What scam is this guy trying to pull?

What scam is this guy trying to pull?

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RayPike

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413 posts

122 months

Monday 16th May 2016
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Got a call from a buyer who's interested in my car. Lives an hour and a half drive from me, has only seen pictures. My asking price is £7,950 and he's offered £7,800. Says he's been looking for this spec for a while and wants to buy it asap. He then says when he comes to pick it up he can pay cash of £1,000 and the rest will be direct bank transfer, but the finance company he's using want MY details! When enquiring further this turns out to be copy of driving licence, V5 document, god knows what else. I pointed out that I only wanted cleared funds in my account and wanted nothing to do with a finance company that wanted my details. He says he'll check with them and get back to me as it sounded a bit weird to him too.

Is this something that anyone else has heard of or has an inexperienced buyer got the wrong end of the stick from a misheard conversation with a finance company do you think?

R8Steve

4,150 posts

175 months

Monday 16th May 2016
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You're going to end up paying for your own car, the loan will be in your name.


RayPike

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413 posts

122 months

Monday 16th May 2016
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R8Steve said:
You're going to end up paying for your own car, the loan will be in your name.
Quality. Like that one. Without a signature? I suppose banks do accept "electronic signatures" these days so you may be right.

MDMA .

8,884 posts

101 months

Monday 16th May 2016
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Just tell him to have his loan paid into his account, withdraw when cleared and turn up with cash. That or he looks at it, leaves a deposit, payment before collection. You withdraw the cash and put into another account.

castroses

247 posts

98 months

Monday 16th May 2016
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He can easily copy your signature from your driving licence after you send him a copy..........

10penceparalyzed

229 posts

124 months

Monday 16th May 2016
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996TT02

3,308 posts

140 months

Monday 16th May 2016
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RayPike said:
...it sounded a bit weird to him too.
...got the wrong end of the stick from a misheard conversation with a finance company do you think?
Sounds likely.

You spoke to him, generally you can tell if someone is straight or not. The gullible are excused, however.

Just wait to see how it pans out?

RayPike

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413 posts

122 months

Monday 16th May 2016
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MDMA . said:
Just tell him to have his loan paid into his account, withdraw when cleared and turn up with cash. That or he looks at it, leaves a deposit, payment before collection. You withdraw the cash and put into another account.
I told him I wasn't interested in how he got the finance sorted but I wanted nothing to do with his finance company, just wanted cleared funds in my account. As he knows my name and, should we agree a deal, my address, and he'll get my bank details to arrange the transfer... he kind of already has the details he needs if he's going to pull the scam mentioned in the first reply, surely?

shake n bake

2,221 posts

207 months

Monday 16th May 2016
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A big fat fk off and move on to the next is your best line here. Don't be roped in.

UK345

441 posts

158 months

Monday 16th May 2016
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Cash only sale take it or leave it

RayPike

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413 posts

122 months

Monday 16th May 2016
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10penceparalyzed said:
Sounds very similar. So could actually be legit. I'll ask him the name of the company and see what he says. Ta.

MDMA .

8,884 posts

101 months

Monday 16th May 2016
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UK345 said:
Cash only sale take it or leave it
This. If he wants to finance it, tell him to go to a dealer.


R8Steve

4,150 posts

175 months

Monday 16th May 2016
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RayPike said:
R8Steve said:
You're going to end up paying for your own car, the loan will be in your name.
Quality. Like that one. Without a signature? I suppose banks do accept "electronic signatures" these days so you may be right.
It's a very common fraud at the moment, some door to door solar panel types have been doing it at well.

TheLuke

2,218 posts

141 months

Monday 16th May 2016
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Was just about to bring up Zuto.


They offer finance on private sales.


shake n bake

2,221 posts

207 months

Monday 16th May 2016
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I'd like to be proven wrong but I'd be amazed if a finance company will fund a private sale, I can't see how they'd tie themselves in to the legalities of funding a purchase then potentially finding out its a wrongen ( not saying your car is o.p) without a potential line of cover for them.
Please report back though with the result. I still say you are in for a world of hurt and bother with this, cut it loose.

RayPike

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413 posts

122 months

Monday 16th May 2016
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I checked out the zuto website and it seems fairly legit so if it is them, it seems worth pursuing. Apparently I send proof of ownership directly to them, the buyer doesn't see it fwiw.

vikingaero

10,303 posts

169 months

Monday 16th May 2016
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Zuto as above. Colleague used them. No problems other than perception.

RayPike

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413 posts

122 months

Tuesday 17th May 2016
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It is Zuto apparently. We'll see how it goes then...

CraigyMc

16,387 posts

236 months

Tuesday 17th May 2016
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RayPike said:
It is Zuto apparently. We'll see how it goes then...
Even if Zuto *is* a legit company, I'd still not do it.

What do Zuto need your details for, how well protected are your details, and how do you benefit?
Have a read of https://www.zuto.com/privacy/ and think about it.

Ren Esis

419 posts

138 months

Tuesday 17th May 2016
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Zuto = CarLoans4u

Not sure if it is a re branding/takeover/etc but going to the CL4U website redirects to Zuto.