RE: Scotland coast-to-coast in a G-Wagen
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Have just completed a 400 mile round trip in a 1993 SWB 463 G Wagon, 300 GE and just can't believe how solid it is. The build quality is quite amazing and at 23 years old and 145k, equivalent Range Rovers and the like just wouldn't be in the same condition.
Wonderful experience and love the earlier 460 / 463 models. No footballers or celebs in these!!
Wonderful experience and love the earlier 460 / 463 models. No footballers or celebs in these!!
Alan_I_W said:
Nick Grimshaw was the t
t the flipped the G Wagen. He swerved for something and flipped it on someones Golf. The only way to describe him is "Millennial Douche"
The Grim DJ we are paying wages to through our license fee ? Flipping a G requires a special skill. What a tt the flipped the G Wagen. He swerved for something and flipped it on someones Golf. The only way to describe him is "Millennial Douche"t.Panayiotis said:
With no modifications drove from Melbourne up to fraser island in queensland a couple of years ago, pulled 4 other trucks out of the sand all the time enjoying the comforts of the vehicle. Amazingly capable, but unfortunately massively underutilised by most owners.
Pfft. Might as well have been Tesco's car park...THIS is proper G territory...
Over 550k miles (nearly 900k km), 150k miles/250k km of that off-road, 26 years, 215 countries...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/special/2014/newsspec_87...
http://www.autoblog.com/2014/10/16/german-man-driv...
As a G AMG owner I can confirm nothing compares. They are amazing cars, solidly built, sound amazing at idle and better at full throttle. The build quality unlike anything else this side of a Bentley. We use ours daily for everything and it swallows everything we put inside, including recently a bookcase! Ours also has the 9 seat option so we can load up the car with people and avoid paying the congestion charge too!
The only problem is the juice. Its ridiculous on fuel consumption. But then the depreciation is near zero so man maths allows me to offset that!
The only problem is the juice. Its ridiculous on fuel consumption. But then the depreciation is near zero so man maths allows me to offset that!
I rode in a G-Wagen today for the first time. A 2013 G350 diesel, much like these ones. I'm a sceptic; I'm certainly not a fan of the bling; and I lament that they have become the latest thing. However, I have to admit that the build quality is unlike anything I have ever come across in a car. I think the price is probably fair. They really do make a new Range Rover feel very cheap and nasty; heck, they make a new S-Class feel cheap and nasty.
I'll have mine in light ivory, without the tinted glass, without the chrome grille and without the big wheels, thank you.
I'll have mine in light ivory, without the tinted glass, without the chrome grille and without the big wheels, thank you.
r129sl said:
I rode in a G-Wagen today for the first time. A 2013 G350 diesel, much like these ones. I'm a sceptic; I'm certainly not a fan of the bling; and I lament that they have become the latest thing. However, I have to admit that the build quality is unlike anything I have ever come across in a car. I think the price is probably fair. They really do make a new Range Rover feel very cheap and nasty; heck, they make a new S-Class feel cheap and nasty.
I'll have mine in light ivory, without the tinted glass, without the chrome grille and without the big wheels, thank you.
My friend has the G63 and I don't think the interior is as nice as my S Class, however the G Wagen feels handbuilt and bespoke like nothing I've ever been in.I'll have mine in light ivory, without the tinted glass, without the chrome grille and without the big wheels, thank you.
My Dad had a few G-Wagens when I was young.
They weren't particularly good looking or well known, but he always had trouble with Range Rovers (and later a discovery) so kept reverting to G-Wagens because they were so dependable.
He tried the 280GE but it was way too thirsty.
He had a red Y-reg 5 door, a white A-reg 3 door and D-reg 3 door, all 300 GDs. They were so slow, lucky if I got it up to 80.
My school mates thought they there S***!
When I passed my test at 17 I used the D-Reg one to go to college, and it was seen as quite cool by then, the black and white tartan interior wasn't very cool though, bit weird actually.
My 1986 Glass Guide says the 1984 (A-reg) version was £16,000, so around £35,000 today, so they certainly have gone up in cost, but then again, no different to a Range Rover.
They weren't particularly good looking or well known, but he always had trouble with Range Rovers (and later a discovery) so kept reverting to G-Wagens because they were so dependable.
He tried the 280GE but it was way too thirsty.
He had a red Y-reg 5 door, a white A-reg 3 door and D-reg 3 door, all 300 GDs. They were so slow, lucky if I got it up to 80.
My school mates thought they there S***!
When I passed my test at 17 I used the D-Reg one to go to college, and it was seen as quite cool by then, the black and white tartan interior wasn't very cool though, bit weird actually.
My 1986 Glass Guide says the 1984 (A-reg) version was £16,000, so around £35,000 today, so they certainly have gone up in cost, but then again, no different to a Range Rover.
Land Rover missed a massive opportunity with their Defender model in my opinion. They could have taken the Mercedes approach, keep it in production but introduce more and more insane engine options (5.0 SC V8 for instance) and high levels of interior luxury and sell it for £80k upwards if they marketed it properly in Hollywood etc.
To reply to a few posts:
There were a couple of GLS and a GLE on the same trip and they all coped very well running on mud tyres and with the off-road pack fitted. The G-Class was always much more suited and in its element, but then that's to be expected.
As for the price of the G, it's basic is £88,800 for the G350 and options took the one I drove to £104,000. I was very sceptical before driving the car, but I've now got a big liking for them and can see why people buy them (though many will never use them as intended, which is a shame). Mercedes only makes 15 G-Class a day and sell about 180 new per annum in the UK - 60 percent are AMGs.
Better than a Land Rover Defender? Off-road they would be as capable as each other, but on-road the Merc is far more refined and the build quality is a world apart from the Defender's.
There were a couple of GLS and a GLE on the same trip and they all coped very well running on mud tyres and with the off-road pack fitted. The G-Class was always much more suited and in its element, but then that's to be expected.
As for the price of the G, it's basic is £88,800 for the G350 and options took the one I drove to £104,000. I was very sceptical before driving the car, but I've now got a big liking for them and can see why people buy them (though many will never use them as intended, which is a shame). Mercedes only makes 15 G-Class a day and sell about 180 new per annum in the UK - 60 percent are AMGs.
Better than a Land Rover Defender? Off-road they would be as capable as each other, but on-road the Merc is far more refined and the build quality is a world apart from the Defender's.
I'm afraid to say that to me, this story read like a Mercedes press release.
I know that the industry works by providing 'opportunities' for the press to experience their product, but was there nothing you didn't like? It really never slipped a wheel the whole weekend? Even in a bog?
Am I jealous that you got a weekend away to play offroad - yes, but you could do us the courtesy of being balanced in your 'reporting'. Unfortunately these sorts of stories and the press release re-hash seem to have become become the bedrock of PH since Haymarket took over. I think I'll resign myself to hiding in the Homes & DIY sub-forum (which is still excellent) and going to Jalopnik and Retro Rides for automotive inspiration.
I know that the industry works by providing 'opportunities' for the press to experience their product, but was there nothing you didn't like? It really never slipped a wheel the whole weekend? Even in a bog?
Am I jealous that you got a weekend away to play offroad - yes, but you could do us the courtesy of being balanced in your 'reporting'. Unfortunately these sorts of stories and the press release re-hash seem to have become become the bedrock of PH since Haymarket took over. I think I'll resign myself to hiding in the Homes & DIY sub-forum (which is still excellent) and going to Jalopnik and Retro Rides for automotive inspiration.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3959268/Cu...
Rather poor G rant from Mr Letts.
Actually they aren't that big in real life, just high.
Rather poor G rant from Mr Letts.
Actually they aren't that big in real life, just high.
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