RE: Honda NSX: Review
Discussion
I am genuinely disappointed by this "Its just a Honda" position.
I thought this place was populated by intelligent people with an appreciation of engineering, design and creativity?
The only person who would care about the "brand" and dismiss the NSX because it " isn't a Ferrari" frankly should not be here.
I thought this place was populated by intelligent people with an appreciation of engineering, design and creativity?
The only person who would care about the "brand" and dismiss the NSX because it " isn't a Ferrari" frankly should not be here.
Derek Chevalier said:
Twoshoe said:
Derek Chevalier said:
Read his Autocar road test in 2002 of NSX vs 996 - after beating the GT-R he said NSX came very close to beating NSX.
(You may want to edit your comment!)
I love just about everything with the new NSX, but the weight. Like the GTR, why does it have to be so heavy?
How much does a 918 weigh, 1650-1700kg? OK, the NSX doesn't seem so bad really, but I do hope these are the early days of this hybrid supercar trend and that the weights will come down when the technology moves on.
stew-S160 said:
I do hope these are the early days of this hybrid supercar trend and that the weights will come down when the technology moves on.
I'm not a physicist but I imagine that in order to store a sufficient amount of electrical energy you will always need a certain amount of "mass" to keep it in. Similarly charging times are limited by just how much electricity you can get down a piece of wire. Then there's the safety aspect of keeping large amounts of electricity under control in an accident - which means yet more mass.Derek Chevalier said:
I'd really love them to do a junior LFA.
they did:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpMAfsSk7jM
pardonmyenglish said:
Derek Chevalier said:
I'd really love them to do a junior LFA.
they did:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpMAfsSk7jM
KimJongHealthy said:
Hybrid technology is there just for the sake of it as it does no significant range on the EV alone. It's a gimmick to lower CO2 figures for Californian authorities.
Looks like a squashed R8 with some extra vents, certainly nothing special there.
Just like the previous generation people who want it can't afford it and those who have enough spare money would rather get a Porsche or McLaren not to be seen in a Honda. Or spend this much on a heavy like hell track toy. Brake steering means it will go through pads like crazy when raced.
Will it become a cult classic like the previous NSX? Unlikely, 20 years from now all those EV gimmick will fall apart while the first gen is a simple car you just have to service and enjoy. Good luck finding a fully working new NSX in 2040.
And it's not even much faster than a GTR for third of the price, while the old NSX was cheaper and beat many supercars. Just like the classic Impreza was a huge seller, beating Porsches for a fraction of the cost while new one is a heavy cow getting kicked by a Golf, so sales are nowhere close to those in the 1990s.
Here, Honda, have a smiley sticker for trying.
What a positive chap you seem to be!Looks like a squashed R8 with some extra vents, certainly nothing special there.
Just like the previous generation people who want it can't afford it and those who have enough spare money would rather get a Porsche or McLaren not to be seen in a Honda. Or spend this much on a heavy like hell track toy. Brake steering means it will go through pads like crazy when raced.
Will it become a cult classic like the previous NSX? Unlikely, 20 years from now all those EV gimmick will fall apart while the first gen is a simple car you just have to service and enjoy. Good luck finding a fully working new NSX in 2040.
And it's not even much faster than a GTR for third of the price, while the old NSX was cheaper and beat many supercars. Just like the classic Impreza was a huge seller, beating Porsches for a fraction of the cost while new one is a heavy cow getting kicked by a Golf, so sales are nowhere close to those in the 1990s.
Here, Honda, have a smiley sticker for trying.
KimJongHealthy said:
Hybrid technology is there just for the sake of it as it does no significant range on the EV alone. It's a gimmick to lower CO2 figures for Californian authorities.
Looks like a squashed R8 with some extra vents, certainly nothing special there.
Just like the previous generation people who want it can't afford it and those who have enough spare money would rather get a Porsche or McLaren not to be seen in a Honda. Or spend this much on a heavy like hell track toy. Brake steering means it will go through pads like crazy when raced.
Will it become a cult classic like the previous NSX? Unlikely, 20 years from now all those EV gimmick will fall apart while the first gen is a simple car you just have to service and enjoy. Good luck finding a fully working new NSX in 2040.
And it's not even much faster than a GTR for third of the price, while the old NSX was cheaper and beat many supercars. Just like the classic Impreza was a huge seller, beating Porsches for a fraction of the cost while new one is a heavy cow getting kicked by a Golf, so sales are nowhere close to those in the 1990s.
Here, Honda, have a smiley sticker for trying.
+1Looks like a squashed R8 with some extra vents, certainly nothing special there.
Just like the previous generation people who want it can't afford it and those who have enough spare money would rather get a Porsche or McLaren not to be seen in a Honda. Or spend this much on a heavy like hell track toy. Brake steering means it will go through pads like crazy when raced.
Will it become a cult classic like the previous NSX? Unlikely, 20 years from now all those EV gimmick will fall apart while the first gen is a simple car you just have to service and enjoy. Good luck finding a fully working new NSX in 2040.
And it's not even much faster than a GTR for third of the price, while the old NSX was cheaper and beat many supercars. Just like the classic Impreza was a huge seller, beating Porsches for a fraction of the cost while new one is a heavy cow getting kicked by a Golf, so sales are nowhere close to those in the 1990s.
Here, Honda, have a smiley sticker for trying.
Edited by KimJongHealthy on Sunday 17th July 09:09
KimJongHealthy said:
Hybrid technology is there just for the sake of it as it does no significant range on the EV alone. It's a gimmick to lower CO2 figures for Californian authorities.
Looks like a squashed R8 with some extra vents, certainly nothing special there.
Just like the previous generation people who want it can't afford it and those who have enough spare money would rather get a Porsche or McLaren not to be seen in a Honda. Or spend this much on a heavy like hell track toy. Brake steering means it will go through pads like crazy when raced.
Will it become a cult classic like the previous NSX? Unlikely, 20 years from now all those EV gimmick will fall apart while the first gen is a simple car you just have to service and enjoy. Good luck finding a fully working new NSX in 2040.
And it's not even much faster than a GTR for third of the price, while the old NSX was cheaper and beat many supercars. Just like the classic Impreza was a huge seller, beating Porsches for a fraction of the cost while new one is a heavy cow getting kicked by a Golf, so sales are nowhere close to those in the 1990s.
Here, Honda, have a smiley sticker for trying.
Did you read the article before posting that?Looks like a squashed R8 with some extra vents, certainly nothing special there.
Just like the previous generation people who want it can't afford it and those who have enough spare money would rather get a Porsche or McLaren not to be seen in a Honda. Or spend this much on a heavy like hell track toy. Brake steering means it will go through pads like crazy when raced.
Will it become a cult classic like the previous NSX? Unlikely, 20 years from now all those EV gimmick will fall apart while the first gen is a simple car you just have to service and enjoy. Good luck finding a fully working new NSX in 2040.
And it's not even much faster than a GTR for third of the price, while the old NSX was cheaper and beat many supercars. Just like the classic Impreza was a huge seller, beating Porsches for a fraction of the cost while new one is a heavy cow getting kicked by a Golf, so sales are nowhere close to those in the 1990s.
Here, Honda, have a smiley sticker for trying.
Edited by KimJongHealthy on Sunday 17th July 09:09
The hybrid tech gives it 4wd with torque vectoring and instant torque to fill in any turbo lag.
There is no mention of the brake steering you claim will eat pads on track.
And if you want to rubbish it for not beating a GTR that's cheaper, you can add most Porsches to your "rubbish car" list too.
Lightly used examples of these are now available for ~£90k.
That's some depreciation.
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
That's some depreciation.
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
Not yet been out in one, but the driving position is very good and the seat, despite looking very different, feels very similar to the original NSX (this is a good thing). Interior may be a little 'safe' vs some competitiors, but the quality is high.
Those that I know own one rate it very highly indeed...I suspect the market is doing what it did 30 years ago, and responding badly to a supercar with a shopping-car badge on the nose. What's worse this time around is that the market is crowded with genuinely good competition...so those buyers just wanting to flash-the-cash have plenty of choice as to how they go all Loadsamoney at those around them.
Those that I know own one rate it very highly indeed...I suspect the market is doing what it did 30 years ago, and responding badly to a supercar with a shopping-car badge on the nose. What's worse this time around is that the market is crowded with genuinely good competition...so those buyers just wanting to flash-the-cash have plenty of choice as to how they go all Loadsamoney at those around them.
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