Best smoker barges 1-5 large [vol11]

Best smoker barges 1-5 large [vol11]

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SilverSixer

8,202 posts

151 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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idiotgap said:
I managed to lock my keys in the boot of our S211 on the first night of our holiday. Happily all sorted out now.
Eep. For the benefit of other S211 owners who would like to avoid similar, how does one go about locking the keys in the boot?

My S211 related holiday woe in the last few weeks was a buggered airsrping (inflate a bit, deflate a bit, rinse and repeat) at the rear whilst travelling through France, with 4 people, 4 bikes and full boot of luggage. Could not find an indie garage with Star, all main dealers were booked up for over two weeks, so I had to risk it and drive it home wonky (600 miles). Happily the compressor seems to have managed and the spring has now been replaced at my local indie, £522 fitted. Sigh. 2005 (05) E320 CDI S211, 121k miles.

bristolracer

5,535 posts

149 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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r129sl said:
Krikkit said:
Apologies for diverting away from beautiful Merc excellence, can I call upon the beards about the Jag S-type? Tragic looks aside I seem to recall them being a reasonable steer. Looking at a V6 which is cheap locally as a commuter smoker.
I drove some S-Types back-to-back against XJ8s and an XJR at some Jaguar track day at Croft Circuit, decades ago. The S-Type was a thousand times better to drive than the XJ.

Of course, personally I'd prefer a XJ
Edited by r129sl on Thursday 27th July 11:58
They are silly cheap now.
Many are out of thread budget and into shed territory now.

I have a love hate relationship with mine, its not a drivers car,its a bit 'middle aged' too, but it has such a good ride,if you want a wafty smooth auto ride and glide then they are great. Parts are not too bad either. Mines a 2.5 and does about 27 av mpg,I believe the 3 litre does similar.
Plenty around so get one with some toys. People rate the diesels but like any modern diesel,broken bits will hurt your pocket.
The XJ is a better looking car,its rarer too.Its also huge!
I did test one when i bought my S, and when i see one now i still think maybe I should have held out for an XJ. Maybe next time.
I was looking at my S earlier and thinking that its growing on me, I was never sure about the looks, but now when I see all the other pointy square cars out there,i kind of like the jelly mould.
Check for rust, it can be hidden, the cills are covered with a plastic trim panel so look carefully. Suspension can also be tired.
You should be able to find a really good one for the price of some of the rusty 'hewn from granite' mercs elsewhere in this thread.

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

253 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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SilverSixer said:
idiotgap said:
I managed to lock my keys in the boot of our S211 on the first night of our holiday. Happily all sorted out now.
Eep. For the benefit of other S211 owners who would like to avoid similar, how does one go about locking the keys in the boot?
I'll be scanning straight past the answer to that.

I have found that not knowing how to do something gives you a flying start in not doing it..


Don1

15,939 posts

208 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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SpeckledJim said:
Don1 said:
Well, just managed to creep in at the bottom end of the thread title with this old hector. The previous owner was called 'Eric', a fitting tribute to the expected market of this car!

Currently filthy on the inside, a new stereo will be required, and I'm hoping to fill it up once a month for a motorway commute.
Good early spec. Nice wheels. Good choice!
So, a quick refresh inside (outside is horrible), putting over a third of the value of the car in as a stereo (DAB, phone, handsfree etc), it's just up for a quick oil change, air con re-gas and a once over, ready to start the new job. smile

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

253 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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Don1 said:
So, a quick refresh inside (outside is horrible), putting over a third of the value of the car in as a stereo (DAB, phone, handsfree etc), it's just up for a quick oil change, air con re-gas and a once over, ready to start the new job. smile
When the time comes (hopefully not for a long time), don't scrap those wheels. A cohort of willing Geralds will squabble to give you good money for those.

Don1

15,939 posts

208 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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Really? I will pay attention to that - thank you!

Krikkit

26,514 posts

181 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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bristolracer said:
r129sl said:
Krikkit said:
Apologies for diverting away from beautiful Merc excellence, can I call upon the beards about the Jag S-type? Tragic looks aside I seem to recall them being a reasonable steer. Looking at a V6 which is cheap locally as a commuter smoker.
I drove some S-Types back-to-back against XJ8s and an XJR at some Jaguar track day at Croft Circuit, decades ago. The S-Type was a thousand times better to drive than the XJ.

Of course, personally I'd prefer a XJ
Edited by r129sl on Thursday 27th July 11:58
They are silly cheap now.
Many are out of thread budget and into shed territory now.

I have a love hate relationship with mine, its not a drivers car,its a bit 'middle aged' too, but it has such a good ride,if you want a wafty smooth auto ride and glide then they are great. Parts are not too bad either. Mines a 2.5 and does about 27 av mpg,I believe the 3 litre does similar.
Plenty around so get one with some toys. People rate the diesels but like any modern diesel,broken bits will hurt your pocket.
The XJ is a better looking car,its rarer too.Its also huge!
I did test one when i bought my S, and when i see one now i still think maybe I should have held out for an XJ. Maybe next time.
I was looking at my S earlier and thinking that its growing on me, I was never sure about the looks, but now when I see all the other pointy square cars out there,i kind of like the jelly mould.
Check for rust, it can be hidden, the cills are covered with a plastic trim panel so look carefully. Suspension can also be tired.
You should be able to find a really good one for the price of some of the rusty 'hewn from granite' mercs elsewhere in this thread.
Thanks both, I'd heard they were decent if not spectacular - the X350 XJ roundly trumps them in everything except external dimensions. The car in question is well under thread budget, but looking at the MOT history could be rather rusty underneath... If it remains as cheap as it is I *may* take a punt on it.

em177

3,131 posts

164 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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SpeckledJim said:
Don1 said:
So, a quick refresh inside (outside is horrible), putting over a third of the value of the car in as a stereo (DAB, phone, handsfree etc), it's just up for a quick oil change, air con re-gas and a once over, ready to start the new job. smile
When the time comes (hopefully not for a long time), don't scrap those wheels. A cohort of willing Geralds will squabble to give you good money for those.
In fear of sounding rude so apologies, but why?

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

253 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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em177 said:
In fear of sounding rude so apologies, but why?
To you those are just a set of alloy wheels. Meh. But you aren't a Gerald.

If you were, you'd know that those are the rare and sexy 17" Meteor wheels. Second only to the Serpent in the Rover 75 Alloy Wheel Dream Team Hall of Fame.

Ownership of a pristine set of one or the other is basically a hygiene factor when it comes to attaining a treasured place on The Committee of any regional Rover 75 owners club.

But you aren't a Gerald, so the wonders of this world will remain a mystery to you. Ha.

BorniteIdentity

1,055 posts

130 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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I went to see this delightful w202 earlier. Gingercators and poverty spec make it appeal all the more.

However.

It shunts when changing gear. Better if you ease off the gas whilst it changes (you need to be psychic) but definitely evident.

Obviously we start with the ATF. After that, what?

It's neither cheap or expensive so would like an idea of what might be heading my way.


Blown2CV

28,786 posts

203 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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SpeckledJim said:
em177 said:
In fear of sounding rude so apologies, but why?
To you those are just a set of alloy wheels. Meh. But you aren't a Gerald.

If you were, you'd know that those are the rare and sexy 17" Meteor wheels. Second only to the Serpent in the Rover 75 Alloy Wheel Dream Team Hall of Fame.

Ownership of a pristine set of one or the other is basically a hygiene factor when it comes to attaining a treasured place on The Committee of any regional Rover 75 owners club.

But you aren't a Gerald, so the wonders of this world will remain a mystery to you. Ha.
the best kind of barge is the one with easily removable chavtat which is worth something to those who like chavtat. I mean it's like bargista holy grail. You can make the cost of the car back on a good set of st wheels. Not so much this one though more a general thing surrounding what to remove before scrapping i guess.

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

253 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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Scrapping a car for £100 is throwing hundreds of pounds worth of spare parts in the bin.

Whether you can be arsed removing stuff and ebaying it is up to you.

But, say, half a day with the sockets and laptop must be worth £200-£500 on a lot of normal cars.


CharlesdeGaulle

26,242 posts

180 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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SpeckledJim said:
Scrapping a car for £100 is throwing hundreds of pounds worth of spare parts in the bin.

Whether you can be arsed removing stuff and ebaying it is up to you.

But, say, half a day with the sockets and laptop must be worth £200-£500 on a lot of normal cars.
There are many things for which life is too short. Dismantling a car for parts is one of them. Perhaps, in just this one tiny area, I'm too rich, but it's not for me.

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

253 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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CharlesdeGaulle said:
There are many things for which life is too short. Dismantling a car for parts is one of them. Perhaps, in just this one tiny area, I'm too rich, but it's not for me.
I enjoy the sockets bit. Don't enjoy the laptop bit.

But my inner (and outer) miser won't let me lob a set of wheels in the bin when I know they're worth, say, £100, if I give it 20 minutes work to rescue them. Not a lot of people earn £300 an hour, and I certainly don't.

bob-lad

2,212 posts

105 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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CharlesdeGaulle said:
There are many things for which life is too short. Dismantling a car for parts is one of them. Perhaps, in just this one tiny area, I'm too rich, but it's not for me.
Agreed.

Half of one of my rare days off is worth more than that to me & the owner of the constantly-topped-up to-do list.

smile


bob-lad

2,212 posts

105 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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BorniteIdentity said:
I went to see this delightful w202 earlier. Gingercators and poverty spec make it appeal all the more.

However.

It shunts when changing gear. Better if you ease off the gas whilst it changes (you need to be psychic) but definitely evident.

Obviously we start with the ATF. After that, what?

It's neither cheap or expensive so would like an idea of what might be heading my way.

Never losing that RED car in a car park.


Jimmy Recard

17,540 posts

179 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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SpeckledJim said:
When the time comes (hopefully not for a long time), don't scrap those wheels. A cohort of willing Geralds will squabble to give you good money for those.
They are nice looking wheels though. The serpents are nice too (I think that's what they're called?)

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

253 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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Jimmy Recard said:
They are nice looking wheels though. The serpents are nice too (I think that's what they're called?)
Yeah, Rover had their act together with wheels. Lots of nice designs, IMO.

idiotgap

2,112 posts

133 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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SpeckledJim said:
SilverSixer said:
idiotgap said:
I managed to lock my keys in the boot of our S211 on the first night of our holiday. Happily all sorted out now.
Eep. For the benefit of other S211 owners who would like to avoid similar, how does one go about locking the keys in the boot?
I'll be scanning straight past the answer to that.

I have found that not knowing how to do something gives you a flying start in not doing it..
Know, or not know... your choice!
You can do it with the estate with motorised tailgate by first locking the car. Then open the tailgate with the keyfob so the boot is open but the car locked. Have a good fish around in the boot dropping the key in the process. Hit the red auto close button to seal your fate.

I'm told you can do it with the saloon too, may well be possible with the estate without auto boot if there is a way of opening the tailgate when the rest of the car is essentially locked.

I gather keyless go cars may protect you from this, the s-class 221 certainly.

CharlesdeGaulle

26,242 posts

180 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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Pvapour said:
still on my hunt for a barge (though now looking at 10k, should there be a 10k barge thread?)
There is a 5-20 thread which is slow and a little unloved.

There's also the 5-10 Lovely Cars thread; full of interesting cars, a little slower traffic'd than this one, but more varied:

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...




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