Tesla Model 3 revealed
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Lord Marylebone said:
Digitalize said:
Mainly because simpletons think by jamming loads of horsepower through 2 wheels will beat 4WD with instant torque and launch control. How any of them genuinely thought they had a chance on that short of a distance baffles me. It's like trying to fight a shark in the ocean.
I agree, but he did slso beat a GTR in that video, so kudos for that 
king big batteryJader1973 said:
Lord Marylebone said:
Digitalize said:
Mainly because simpletons think by jamming loads of horsepower through 2 wheels will beat 4WD with instant torque and launch control. How any of them genuinely thought they had a chance on that short of a distance baffles me. It's like trying to fight a shark in the ocean.
I agree, but he did slso beat a GTR in that video, so kudos for that 
...and as someone else pointed out, the driver says about 2% per run. A supercharger would get the Tesla back to 80% in about 30 minutes.If there is one thing a Tesla is good at, its going to be a drag race. Dual motors, Instant full torque, and precise control. Wait for go....mash foot to the floor....win.
Edited by 98elise on Thursday 27th July 13:17
Lord Marylebone said:
https://youtu.be/ARzujfRiQ3c
Stripped out Tesla P100 with sticky tyres goes street racing and thrashes everyone.
Quite amusing.
Can't argue with that. I can't watch with sound - any idea what they got the weight down to?Stripped out Tesla P100 with sticky tyres goes street racing and thrashes everyone.
Quite amusing.
A Model S being used at Fairford to keep an eye on U-2s taking off...
https://youtu.be/xZ6hwzGs8O0?t=1m54s
https://youtu.be/xZ6hwzGs8O0?t=1m54s
manracer said:
I saw that video a few days ago. Impressive regardless of anything.
I do think the tesla bashing comments are getting very boring now though.
Cant wait to get mine!!
Yes I agree, lets see so far we've hadI do think the tesla bashing comments are getting very boring now though.
Cant wait to get mine!!
1) It will only do 50miles on a full charge which isn't enough to do my daily 500mile round trip which my diesel can do with one tank
2) It takes 20 hours to charge
3) Tesla aren't a real car company
4) I don't like touchscreens
5) I have nowhere to charge it
We've just seen a family saloon from a fledgling car company destroy several purpose built drag cars and people are still whinging, Not forgetting that EV's are in their relative infancy in terms of development time and yet they are already 10 times better than the first attempts at ICE cars. Range and charge times will be a non issue in a few years with a bit more development and the infrastructure will catch up too, I'm guessing people are forgetting a time when there wasn't a petrol station on every busy road. I wonder what people will complain about then?
Don't get me wrong I love a good ICE car as well as the next PH'er but I can also take my Luddite hat off and realise EV's are probably the future of transport so we can either embrace them or be left behind.
I can't see how there is any doubt that EV's are the future for the majority of cars. We Petrolheads might not like it, but our opinion is worthless against the simple fact that EV's will eventually be cheaper, cleaner and offer similar or better performance than what we see most of on the roads.
Nothing and I mean nothing will beat the sound of a proper engine at full chat, but that's about the only downside I see right now.
When Graphene batteries finally make it into production, the game will change. All of a sudden you'll have cars with more range, faster charging (though the limitation will be just how much power you can actually pump in on a domestic supply) and performance that kicks the hell out of a 2.0 diesel econobox.
Nothing and I mean nothing will beat the sound of a proper engine at full chat, but that's about the only downside I see right now.
When Graphene batteries finally make it into production, the game will change. All of a sudden you'll have cars with more range, faster charging (though the limitation will be just how much power you can actually pump in on a domestic supply) and performance that kicks the hell out of a 2.0 diesel econobox.
EV's are the future no doubt.Its very amusing to see how it has degenerated into a Tesla can beat this or that so there...personally I don't care how fast it goes it just isn't sexy ,looks like an ageing jap/Korean saloon and I have yet to see anyone under fifty in one.I can see in a few years lots of fat 50 year old men pulling up at traffic lights on the way to the golf club looking to smoke some 'ice' 'I smoked one of those old GTR's on way ere you know' sounds awesome did you remember to plug her in.Handy if you need to save money I guess but think I'll stick with my V8 for now.
Always highly amusing that people still think there is some amazing battery development just around the corner just because they've been reading about an interesting lab effect that some researcher is bigging up to get sucker money in to pay his mortgage. 99.999% of these never make it to production because they don't scale up or are uneconomic or impractical etc.
There is no prospect of any battery development that is going to rewrite the fundamental laws of physics or provide the shift-change required to make EVs economically viable. ICE cars will always been the sane commercial option.
Yes, we may be forced to use EVs, but it will be expensive and frustrating.
In all likelihood, once politicians finally realise that 'decarbonising' the electricity grid is completely incompatible with 100% EV cars, and that they have been lied to by eco-activists over supposed pollution, goals will change significantly.
National Grid has already looked into this and estimates they'll need another 30GW to meet peak demand.
Demand side management and storage isn't going to help significantly with that.
So you are left needing another 10 Hinkleys, 12 2.5GW CCGT (gas), or 48,000 windmills (10GW of wind can only semi-reliably replace 1-2GW of coventonal peak demand generation because of intermittency etc.)
Obviously this is all pie in the sky and insanely expensive, apart from the gas option - which is not zero carbon.
There is no prospect of any battery development that is going to rewrite the fundamental laws of physics or provide the shift-change required to make EVs economically viable. ICE cars will always been the sane commercial option.
Yes, we may be forced to use EVs, but it will be expensive and frustrating.
In all likelihood, once politicians finally realise that 'decarbonising' the electricity grid is completely incompatible with 100% EV cars, and that they have been lied to by eco-activists over supposed pollution, goals will change significantly.
National Grid has already looked into this and estimates they'll need another 30GW to meet peak demand.
Demand side management and storage isn't going to help significantly with that.
So you are left needing another 10 Hinkleys, 12 2.5GW CCGT (gas), or 48,000 windmills (10GW of wind can only semi-reliably replace 1-2GW of coventonal peak demand generation because of intermittency etc.)
Obviously this is all pie in the sky and insanely expensive, apart from the gas option - which is not zero carbon.
manracer said:
I saw that video a few days ago. Impressive regardless of anything.
I do think the tesla bashing comments are getting very boring now though.
Cant wait to get mine!!
someone whose bought a car they haven't even tested or seen in the flesh, and now worrying they've made a mistake getting narky when people who have say its gopping and cramped! I do think the tesla bashing comments are getting very boring now though.
Cant wait to get mine!!
how odd...!
i dont see why people have any reason to lie about seeing one. do the tesla forums have eyes everywhere?
i have no strong opinion on tesla. i don't want an EV so wouldn't buy one.
if i wanted one id get an i8, as i think the 3 is aesthetically bland if not ugly (i know looks are subjective), the s looks like a mondeo, which is ok, and the x is just a mess. if you dont care about aesthetics im sure there fine.
i dont think theres any hate on this thread just rational points from both sides.
what i would say is tesla is a case of marketing over substance. they have successfully pitched themselves as a must have product in the eyes of a certain type of person. That person isnt a petrol head or a rich person, or a full on lentil hugger, a minority group who get all excited about the launch of a computer perhaps or want to be seen to be doing there bit but not in an overt way.
Farmboy UK said:
Jader1973 said:
And afterwards the GTR owner was able to drive anywhere he wanted, whereas the bloke in the Tesla had to drive home and plug it in for 8 hours, assuming the racing hadn't cooked it.
8 hours? Or 30 minutes on a superchargerDazed and Confused said:
How much would it cost to have that installed? Assuming you have a driveway to put it on.
Doesn't really matter because if you don't have a driveway then you obviously have a bus stop within walking distance. So you won't have to waste a load of money on a private EV as you'll be able to hop on one of the communal ones. DonkeyApple said:
Dazed and Confused said:
How much would it cost to have that installed? Assuming you have a driveway to put it on.
Doesn't really matter because if you don't have a driveway then you obviously have a bus stop within walking distance. So you won't have to waste a load of money on a private EV as you'll be able to hop on one of the communal ones. Dazed and Confused said:
DonkeyApple said:
Dazed and Confused said:
How much would it cost to have that installed? Assuming you have a driveway to put it on.
Doesn't really matter because if you don't have a driveway then you obviously have a bus stop within walking distance. So you won't have to waste a load of money on a private EV as you'll be able to hop on one of the communal ones. Don't know why you think people who use buses are losers.
DonkeyApple said:
Dazed and Confused said:
DonkeyApple said:
Dazed and Confused said:
How much would it cost to have that installed? Assuming you have a driveway to put it on.
Doesn't really matter because if you don't have a driveway then you obviously have a bus stop within walking distance. So you won't have to waste a load of money on a private EV as you'll be able to hop on one of the communal ones. Don't know why you think people who use buses are losers.
I don't think bus users are losers. You seem to. You also seem to think people without driveways don't own cars. Not my fault you made yourself look a bit daft.
Any price on the supercharger install yet?
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