RE: Mercedes-AMG E43 Estate: Driven
Discussion
anonymous said:
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LHD GLC owners in the USA and Canada have confirmed they are NOT experiencing the problem being seen on our RHD cars here in the UK + also reported on a RHD in Australia. MB appear (?) to have designed and engineered non-crabbing LHD vehicles ( possibly with different Diff design ) that Until recently were used for journalist / marketing launches and previews, which is why the problem has only recently been reported in the UK media / press.
Tony Mac said:
anonymous said:
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LHD GLC owners in the USA and Canada have confirmed they are NOT experiencing the problem being seen on our RHD cars here in the UK + also reported on a RHD in Australia. MB appear (?) to have designed and engineered non-crabbing LHD vehicles ( possibly with different Diff design ) that Until recently were used for journalist / marketing launches and previews, which is why the problem has only recently been reported in the UK media / press.
Quite clearly down to steering geometry; presumably a mix of caster / ackerman, stiff sidewall low profile tyres and big heavy wheels. Use winters or spec smaller wheels if you dont want it to happen. Had similar stuff happen on my last E36 after increasing caster and reducing ackerman on 17s with stretched tyres. A diff issue would present very different characteristics
Dan Trent said:
Yep, on DCCD Subarus that only happens in the 'Lock' setting on the diff which is basically the last resort/get me out of that snow drift setting and not recommended for general driving IIRC.
Cheers,
Dan
Putting 4Wheel Drive on the proper AMG's is Sacrilege Dan!Cheers,
Dan
585 Brake going through the rear wheels only in the wet tends to concentrate the mind a little. Ha ha.
I've got a E63 S W212 (facelift version). Purchased it on its 1st Birthday after it had taken its big depreciation 1st hit.
AMG are Dancing to other Manufactures tunes offering up AWD for their big hitters.
Everybody knows what Ze Germans do best and they should stick to it, making super Scary Rear Wheel Drive Cars & porn/stting in Birds Mouths - on Video.
The W212's were for real drivers who like to scare 4 other people around bends in the wet (or dry when the mood takes them
Saying that I only use mine on a weekend - family days & then its on dry days lol.;)
Mon to fri or wet weekends and it's the Golf R estate
Edited by MartinGLeeds on Thursday 19th January 22:01
Edited by MartinGLeeds on Thursday 19th January 22:01
anonymous said:
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Appreciate your input and personal Porsche based experience, but still doesn't make it right and we shouldn't have to 'shut up and put up' with a badly engineered car - many other 4x4's drive perfectly well, even the LHD GLC's appear to be ok, and I would expect MB to deliver a better car in the UK. I can hear you saying, again, that's it's normal, which it might be for you, but not for me and the manufacturer needs to know.
The GLC is marketed as a cross-over SUV luxury family car, and prospective UK based owners taking delivery of a new GLC between September and May = 2/3's of the year, will need to pay another £1,500 - £2,500 for a set of winter tyres to enjoy the drive. Especially as 99% of UK drivers will never have fitted winter tyres, and will be shocked and upset by this experience.
Below is a section of the GLC portion of the Mercedes UK website under Driving Dynamics - doesn't quite match the reality
"The GLC handles with all the precision and composure you expect from a Mercedes-Benz. Even in challenging driving conditions, 4MATIC permanent all-wheel drive is on hand to optimise traction and ensure superb response. The system has even been specially tuned for right-hand drive vehicles, with a 39:61 torque distribution between front and rear axles to enhance driving enjoyment and control."
"The GLC handles with all the precision and composure you expect from a Mercedes-Benz. Even in challenging driving conditions, 4MATIC permanent all-wheel drive is on hand to optimise traction and ensure superb response. The system has even been specially tuned for right-hand drive vehicles, with a 39:61 torque distribution between front and rear axles to enhance driving enjoyment and control."
Edited by Tony Mac on Sunday 22 January 12:59
PetrolAholic said:
My B7 RS4 did this when the front tyres were nearing their life on tread depth, was always a good indicator!
Interesting, our tyres have done 8,500 miles, fronts showing wear on outer 2 or 3 inches, which MB service manager claims is normal - would expect more on a 250d. The juddering was apparent for most of last year, so happened on new tyres, worse since Sept 2016
Hi,
Have recently bought the E43 as it is understated and replaces an Audi 3L S-Line estate I had.
I have the issues with the front wheels on anything close to front lock and it seems to be the new "airless" wheels where they can be driven if punctured (no spare wheel supplied). They seem to almost ripple at the edges from what I have seen.
Would be good to know if you guys have yet any response / further testing as this is the first forum I have seen with anything about this. Mercedes themselves haven't been able yet to supply anything. (unsure if they are allowed to).
Have also had as yet 2 breakdowns (less than 1000 miles driven) so be interested to know if others have had reliability issues with the ignition system / starter motors...?
Car drives really well and has a nice bit of punch across the range although bit slow to respond in lower gears (I assume due to slower gear change mechanisms of kick-down).
Many Thanks for some hints on the rippling and reliability...
Have recently bought the E43 as it is understated and replaces an Audi 3L S-Line estate I had.
I have the issues with the front wheels on anything close to front lock and it seems to be the new "airless" wheels where they can be driven if punctured (no spare wheel supplied). They seem to almost ripple at the edges from what I have seen.
Would be good to know if you guys have yet any response / further testing as this is the first forum I have seen with anything about this. Mercedes themselves haven't been able yet to supply anything. (unsure if they are allowed to).
Have also had as yet 2 breakdowns (less than 1000 miles driven) so be interested to know if others have had reliability issues with the ignition system / starter motors...?
Car drives really well and has a nice bit of punch across the range although bit slow to respond in lower gears (I assume due to slower gear change mechanisms of kick-down).
Many Thanks for some hints on the rippling and reliability...
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