RE: Nissan GT-R NISMO MY17: Driven

[gigglebug]

I've got my fingers crossed for a tube of Smarties when I hit 1000

[turbobloke]

gigglebug said:

I've got my fingers crossed for a tube of Smarties when I hit 1000

I won't spoil the excitement of anticipation

There are Top Lurker payments too you know, try slowing down a bit

[200Plus Club]

Slightly off topic but if I had £40k and the choice was a remapped Golf or something actually interesting there is a huge world of pleasure out there (car related!) at that price point! You could buy a GTR and stage 1 kit plus some NISMO stickers off Ebay ! Job jobbed

[Joeguard1990]

Yipper said:

£150k for a 600bhp Nissan is insane. Especially when you realise £30k for a Golf R and a £10k for an aftermarket remap will get you 550bhp and something just as fast.

Don't feed the troll!!

[Joeguard1990]

I have nothing more to add to this topic other than there are those who prefer German and those who prefer British. Yes there are other cars from other manufacturers that others would pick over this. Each have their own special editions as does the Japanese.
History shows that Nismo have had huge success and have a huge fanbase and if you look at the last Nismo Car that was on sale (the R34 Z-Tune) you'll see that prices for those have sky-rocketed. There will always be people out there looking to buy/collect/own the best version of the GTR available tuned by Nissan's in-house tuner. It wouldn't matter in the slightest if you think the Porsche or Mclaren is the better car.

The Golf R tuned comment is laughable. You can do that with any car with the right cash but the chasis and original car will still be the same. I mean heck why not just save more money and build your own kit car!

[tjlees]

peterpeter said:

I've got a few cars including an m2 a 911 , boxster and a Gtr

Gtr is the best of the lot by miles -

150 is a definitely a bit OTT- 125 or so would be closer to the
Mark. For me the track edition is the one to get in the 2017 models

I've driven most of those as well - and not just on a test drive. Nissan is ballistic and excellent VFM, but at the 911, 507 and 458 level, for me the Nissan lacks feedback and feel, fails to excite on the inside, very Japanese on outside and not at the same build quality. Its always a pleasure to drive, but has yet to make into the garage - always beaten by better looking and sounding kit.

On a track the GTR roles way too much, its weight gets in the way and consumes way too many consumables. Caterham or other lightweight track car is the way to go with no flappy paddle, no power steering, no abs, no traction control and no 4WD to interfere with the sensory overload.

[BORN2bWILD]

I have to laugh at the GTR haters who crawl out of the woodwork uttering complete BS.

If you have owned one and still think there crap or passed their best date then fine, be objective and explain, but if you haven't owned one and just need to utter BS then do us all a favour and be quite.

I have owned RS Turbos, Jags, Porche, Merc AMGs etc etc etc... none of them come close to my GTR which I have kept for the longest of any car.

Why have I kept one for over 2 years? Buy one and find out, not just a test drive on some super car blast track day... own one and get to know what makes it so special.

[MartinGLeeds]

Alpinestars said:

I had a standard GTR a few years back and that was a pretty bland drive, but not as bland as a 911T. The Nismo is a significantly different car to drive. Steers better, turns in better, can be edgy, the noise, and whilst subjective, the looks.

Would you say the bland is down to 4WD?

[turbobloke]

BORN2bWILD said:

I have to laugh at the GTR haters who crawl out of the woodwork uttering complete BS.

Not having noted anyone expressing hate as such, though I may have missed it, all I can say is that from here the OP relates to an ugly but even-higher-performance NISMO variant. There are some handsome GT-Rs that I consider don't need plastic surgery but that's the thing about cars, everyone has their own valid opinion for their own reasons which express different priorities.

[Alpinestars]

MartinGLeeds said:

Would you say the bland is down to 4WD?

Not sure which car you mean? the 911T is bland in my view, partly because of the 4 wd. It's a "safe" car in most respects, the 4 wd, and impunity it can be driven with, the lack of revs before it starts munching into rev range 1 issues (manual version), no aural drama. I just find it dull. It requires very little skill to extract speed from it, and even then it does it in a dull fashion. Very effective, very top trumps, but not very interesting.

I also found the standard GTR to be pretty dull, because whilst it's not quite as easy to drive very quickly (it's much bigger and moves around a lot more), it was only ever any fun when going at warp speeds, which makes it redundant as a fun car most of the time.

The Nismo, is just more interactive, even at low speeds. That's largely down to the steering feel I think. As speed builds, it's more alive than the standard car, changing direction much better and has a better, more mechanical noise as well.

[turbobloke]

Alpinestars said:

MartinGLeeds said:

Would you say the bland is down to 4WD?

Not sure which car you mean? the 911T is bland in my view, partly because of the 4 wd. It's a "safe" car in most respects, the 4 wd, and impunity it can be driven with, the lack of revs before it starts munching into rev range 1 issues (manual version), no aural drama. I just find it dull.

Thank goodness for that.

The 911T I found intoxicating to drive and referred to as not dull earlier in the thread - against hasty and uninformed suggestions - has just been saved from mediocrity

Rear wheel drive, no driver aids, ~200kg lighter due to carbon body parts and racing seats, B&B tri-flo exhaust that even Tiff Needell admired in terms of its powerful golden tones on top of revised induction system roar (shameless name-drop but why not) also 1-bar boost and overall decent acceleration e.g. 30-70 in 3s and on top of that the Ruf rear and TechArt front suspension not only prevented wheelies on emergency starts, but tended to give 4-wheel drifts more often than purely tail-out behaviour in spirited cornering.

These may be the type of changes that a motorsport division might make to a base road car, you never know what those racy chaps might do.

[Alpinestars]

turbobloke said:

Thank goodness for that.

The 911T I found intoxicating to drive and referred to as not dull earlier in the thread - against hasty and uninformed suggestions - has just been saved from mediocrity

Rear wheel drive, no driver aids, ~200kg lighter due to carbon body parts and racing seats, B&B tri-flo exhaust that even Tiff Needell admired in terms of its powerful golden tones on top of revised induction system roar (shameless name-drop but why not) also 1-bar boost and overall decent acceleration e.g. 30-70 in 3s and on top of that the Ruf rear and TechArt front suspension not only prevented wheelies on emergency starts, but tended to give 4-wheel drifts more often than purely tail-out behaviour in spirited cornering.

These may be the type of changes that a motorsport division might make to a base road car, you never know what those racy chaps might do.

Goal.



Posts.


So a "standard", common or garden 911 T then? This mythical monster is growing quicker than your post count Turbo. By the time you've finished fantasising about the spec, it'll be a Nismo no less. Time to take your blindfolds off.