640d with any annoying vibration
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Well I picked mine up again tonight after dropping it off on the 30th of last month.
After an initial road test they agreed something was wrong noting that I had one damaged tyre front near side and one worn on the rear offside I agreed they should replace the two tyres.
They swapped the wheels and tyres for those off a similar car, reportedly the same issue so contacted BMW about other items.
Rang back the following day saying they have a brand new demo 640 with same wheels coming in and wanted to try that first.
Drove it back to back with the demo vehicle wheels and tyres which seemed better..... (although ride comfort far less than the 7 series with variable dampers) tried my wheels back on with two new tyres and two wheels with very slight buckles in two of them but it seems ok so it's back on the drive now and let's see how it goes.
Two hundred mile round trip tomorrow so I might regret accepting it back....
After an initial road test they agreed something was wrong noting that I had one damaged tyre front near side and one worn on the rear offside I agreed they should replace the two tyres.
They swapped the wheels and tyres for those off a similar car, reportedly the same issue so contacted BMW about other items.
Rang back the following day saying they have a brand new demo 640 with same wheels coming in and wanted to try that first.
Drove it back to back with the demo vehicle wheels and tyres which seemed better..... (although ride comfort far less than the 7 series with variable dampers) tried my wheels back on with two new tyres and two wheels with very slight buckles in two of them but it seems ok so it's back on the drive now and let's see how it goes.
Two hundred mile round trip tomorrow so I might regret accepting it back....
lord trumpton said:
The thing is that you could go and get balls deep into the next 7 series and run over a pothole or have a bump or whatever.
Unless you really want to change car then dumping this one and paying more for another seems to be an expensive way to solve a problem,
I went from my 640d ( mentioned earlier) to a 740d on 19's and had exactly the same issue ( not as bad) had two new wheels and it was better but not cured. After 6 BMW's in a row I went to and Audi as my daily and so far after 50,000 miles and nearly two years no issues ( crosses fingers and hugs a tree !!) Unless you really want to change car then dumping this one and paying more for another seems to be an expensive way to solve a problem,
I even bought a 2nd set wheels and tyres when I bought the Audi which have just sat unused !!
Phib
Just spotted this thread by chance, another F12 640d Msport cab owner here with a vibration!
Had mine since September '14 with 17k miles and has been almost fault free! Just the rear camera module and headlight module failed. Fantastic daily! (my daily commute is 195miles, now have 115k - I get 40mpg and almost 600miles to a tank with 80-90% cruising @90).
I run a set of 18" winters from December through to end of March, swapped back over to my summer 20" wheels and immediately noticed vibration after I put them on. I went to local garage and got them re balanced which has made no difference whatsoever! I think the wheels maybe buckled. I'm due a service in about a month so will the get the dealer to check the wheels to see if they are actually buckled.
One thing I have noticed previously is the car sometimes feels 'nervous' at about 80?! But I put that down to the tyres?
Had mine since September '14 with 17k miles and has been almost fault free! Just the rear camera module and headlight module failed. Fantastic daily! (my daily commute is 195miles, now have 115k - I get 40mpg and almost 600miles to a tank with 80-90% cruising @90).
I run a set of 18" winters from December through to end of March, swapped back over to my summer 20" wheels and immediately noticed vibration after I put them on. I went to local garage and got them re balanced which has made no difference whatsoever! I think the wheels maybe buckled. I'm due a service in about a month so will the get the dealer to check the wheels to see if they are actually buckled.
One thing I have noticed previously is the car sometimes feels 'nervous' at about 80?! But I put that down to the tyres?
To provide an update.
I made the 250 mile return trip to Vibration Free today. They said that they thought it was a wheel issue as it disapppears with speed, so no point in looking at the drivetrain.
(Wish I knew that before hand)
They balanced the front pair on the hub, couldn't do the rears because the traction control kept kicking in.
It unfortunately made no difference whatsoever.
It didn't even get to go on the ramp, as friendly as they were I couldn't recommend it
Feeling very frustrated, I then took it to Cardiff to check that all wheels were straight (well round). They were all okay apart from one rear, it was slightly out and they did a wheel repair.
I'm sad to say the vibration is still present and I'm now £300 down with a totally wasted day.
Starting to think of going back to Audi, perhaps A7 Bi Turbo.
I made the 250 mile return trip to Vibration Free today. They said that they thought it was a wheel issue as it disapppears with speed, so no point in looking at the drivetrain.
(Wish I knew that before hand)
They balanced the front pair on the hub, couldn't do the rears because the traction control kept kicking in.
It unfortunately made no difference whatsoever.
It didn't even get to go on the ramp, as friendly as they were I couldn't recommend it
Feeling very frustrated, I then took it to Cardiff to check that all wheels were straight (well round). They were all okay apart from one rear, it was slightly out and they did a wheel repair.
I'm sad to say the vibration is still present and I'm now £300 down with a totally wasted day.
Starting to think of going back to Audi, perhaps A7 Bi Turbo.
Edited by T16OLE on Monday 24th April 22:39
Gutted to hear that OP.
Just to confirm, the vibration is solely through the steering wheel yes?
If so, remind me, has anyone checked the track rod ends? If there's even a tiny bit of play that can cause some problems.
Although in all honesty I'd say you're probably as well getting rid of it, I probably would by now.
Just to confirm, the vibration is solely through the steering wheel yes?
If so, remind me, has anyone checked the track rod ends? If there's even a tiny bit of play that can cause some problems.
Although in all honesty I'd say you're probably as well getting rid of it, I probably would by now.
T16OLE said:
Starting to think of going back to Audi, perhaps A7 Bi Turbo.
Do it. After 10 years of a huge and I really do mean a huge and extremely technical amount of work on BMWs (not a mechanic,) they simply bluff their way with manufacturing vehicles. Edited by T16OLE on Monday 24th April 22:39
I asked the supplying dealer for a P/X funnily enough they're offering less than WBAC.
I'm a bit miffed by this because its still under warranty, has a full BMW history and doesn't have a single scratch or dent. They wouldn't give anymore because its not a retail car because its done 62k.
Oddly they list many cars with more mileage than 62k.
I paid £25k last April, they offered £15,350
I'm a bit miffed by this because its still under warranty, has a full BMW history and doesn't have a single scratch or dent. They wouldn't give anymore because its not a retail car because its done 62k.
Oddly they list many cars with more mileage than 62k.
I paid £25k last April, they offered £15,350
Have you had the wheels 'Road Force' balanced? Has to be worth a try with the TC OFF!!!Had the wheels rebalanced after going to Vibration Free.
The wheels were balanced in three difference places on opposite sides of the wheel.
Waste of time & money unfortunately.
Decided to ask my local dealer if they'd swap the wheel & tyres with a stock vehicle. They agreed, but said they didn't have any in stock, went there today...there's a few on the forecourt & a total of 3 in stock online.
Its like banging my head against the wall.
I'm happy to pay to sort it, but don't want to throw good money after bad if I can avoid it.
Surely better than taking a £10k hit in 12 months
The wheels were balanced in three difference places on opposite sides of the wheel.
Waste of time & money unfortunately.
Decided to ask my local dealer if they'd swap the wheel & tyres with a stock vehicle. They agreed, but said they didn't have any in stock, went there today...there's a few on the forecourt & a total of 3 in stock online.
Its like banging my head against the wall.
I'm happy to pay to sort it, but don't want to throw good money after bad if I can avoid it.
Surely better than taking a £10k hit in 12 months
My six series convertible reaches the end of it's lease in October. 25 years of BMWs and it's the worst car I have ever had as it's been so unreliable with component failures all the time.
It only has 12,000 miles on the clock and it's been to the dealership 12 times. Three times park assist has failed. It had to have a whole new seat frame as well when the seat fell apart.
It's my first and only six series and it will be my last. The dealership have been great I've done all they can including getting a compensation payment from BMW for me but God never again
It only has 12,000 miles on the clock and it's been to the dealership 12 times. Three times park assist has failed. It had to have a whole new seat frame as well when the seat fell apart.
It's my first and only six series and it will be my last. The dealership have been great I've done all they can including getting a compensation payment from BMW for me but God never again
Just read the above posts and guess what I have the same problem. 640d 2014 with 20" alloys. I first noticed the issue during August 2016, the initial issue was with my run flat, turned out the OSF tyre was damaged. This was causing vibrations when driving over 60 mph, I replaced the tyre, which sorted the vibration while driving, but them I noticed vibration when braking, front discs had warped so I had these replaced. Just to make sure all else was sorted I had my alloys checked (OEM) and replaced all the tyres.
Three months later I noticed a vibration again when driving between 60mph - 80mph. I love my car, but the drive on a motorway was sickening. It couldn't be the alloys or the tyres so I had digital alignment done which showed that the wheels needs aligning, (front and rear). I had the wheels re-balanced. It drove better but braking was causing a vibration, so I had the discs replaced again as the previous set were still under warranty.
In April the vibration is back, I'm so sick of this, in fact my mechanic things I'm too sensitive. All I seem to judge in a car now is how smooth the drive is between 60-80, I think it is affecting my mental health and my wallet. Anyway my mechanic asked me to get the wheels balanced else where, local kwik fit and new machines and they the stated the OSF alloy was slightly buckled and tyre although 6mm tread also needed replacing. Thinking this was it, I ordered a new front Alloy and Tyre. Replaced it, went on the motorway this morning and it hasn't made a difference.
I've never experienced a problem like this. And reading the threads above tells me there is a problem with BMW 640d with 20" rims, stay well clear, it's a beautiful car but that is about it. I'm already looking for a replacement car, but I just can't sell the car with the problem it currently has, just does't sit well with me.
Interested to know if anyone permanently resolve the problem, perhaps I should drop down to 19" alloys, but it will terrible!!
Three months later I noticed a vibration again when driving between 60mph - 80mph. I love my car, but the drive on a motorway was sickening. It couldn't be the alloys or the tyres so I had digital alignment done which showed that the wheels needs aligning, (front and rear). I had the wheels re-balanced. It drove better but braking was causing a vibration, so I had the discs replaced again as the previous set were still under warranty.
In April the vibration is back, I'm so sick of this, in fact my mechanic things I'm too sensitive. All I seem to judge in a car now is how smooth the drive is between 60-80, I think it is affecting my mental health and my wallet. Anyway my mechanic asked me to get the wheels balanced else where, local kwik fit and new machines and they the stated the OSF alloy was slightly buckled and tyre although 6mm tread also needed replacing. Thinking this was it, I ordered a new front Alloy and Tyre. Replaced it, went on the motorway this morning and it hasn't made a difference.
I've never experienced a problem like this. And reading the threads above tells me there is a problem with BMW 640d with 20" rims, stay well clear, it's a beautiful car but that is about it. I'm already looking for a replacement car, but I just can't sell the car with the problem it currently has, just does't sit well with me.
Interested to know if anyone permanently resolve the problem, perhaps I should drop down to 19" alloys, but it will terrible!!
Edited by masa83 on Tuesday 27th June 16:27
OP, last effort is to go and do a hunter alignment on these cars. We had an issue where the inner edges of the rear tyres had excessive wear. Hunter alignment has made it very straight now, from Kwik Fit and has a 2 year warranty. They are recommended for BMW, so maybe try that as a last effort. Maximum £100.
Problem sorted. I replaced all my tyres with Dunlop run flats, 80% of the issues was resolved with replacing the rear tyres and the rest of the issued was resolved by replacing the front tyres. So in the end thats all that it came to. The rider is harder and more noise comes through, which isn't great, but at least it doesn't vibrate. I am in the process of claiming warranty on the tyres, rear ones have been refunded, front ones are still being tested. Don't buy Nexen N'fera tyres for you BMW, they can't handle the weight, although they are spec'd the same.
Just goes to show that maybe we should listen to BMW sometimes and actually fit star marked tyres so we don't get stupid annoying vibrations from wheels that puts us off cars that are otherwise very good. I wouldn't want an Audi A7, they are rumoured to always have many electrical gremlins.
rayyan171 said:
Just goes to show that maybe we should listen to BMW sometimes and actually fit star marked tyres so we don't get stupid annoying vibrations from wheels that puts us off cars that are otherwise very good. I wouldn't want an Audi A7, they are rumoured to always have many electrical gremlins.
Maybe BMW shouldn't make that that are so ridiculously fussy on the tyres that are fitted.Gassing Station | BMW General | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff