RE: Ford Focus RS: Review
Discussion
I wonder who will be first to mention soft plastics.Sounds like it would be a fantastic road car, but I had a feeling it would struggle to knock the likes of the Megane from top place as far as more track orientated cars go.
I was very tempted to get one on order, but ended up ordering a Clio 220 Trophy. I might fall in love with it but I see it as more of a stop-gap between my current Megane 250 and possibly the all new Megane in a couple of years time (or something different entirely, lets see how things go).
I'm sure Ford will sell these out very quickly though!
I was very tempted to get one on order, but ended up ordering a Clio 220 Trophy. I might fall in love with it but I see it as more of a stop-gap between my current Megane 250 and possibly the all new Megane in a couple of years time (or something different entirely, lets see how things go).
I'm sure Ford will sell these out very quickly though!
Terror Factor said:
Good stuff, very interesting car imo, and I'm not much for new stuff generally speaking 
As for the 4wd, how does an EVO do it? they also have a transverse engine, and don't seem to have much problems doing impressive drifts!
http://www.lancerregister.com/faq/G04/g04.htmlAs for the 4wd, how does an EVO do it? they also have a transverse engine, and don't seem to have much problems doing impressive drifts!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_Yaw_Control
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TameRacingDriver said:
That overpriced FWD car that was slower than a remapped ST ?
(I jest, but the point stands).
The same mk11 a friend had and spent a fortune on when put up against " the skip " as he called my old rs2, disappeard in my rear view mirror. He got rid not long after. (I jest, but the point stands).
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As for the 4wd, how does an EVO do it? they also have a transverse engine, and don't seem to have much problems doing impressive drifts!
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They install a trained monkey in the rear seat. When the monkey sees you turning into a corner, he gives a quick yank on the handbrake, tipping the car into the apex. Simples.
(Well, its an ECU rather than a monkey)
As for the 4wd, how does an EVO do it? they also have a transverse engine, and don't seem to have much problems doing impressive drifts!
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They install a trained monkey in the rear seat. When the monkey sees you turning into a corner, he gives a quick yank on the handbrake, tipping the car into the apex. Simples.
(Well, its an ECU rather than a monkey)
anonymous said:
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Because when it boils down to it, it's just a blown four cylinder so in all likelihood sounds like a Henry hoover without. I laughed when I saw that the new Clio RS comes with a "sound generator". That is so so sad. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpZ42A-R_34 Probably the lamest thing I have ever seen. It reminded me of one of those wolf bikes people used to have as kids with a siren and motorbike noises on them.bulldong said:
Because when it boils down to it, it's just a blown four cylinder so in all likelihood sounds like a Henry hoover without. I laughed when I saw that the new Clio RS comes with a "sound generator". That is so so sad. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpZ42A-R_34 Probably the lamest thing I have ever seen. It reminded me of one of those wolf bikes people used to have as kids with a siren and motorbike noises on them.
Is there no way to disable it in the Focus RS I wonder? I know M3 owners have been trying to get theirs turned off. At least with the Clio it's off by default and only on if you want to play around with it (though I agree it's totally ridiculous to begin with).Axionknight said:
Terror Factor said:
Good stuff, very interesting car imo, and I'm not much for new stuff generally speaking
As for the 4wd, how does an EVO do it? they also have a transverse engine, and don't seem to have much problems doing impressive drifts!
http://www.lancerregister.com/faq/G04/g04.htmlAs for the 4wd, how does an EVO do it? they also have a transverse engine, and don't seem to have much problems doing impressive drifts!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_Yaw_Control
Like so.
framerateuk said:
bulldong said:
Because when it boils down to it, it's just a blown four cylinder so in all likelihood sounds like a Henry hoover without. I laughed when I saw that the new Clio RS comes with a "sound generator". That is so so sad. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpZ42A-R_34 Probably the lamest thing I have ever seen. It reminded me of one of those wolf bikes people used to have as kids with a siren and motorbike noises on them.
Is there no way to disable it in the Focus RS I wonder? I know M3 owners have been trying to get theirs turned off. At least with the Clio it's off by default and only on if you want to play around with it (though I agree it's totally ridiculous to begin with).bulldong said:
Because when it boils down to it, it's just a blown four cylinder so in all likelihood sounds like a Henry hoover without. I laughed when I saw that the new Clio RS comes with a "sound generator". That is so so sad. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpZ42A-R_34 Probably the lamest thing I have ever seen. It reminded me of one of those wolf bikes people used to have as kids with a siren and motorbike noises on them.
That is hilarious(ly bad) 
I was wondering when the 1.8% figure would be released. Now technically, a 1.8% increase in rear wheel speed over front wheel speed IS "overspeeding" but it's also only just the sort of difference between a worn tyre and a new one.
Take a look at a typical "slip vs grip" graph for a modern tyre, then move just 1.8% sideways on the slip axis. Er, we are not talking Tokyo Drift here chaps!
If you've got a rwd car, try drifting that with just 1.8% overspeed and see how you get on.......... ;-)
Take a look at a typical "slip vs grip" graph for a modern tyre, then move just 1.8% sideways on the slip axis. Er, we are not talking Tokyo Drift here chaps!
If you've got a rwd car, try drifting that with just 1.8% overspeed and see how you get on.......... ;-)
kambites said:
leglessAlex said:
I know it's a 300bhp, 4WD car that has to conform to all the safety regs, but still, 1600kg! That's a fair amount.
To be fair that's including a driver. It's just over 1500kg wet with no driver which is still an awful lot, but not quite so bad. In this day and age I'd say that's actually pretty good, a sad reflection of the times maybe but oh well.
Baryonyx said:
MajorMantra said:
This might be a very silly question, but with so much trickery required to produce oversteer, wouldn't it have been easier (and not necessarily heavier) just to make this pure RWD? Or does the market just not want that?
I expect the need to make a new longitudinal engine, or find one somewhere else in the GM range and get it to Focus RS spec, would have been an issue. At least by keeping it in the current format, they can keep everything cheap and transverse, and modify the car lightly to drive the back wheels when needed.leglessAlex said:
kambites said:
leglessAlex said:
I know it's a 300bhp, 4WD car that has to conform to all the safety regs, but still, 1600kg! That's a fair amount.
To be fair that's including a driver. It's just over 1500kg wet with no driver which is still an awful lot, but not quite so bad. In this day and age I'd say that's actually pretty good, a sad reflection of the times maybe but oh well.
Focus is actually a fairly sizeable car nowadays, its great grandad the Escort Cosworth was 1300 ish kilos back in 1991, the Focus has more airbags, massively stronger body, bigger brakes, bigger wheels, more gadgets, 2 extra doors, another 125 bhp, fancy torque thingys etc, 200 kilos doesnt seem that bad
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