Best smoker barges 1-5 large [vol11]

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Rod200SX

8,087 posts

176 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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Not picked it up yet but in the process of purchasing a facelift rover 75 Connoisseur SE for the pricely sum of £180.

Can't wait! hehe

r129sl

9,518 posts

203 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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The £180 Rover sounds right up my street, with two of my three incapacitated and a sudden shortage of ready funds, I could do with some banger motoring.

This has a minimalist appeal:

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C806590




And I am presently semi-obsessed with this curiously specified but by no means cheap 260 E:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/332180958526?_trksid=p20...



I am, of course, partial to a custard cream.

r129sl

9,518 posts

203 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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Krikkit said:
SpeckledJim said:
SL500 vs 928 - has anyone looked at the torque curves?

If the Mercedes is more muscular all the way up to peak power, then that would account for the similarity in pace given the disparity in mass.
Good point, standard 928 should be the low trace on this (it's a before and after mod):
|https://thumbsnap.com/zz7mdSsW[/url]

And below the M119 and M113 engines:
|https://thumbsnap.com/hBcW8EEI[/url]

Both are over 400Nm from 2500RPM, right up to peak power. The Mercedes has a little more, around 10% by eye.

Edited by Krikkit on Monday 24th April 11:20
The data on that website are extraordinarily full. The m113 engine's outputs look quite impressive when plotted on the same axes:


Krikkit

26,527 posts

181 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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Sorry, realised my post is a little ambiguous! I had originally grabbed a Merc-issued plot of the m119 and m113 together, then stumbled across that site and used that instead.

Annoyingly they don't use the same axes so not easily comparable, and lots of non-US models are missing.

W00DY

15,491 posts

226 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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MorganP104 said:
TheLordJohn said:
Krikkit said:
Quite like this 528 that's cropped up, modest colour scheme but good spec to my eye with Style 32's, auto wipers, electric seats and double glazing.

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

Seems to be hankering after a maison de palme feel as well. smile
Hats off to Dan for taking the time to write an excellent advert.
Looks great VFM. The 2.8 is plenty quick enough, too.
Agreed. It is a well-written advert. For a lovely motor. Which makes me finding the following typo funny all the more cruel...

Car advert by Dan said:
... the air conditioning has recently stopped performing as it ought to (a regal didn’t fix it, although it seems to hold pressure, more investigation is needed).
Reading that, I was picturing a 1970s car mechanic with a fag on the go, giving the compressor a whack with a manual adjusting tool. hehe
Whoops.


It really is a fantastic car.

Whilst on the subject of the air-con, I took it to Kwik Fit (since they don't charge if the re-gas doesn't work) at the weekend and they had the car two hours and took it for a spin "because sometimes good blast helps". It didn't.

BigBen

11,641 posts

230 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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W00DY said:
Whilst on the subject of the air-con, I took it to Kwik Fit (since they don't charge if the re-gas doesn't work)
I should re-iterate that on Merc's they can't reset the air con error so even if the regas works they think it hasn't. One reset on STAR later and a free re-gas, guilt free because Kwik Fit.

BorniteIdentity

1,055 posts

130 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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flustered said:
I acknowledge that with the flurry of admirable barge acquisitions, this post may be slightly lacklustre but I will persevere and share my tale of woe. The high idle on my 190e persisted: it flummoxed one garage and another diagnosed a fuelling issue but did not have an O2 machine. So I stewed on it and continued to be embarrassed in slow moving traffic as the car happily thrummed away at 1200rpm.

Until, on Good Friday, driving along a very narrow country lane, the throttle cable decided it was due a break for the bank holiday. Cue a good deal of grunting and swearing until such time as I could use a shoelace to close the throttle, and limp to a layby.



Happily, a family member lent me his W220 S-class (which is a very thread courtesy car). I had my local Merc specialist look at it on Saturday. He rang me three hours later: he fixed the throttle, adjusted the fuelling, and charged me a very satisfying £25. If he wasn’t throwing a kebab in his face when I went to collect it, I could have kissed him. Back in barge.

Long story short: I can happily recommend a Merc specialist in South London/Surrey.
Gah. Again, I feel the need to apologise for this. I can, categorically, say that the problems you've experienced were not noticed by me. I was an absolute obsessive about getting things right with it. Sorry.

FWIW - you've just made my heart pang to see it again. Genuinely, I loved that car. Nothing that's come along since has felt the same - and thus they've all gone. In a sad turn of events, I bought that 190e on the day of my sister's wedding. My auntie died very suddenly last week at the age of 47, and that day was the last time I saw her.

Anyway - I'm trying a borderline thread Volvo™ in the next week or so which I expect to disappoint further, at which stage I hope to buy an absolute keeper of a 190.

Please keep me up to date with it.

FredClogs

14,041 posts

161 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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Lovely looking Daimler V8 LWB (sorry no photo on phone)

http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/1997-R-DAIMLER-V8-4-0-LWB-...

I'm sure they come cheaper but its in budget and looks very shiny.

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

228 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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2003 530i SE. Looks like it's been hanging around since November and is keenly priced?

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...


Vaud

50,482 posts

155 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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funkyrobot said:
2003 530i SE. Looks like it's been hanging around since November and is keenly priced?
Because 99,000 miles isn't at all suspicious... wink

Vaud

50,482 posts

155 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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anonymous said:
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Don't get me wrong, it's smart and a nice engine, buy on condition, etc... just the cynic in me wink

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

228 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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Vaud said:
anonymous said:
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Don't get me wrong, it's smart and a nice engine, buy on condition, etc... just the cynic in me wink
MOT history shows 20k plus for the last few years. Wonder if it has done more?

https://cazana.com/uk/car/LB53HHL

It's at a dealer about half an hour from me so may be worth a look. It looks like it has been sat around on the forecourt since November last year though.

Edited by funkyrobot on Monday 24th April 22:34

Patrick Bateman

12,183 posts

174 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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As much of a bargain as early e60's no doubt are I still fine the interior really off putting on the early ones. Drab blacks and leather that doesn't seem to wear particularly well doesn't help.

flustered

18 posts

113 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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BorniteIdentity said:
Gah. Again, I feel the need to apologise for this. I can, categorically, say that the problems you've experienced were not noticed by me. I was an absolute obsessive about getting things right with it. Sorry.

FWIW - you've just made my heart pang to see it again. Genuinely, I loved that car. Nothing that's come along since has felt the same - and thus they've all gone. In a sad turn of events, I bought that 190e on the day of my sister's wedding. My auntie died very suddenly last week at the age of 47, and that day was the last time I saw her.

Anyway - I'm trying a borderline thread Volvo™ in the next week or so which I expect to disappoint further, at which stage I hope to buy an absolute keeper of a 190.

Please keep me up to date with it.
Please don't apologise. With the depth of receipts from your period of ownership, you cannot be accused of neglect. Further than that, it's a 24 year old, 158000 mile car. If I wanted to avoid all hassles I certainly wouldn't have bought an old MB. I would probably get the bus or something equally horrible.

Very strange and fortuitous circumstances:
As of about three hours after my post, I may be moving out of the country for a year or so from June/July. I've considered mothballing the car and storing it but I don't think that would be right - and especially considering your continuing love for the car. I'd be happy to honour your first dibs and chat to you about having the car back.

I'm genuinely very sorry to hear of your loss there, and at such a young age. It does illustrate that despite all of the frustrations, cost, and heartache, a car you're attached to is an anchor point for memories and can typify an era of your life or a place in time.

Krikkit

26,527 posts

181 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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If there's an example needed of why this thread is great, bingo.


bob-lad

2,212 posts

105 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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CharlesdeGaulle said:
0a said:
I have no doubt you will do ok out of this - normal tyres alone will add a few £k!
I just hope that replacement tyres in old sizes don't cost me a few £k! Actually, I rather suspect that tyres will be the least of my expenditure worries, and the white walls will have to go.
Excellent barging. ISTR that the whitewall is on one side of the tyre only.

A quick flip should see the nasty whites gone smile


bob-lad

2,212 posts

105 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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W00DY said:
Don't think I could actually buy a 75 though. At least not this side of 40 and as for it being easier to live with than a Jag, I don't really understand. Sure a Jag would be thirsty and rather long and low, but parts are easy and £800 belt changes are not a thing.
I'm the other side of 40 and I couldn't buy one either. Perhaps you need to nudge that barrier to 50 or 60 smile

Also, you'd be left with an old Rover, rather than a Jaaag.

A P5B would be a different proposition entirely smile

Edited by bob-lad on Tuesday 25th April 12:09

gowmonster

2,471 posts

167 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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13 year old BMW with 99k miles, and a 3.0 straight six, seems ok priced to me, would like it lower obviously.

Scottsz

1,113 posts

133 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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Taken shortly after the Volvos first clean in several thousand miles. It just keeps wallowing on although will need some bits doing soon.

Edited by Scottsz on Tuesday 25th April 12:51

Rod200SX

8,087 posts

176 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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bob-lad said:
W00DY said:
Don't think I could actually buy a 75 though. At least not this side of 40 and as for it being easier to live with than a Jag, I don't really understand. Sure a Jag would be thirsty and rather long and low, but parts are easy and £800 belt changes are not a thing.
I'm the other side of 40 and I couldn't buy one either. Perhaps you need to nudge that barrier to 50 or 60 smile

Also, you'd be left with an old Rover, rather than a Jaaag.

A P5B would be a different proposition entirely smile

Edited by bob-lad on Tuesday 25th April 12:09
I'm 24 and I've just bought a 75, uh oh.

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