The "Sh*t Driving Caught On Cam" Thread Vol 3

The "Sh*t Driving Caught On Cam" Thread Vol 3

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The Dangerous Elk

4,642 posts

77 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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Driver101 said:
mac96 said:
mickmcpaddy said:
This is an interesting one- could the SUV's actions have been predictable even without indication? An extra couple of minutes of film would have been useful - had the SUV ignored previous opportunities to overtake the truck? Or was this its first chance?

If it was its first chance- I would have been a bit wary of overtaking both in one go before finding out whether or not SUV was likely to try to overtake. Especially as he started to go wide on the left hand bend, which might have been 'taking a look' before overtaking.

Ideally, it would be possible to use a little bip of the horn to warn the car you are overtaking, to avoid just this scenario- I seem to remember that being acceptable 40 years ago(!)-trouble is nowadays that tends to be interpreted as an insult.

None of which excuses SUV driver. And good that he was identified and prosecuted.But there can still be lessons for the rest of us to learn as well!
I didn't look the best place to overtake in the first place especially from further behind in the queue.

Round a bend and uphill. What if something came over the hill at high speed?
Suv at fault 100%
Overtake "place" was fine as he had a good view.
He looked like he had space to compleat the overtake as well.

I would have made sure that the SUV driver knew I was there with a toot and a flash before I committed to that extent I think. He did not help himself as it turned out.


Edited by The Dangerous Elk on Saturday 25th November 10:35

Driver101

14,376 posts

121 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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The Dangerous Elk said:
Suv at fault 100%
Overtake "place" was fine as he had a good view.
He looked like he had space to compleat the overtake as well.

I would have made sure that the SUV driver knew I was there with a toot and a flash before I committed to that extent I think. He did not help himself as it turned out.


Edited by The Dangerous Elk on Saturday 25th November 10:35
It looks far from a good view on that video clip.

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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blueg33 said:
al1991 said:
white van driver meets white van driver. Sadly its totally believable.
That's what happens when you hand out driving licences to every hair-covered gorilla that can manage to press the pedals and not eat their own faeces.

blueg33

35,868 posts

224 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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Driver101 said:
It looks far from a good view on that video clip.
Its a really good view, much better than the view the SUV had. The cam car driver had a clear view of the whole road as the bend swings to the right. That type of view for an over take is often better and safer than a dead straight road that ruins perspective and hides junctions

Drive Blind

5,095 posts

177 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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the suv v pug overtake - would a more modern car with ESP saved that ?




spikeyhead

17,315 posts

197 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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Drive Blind said:
the suv v pug overtake - would a more modern car with ESP saved that ?
I'm certain that any competent driver could have saved that enough to keep the car on the black stuff

The Dangerous Elk

4,642 posts

77 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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Driver101 said:
It looks far from a good view on that video clip.
How was that unsighted ?, you can see right across to the crest and it is clear, it also has good distance for a quick overtake, and both drivers disagree with you as well. (Just one was a little lacking)

Driver101

14,376 posts

121 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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The Dangerous Elk said:
Driver101 said:
It looks far from a good view on that video clip.
How was that unsighted ?, you can see right across to the crest and it is clear, it also has good distance for a quick overtake, and both drivers disagree with you as well. (Just one was a little lacking)
He can see up the hill to the next bend, but something could have come around there quick.

His overtake didn't look particularly quick.

My opinion is it's not the most sensible place to ovetake from a queue.

The Moose

22,847 posts

209 months

Dixy

2,921 posts

205 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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The Dangerous Elk said:
Suv at fault 100%
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I think it exceptional for anyone ever to be 100% at fault, even when the other driver is not in the car (eg lake district tractor)
In this instance the SUV is undoubtedly a muppet who failed to do a Bob and Tom but I put him only partially to blame

Lance Catamaran

24,977 posts

227 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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Dixy said:
The Dangerous Elk said:
Suv at fault 100%
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I think it exceptional for anyone ever to be 100% at fault, even when the other driver is not in the car (eg lake district tractor)
In this instance the SUV is undoubtedly a muppet who failed to do a Bob and Tom but I put him only partially to blame
He failed to look before pulling out, it's completely his fault and the courts agreed

Dixy

2,921 posts

205 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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I would also say that if the SUV was driving without due care and attention so was the overtaking car, if the overtake was on for him it was even more acceptable for the SUV and he should have allowed for that eventuality, the fact that the SUV did not make contact with him shows that he was still behind it when it started its manoeuvre. But he was an ex job so.....

numtumfutunch

4,723 posts

138 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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Lance Catamaran said:
Dixy said:
The Dangerous Elk said:
Suv at fault 100%
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I think it exceptional for anyone ever to be 100% at fault, even when the other driver is not in the car (eg lake district tractor)
In this instance the SUV is undoubtedly a muppet who failed to do a Bob and Tom but I put him only partially to blame
He failed to look before pulling out, it's completely his fault and the courts agreed
You could argue that the SUV did look but the Peugeot was in his blind spot at that exact instant

Leaving the scene is just scummy though and Id throw away the key for that one

hyphen

26,262 posts

90 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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The Moose said:
Idiot cam driver with the extended horning, but the other driver's road rage fail rofl

hyphen

26,262 posts

90 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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The Dangerous Elk said:
Suv at fault 100%
Overtake "place" was fine as he had a good view.
He looked like he had space to compleat the overtake as well.
+1

oceanview

1,511 posts

131 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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FreeLitres said:
I'm amazed that a "former traffic cop" couldn't control the car enough to keep it on the road.
Sometimes it doesn't matter who's driving- the laws of physics and all that, particularly with a shopping trolley Peugeot 207!

Also, just because they were a traffic cop, doesn't equate to brilliant driver in my book- I would expect any experienced track driver to be at least their equal - not even that really, as they're only used to controlled tame "pursuits" in training . And as for there "tactical containment training"- well, no wonder they fk up so much in real world pursuits!

No doubt a few talented drivers but, just because you've had a bit of (lame) training doesn't make you a driving god- indeed, we could have say, football training with the best coaches/teams in the world but we aren't all going to end up premiership quality!!

Edited by oceanview on Saturday 25th November 17:47

PDP76

2,571 posts

150 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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It’s always a gamble overtaking 2 or more vehicles, especially if they are following a slow vehicle.
I’d ive been very wary of the suv and notified my presence with a beep of the horn. For an traffic cop I’m surprised he didn’t do this.
If you can’t get eye contact you need to let other road users know you are there. The horn does this well.

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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i had a crash like that but moved onto the verge as he pulled out as i was along side him. He just bounced off me and wrote of his car. The police did him for careless driving. my car once pulled out from the verge was fine, when Audis were built to last.(Audi a4 b5)

4x4Tyke

6,506 posts

132 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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SUV totally responsible for accident.

The over-take was rash given the limited visibility and lack of power to accelerate up hill.

SonicShadow

2,452 posts

154 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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The correct solution is buy a more powerful car. Would have been past it before the SUV thing decided to do anything.
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