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t 964 is worth £50k and an even worse E28 M5 is knocking on the same price, a 850CSi is worth every penny of the asking £37k if it checks out to be a good oneE24man said:
I'll have to check some old e-mails but I think I was offered this car about 4 years ago for c£9,500.
Well I think it's quite clear that you missed a bargain!Looking at both the cost and the car objectively, as a benchmark what would be the 996 equivalent? A Turbo maybe? And they're £50k +
As for other 'modern' V12 coupe /2+2s what are available and how many with three pedals?
Aston Martin Vanquish(?) - Automated manual? Lots more money but significantly newer.
SL600 - Auto only
XJ-S - yes but if you want to go for a drive ideally you plan to arrive at your destination.
412i - yes but possibly twice the BMW cost and potentially see above.
Espada / any Lambo - as above and you're getting into older cars.
So (any other options I've missed?) it's clearly within a fairly small pool of cars and it has seats like a 928 GTS so all things considered where an unreliable E28 Turbo is £87k it looks like great value.
Obviously it's not and as E24 Man states it, or one very similar, was a fraction of the cost not many summers ago but as with the market as it is, I think that it should be a comparable cost to comparable cars which as I have comprehensively shown there, er, aren't any...
I was just playing Devil's Advocate really.
Don't know Astons much. I had a search but could only find a couple of newish ones.
But now you memtion it, just had a better look, the DB7? Hasn't someone on here got one? and didn't JC have one too.
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Don't know Astons much. I had a search but could only find a couple of newish ones.
But now you memtion it, just had a better look, the DB7? Hasn't someone on here got one? and didn't JC have one too.
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Edited by Crook on Wednesday 8th August 09:59
DB7 V12 Vantage.
I've got a massive itch for a full fat Range Rover L322. Having watched the Harry's garage vid, and been in Harry's, it seems the 3.6 TDV8 is the model to go for.
Found this one that looks like an absolute peach
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
Thoughts?
Found this one that looks like an absolute peach
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
Thoughts?
barchetta_boy said:
NomduJour said:
From experience, the 4.4 TDV8 is faster, more refined, more economical.
Yeah, a fair chunk more money as well and Harry reckons the 3.6 has more go from low down as twin turbo and the the 4.4 is sequential, 1 blower for low down, one for up top. I'd heartily recommend the L322. We had a high mileage 4.2 Supercharged for a couple of years and it was an absolute peach.
Felt brand new even at 8yrs old and 100,000 miles plus. The only possible negative was the audio and infotainment system was very definitely 'of the period'. The newer model you posted has the newer system which I am sure is quite a leap forward over ours.
Had the dilemma of a used family car recently and ended up with a 110 XS but not after coming close to a very tidy TDV8. We just wanted to try the Defender and so far it's been a joy - even when the rain leaks through the door frame onto your right knee during right-handers in a mild rain storm.
Felt brand new even at 8yrs old and 100,000 miles plus. The only possible negative was the audio and infotainment system was very definitely 'of the period'. The newer model you posted has the newer system which I am sure is quite a leap forward over ours.
Had the dilemma of a used family car recently and ended up with a 110 XS but not after coming close to a very tidy TDV8. We just wanted to try the Defender and so far it's been a joy - even when the rain leaks through the door frame onto your right knee during right-handers in a mild rain storm.
barchetta_boy said:
Yeah, a fair chunk more money as well and Harry reckons the 3.6 has more go from low down as twin turbo and the the 4.4 is sequential, 1 blower for low down, one for up top.
No way the 3.6 has more low-down go, I think that may be perception due to fewer gears in the 3.6. Regarding the 850CSi- £37k is really not a ridiculous price considering the rarity of an actual BMW Motorsport AG built 850CSi with a manual gearbox. It might not be a great car and there are better alternatives at the price, but that hasn't necessarily stopped values appreciating in other cars. It will also more than likely be a maintenance disaster but such is life with these types of cars. The advert is crap though.
Regarding the E6x V10 cars- The prices on a manual ones aren't absolutely terrible and would certainly be the one to have regardless of M5 or M6, but they haven't really gone anywhere upwards for a number of reasons, chiefly the cost of ownership. They're unreliable and very expensive to fix, especially when coupled with the awful SMG gearbox. There are also quite a lot of them out there and they're not really a driving classic- a bit big and heavy.
Regarding the E6x V10 cars- The prices on a manual ones aren't absolutely terrible and would certainly be the one to have regardless of M5 or M6, but they haven't really gone anywhere upwards for a number of reasons, chiefly the cost of ownership. They're unreliable and very expensive to fix, especially when coupled with the awful SMG gearbox. There are also quite a lot of them out there and they're not really a driving classic- a bit big and heavy.
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