Getting car with no tax / MOT / insurance to Garage ...

Getting car with no tax / MOT / insurance to Garage ...

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Islandlawyer

1 posts

83 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2017
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You cannot take the vehicle on the road without insurance. This includes towing it. The main point here being the word 'on' the road. This means if you intend to move it without insurance the vehicle must NOT touch the road, I.e it must be on a trailer or similar. Ask the garage to collect it, this normally costs around £10 and they can drive it on trade plates. This is the most simple solution. As far as tax goes, you may drive a vehicle to a testing station without tax so long as you have a pre-booked mot however, in theory, once the vehicle has passed the mot you should really tax it before you collect the vehicle. The reasons are self explanatory. You cannot tax a car without an mot, this means you are covered for the journey to the testing station, however, once an mot has been issued, the vehicle can be taxed. Therefore there is no excuse for driving without tax once the mot is issued. If you are pulled over it would be at the discretion of the police officer as to whether to charge you with the offence of driving a motor vehicle without tax as this is a strict liability offence. But the insurance is a huge no-no. What happens if you hit and injure somebody en route and that person is so badly injured that they require specialist care for the rest of their life? This would need to come from your insurance company, unless of course, you have the kind of money most of us dream of!

ambuletz

10,721 posts

181 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2017
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get 1 day insurance, charge your friend for it. drive straight to test centre, get MOT, drive it back. done.

Your friend will then have to sort out their own tax/insurance once they reach UK soil.

rallycross

12,780 posts

237 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2017
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Islandlawyer said:
You cannot take the vehicle on the road without insurance. This includes towing it. The main point here being the word 'on' the road. This means if you intend to move it without insurance the vehicle must NOT touch the road, I.e it must be on a trailer or similar. Ask the garage to collect it, this normally costs around £10 and they can drive it on trade plates. This is the most simple solution. As far as tax goes, you may drive a vehicle to a testing station without tax so long as you have a pre-booked mot however, in theory, once the vehicle has passed the mot you should really tax it before you collect the vehicle. The reasons are self explanatory. You cannot tax a car without an mot, this means you are covered for the journey to the testing station, however, once an mot has been issued, the vehicle can be taxed. Therefore there is no excuse for driving without tax once the mot is issued. If you are pulled over it would be at the discretion of the police officer as to whether to charge you with the offence of driving a motor vehicle without tax as this is a strict liability offence. But the insurance is a huge no-no. What happens if you hit and injure somebody en route and that person is so badly injured that they require specialist care for the rest of their life? This would need to come from your insurance company, unless of course, you have the kind of money most of us dream of!
Are you from mumsnet?

Also please tell us where you will find garages who will come and collect your car for £10 on trade plates?

jamoor

14,506 posts

215 months

Wednesday 24th May 2017
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You don't need trade plates if it's registered, assuming the car is going to the garage doing the MOT.

Second if you own a car you may be insured to drive it on a drive other cars policy which means you can drive it to a prebooked MOT

adamInca

207 posts

143 months

Wednesday 24th May 2017
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I had to drive a sorn'd, untaxed, uninsured car to an mot. Got day insurance from Aviva for £18. Job done.

Pothole

34,367 posts

282 months

Wednesday 24th May 2017
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5 miles in rural Scotland with most police concentrating on a critical threat level? I'd be driving it.

Cold

15,233 posts

90 months

Wednesday 24th May 2017
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You've got to hope after posting the question in March, that this minor problem has been solved by now.

Pothole

34,367 posts

282 months

Wednesday 24th May 2017
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Cold said:
You've got to hope after posting the question in March, that this minor problem has been solved by now.
Lol, didn't notice that!

Pistom

4,960 posts

159 months

Wednesday 24th May 2017
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Can anyone explain why it needs to be insured if it is being towed?

I thought that If it is towed, it's technically a trailer. Trailers don't need insurance.

I agree that getting short term insurance is probably the easier option.

Pothole

34,367 posts

282 months

Wednesday 24th May 2017
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Pistom said:
Can anyone explain why it needs to be insured if it is being towed?

I thought that If it is towed, it's technically a trailer. Trailers don't need insurance.

I agree that getting short term insurance is probably the easier option.
The law is pretty clear here – if the car being rope-towed has its four wheels on the ground, it’s treated the same as any other roadworthy vehicle, meaning that it must be insured and taxed with a valid MOT.



everyeggabird

351 posts

106 months

Wednesday 24th May 2017
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Pothole said:
5 miles in rural Scotland with most police concentrating on a critical threat level? I'd be driving it.
yes

I once............(no, let's not go there, just one for the memory banks that we still chuckle about).

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Wednesday 24th May 2017
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Pistom said:
Can anyone explain why it needs to be insured if it is being towed?

I thought that If it is towed, it's technically a trailer. Trailers don't need insurance.
TRAILERS don't need insurance.

Any trailer above 750kg max laden weight needs brakes on all wheels, operated by the tow vehicle.
Any trailer with brakes, no matter the weight, must have them all operated by the tow vehicle.
Any trailer above a certain length must have side marker lights, et al.

Doesn't tick all those boxes?
Then it's not a trailer. It's an emergency recovery, and that means the towed car must be legal in its own right.

scotlandtim

Original Poster:

319 posts

128 months

Wednesday 24th May 2017
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Morning all.

Thanks for the input. In the end I got 1 hr's insurance through "Cuvva" a mobile phone app, and drove it to the MOT centre(Where it was booked in - without tax / MOT obviously!)

I then left it at the garage for 24 hrs after it passed it's test while my friends (From a wifi terminal in Changi Airport!) taxed and insured the car, then i was able to drive it on my piolicy (3rd party only) and meet them off their flight at the airport and hand over their car to them.

All worked out well in the end and cost me a grand total of £7.10!

Cheers!

Pothole

34,367 posts

282 months

Thursday 25th May 2017
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everyeggabird said:
Pothole said:
5 miles in rural Scotland with most police concentrating on a critical threat level? I'd be driving it.
yes

I once............(no, let's not go there, just one for the memory banks that we still chuckle about).
I have one of those stories.