AddBlue?

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grumpy52

5,572 posts

166 months

Wednesday 5th April 2017
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Bulk adblue can be had for as little as 35p per litre.
The consumption will vary with the type of driving,load terrain etc .
Some of the trucks hardly seem to use any some drink it .
Be very careful handling and storing the stuff .
If you spill it on footwear or clothing rinse very thoroughly immediately. It will rot stuff very quickly .
Store it in sealed containers away from EVERYTHING else ,many truckers have found if storing spare containers in side lockers that everything else in the locker rots or corroded very quickly .

texr2000

59 posts

109 months

Wednesday 5th April 2017
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Alex L said:
Very timely thread, my 4 month old C220D which is now on 12,500 miles was saying 1,000 miles of Adblue remaining. I had no idea how large the tank was but managed to use all 3.5 litres of the stuff I bought from the petrol station and the range has only increased to 1,800 miles.
a 205 C Class has a 25L tank that last around 9-11,000miles unless a convertible and has a 8L tank that last 3000 miles.

Shell has 10L for around £13.50. be warned if you over fill it will put a adblue warning on and need a trip to the dealer. I norm advise people to just add 10L for this reason. This dont work on the convertibles and means quite common for the issue over over fill as dont hold 10L.....


Edited by texr2000 on Wednesday 5th April 16:31

Fast Bug

11,664 posts

161 months

Wednesday 5th April 2017
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As said, MB dealers will top up Adblue FOC until the first service. But if you ask them to do it at point of service then there's a charge for it

w8pmc

3,345 posts

238 months

Wednesday 5th April 2017
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Mr2Mike said:
No quite, the two systems have quite different functions. A DPF is purely to catch particulates (soot) and has no effect on Nitrogen Dioxide (NOx) emissions. ADBlue works with a catalyst (SCR) to break down NOx to nitrogen and water vapor, and doesn't help with particulate emissions.
So do current Diesels have both DPF & AdBlue?

I did realise the 2 are very different in method & results, but i thought the majority of cars running with AdBlue didn't have DPF. I could of course (& not for the first time) be wrong.

DPF has been around for some time & AdBlue a more recent introduction, but i'm sure i've read a few times that AdBleu is the next generation of cleaning for diesel cars.

LordJammy

3,112 posts

189 months

Wednesday 5th April 2017
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Bristol spark said:
Its a Transit Custom.
How old is your Custom? Mines a 63 and I'm all 78k of driving it I've never even known it needed adblue.

Sheepshanks

32,720 posts

119 months

Wednesday 5th April 2017
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w8pmc said:
I did realise the 2 are very different in method & results, but i thought the majority of cars running with AdBlue didn't have DPF. I could of course (& not for the first time) be wrong.
Yeah, that's wrong. All diesels have had DPFs for years and will continue to have them. Indeed particulate filters are likely to be fitted to petrol cars soon.

AdBlue is used by a Selective Catalytic Reduction (SCR) system on many medium and large diesel cars to meet EU6 NOx emissions requirements. Smaller cars can meet the standard without needing SCRs and there are other engineering solutions for NOx reduction too.

rtz62

3,360 posts

155 months

Wednesday 5th April 2017
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My understanding is that the mixture that makes up the adBlue is in very precise quantities, hence making it difficult to mix yourself. Now wether this is horse feathers put out by manufacturers to make you buy the product from them, I don't know, but as it costs so relatively little, is it worth it. Indeed, I could make up the cost of a full adBlue refill by filling my car at one local fuel station where diesel is 5p/litre cheaper than next to J29 of the M1.
Thankfully my Octavia, despite running on diseasel, doesn't use adBlue.

MrGeoff

650 posts

172 months

Wednesday 5th April 2017
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texr2000 said:
Alex L said:
Very timely thread, my 4 month old C220D which is now on 12,500 miles was saying 1,000 miles of Adblue remaining. I had no idea how large the tank was but managed to use all 3.5 litres of the stuff I bought from the petrol station and the range has only increased to 1,800 miles.
a 205 C Class has a 25L tank that last around 9-11,000miles unless a convertible and has a 8L tank that last 3000 miles.

Shell has 10L for around £13.50. be warned if you over fill it will put a adblue warning on and need a trip to the dealer. I norm advise people to just add 10L for this reason. This dont work on the convertibles and means quite common for the issue over over fill as dont hold 10L.....


Edited by texr2000 on Wednesday 5th April 16:31
All spot on there, I had a c220 cab as my last company car, I think I had to have the tank filled twice in 3 months over just shy of 9000 miles. Switched back to a saloon and I won't need it filling up at all over the same mileage.

Westyman

95 posts

243 months

Wednesday 5th April 2017
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go to your nearest HGV dealer - I work for Scania and we sell it from the pump @ 40p/ltr

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

255 months

Wednesday 5th April 2017
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w8pmc said:
So do current Diesels have both DPF & AdBlue?
Yes, though they may not be separate devices as the SCR can be packaged within the DPF.

BOBTEE

1,034 posts

164 months

Wednesday 5th April 2017
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LordJammy said:
Bristol spark said:
Its a Transit Custom.
How old is your Custom? Mines a 63 and I'm all 78k of driving it I've never even known it needed adblue.
Yours doesn't have adblue. smile

My 65 plate doesn't but my 66 plate does so guessing it's a recent introduction on Transits.

You can actually scroll through the menus to check the level .

traffman

2,263 posts

209 months

Thursday 6th April 2017
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I took delivery of my new van 2 months ago. The manager told me at around 9000 miles it requires adblue to top it up with.

Well lo and behold 9000 miles has been and gone , there was a message stating that in 1500 miles the engine will not start . So i added around 4.8 litres of adblue to a small opening near the filler cap. i left the van for 10 seconds before starting it up and the message has gone.

I paid 14 pounds for 10 litres of adblue in Halfrauds. Oh and the vans a new Toyota Proace.

And now its on 10500 miles after 2 months of ownership , i feel a service looming soon!

EazyDuz

2,013 posts

108 months

Thursday 6th April 2017
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Save up a few bottles of piss and use that, literally the same thing

mini me

1,435 posts

193 months

Thursday 6th April 2017
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rtz62 said:
My understanding is that the mixture that makes up the adBlue is in very precise quantities, hence making it difficult to mix yourself. Now wether this is horse feathers put out by manufacturers .
Its not. In fact the Urea quality measurement by the vehicle is a legal requirement and is extensively tested to ensure that only UREA of a quality within certain tolerances has been used. If not then the results are the same as having no UREA left at all in that the vehicle will eventually prevent restarts. I wouldn't recommend pissing in your tank for the sake of saving a tenner.

Anyway who can Piss 10L at a time.


samoht

5,699 posts

146 months

Thursday 6th April 2017
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HTP99 said:
Most manufacturers use the term "Blue" for their more environmentally friendly cars; blue is fresh and high-tec and more futuristic, green is too earthy and a bit too hippy.
The story I heard is that 'green' has acquired a legal meaning, such that advertising a car as 'green' could be subject to legal action, especially as it still consumes fossil fuels, etc.

Therefore, the manufacturers settled on 'blue' as an alternative word for supposedly-less-environmentally-damaging vehicles.

rainmakerraw

1,222 posts

126 months

Thursday 6th April 2017
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samoht said:
The story I heard is that 'green' has acquired a legal meaning, such that advertising a car as 'green' could be subject to legal action, especially as it still consumes fossil fuels, etc.

Therefore, the manufacturers settled on 'blue' as an alternative word for supposedly-less-environmentally-damaging vehicles.
Škoda Greenline range?...

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

255 months

Thursday 6th April 2017
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EazyDuz said:
Save up a few bottles of piss and use that, literally the same thing
Literally it isn't.

trendytramp

35 posts

244 months

Thursday 6th April 2017
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Mr2Mike said:
w8pmc said:
So do current Diesels have both DPF & AdBlue?
Yes, though they may not be separate devices as the SCR can be packaged within the DPF.
Correct. New Transit is sDPF (DPF with SCR formulation and urea dosing), along with passive underfloor SCR

Sheepshanks

32,720 posts

119 months

Thursday 6th April 2017
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BOBTEE said:
My 65 plate doesn't but my 66 plate does so guessing it's a recent introduction on Transits.
I think it was a year later for bigger vans than it was for cars and small vans.

All diesel cars had to be EU6 from 1st Sept 2015 (65 reg) and for most medium and large cars that meant fitting SCR's (which use AdBlue).

HTP99

22,530 posts

140 months

Thursday 6th April 2017
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Sheepshanks said:
BOBTEE said:
My 65 plate doesn't but my 66 plate does so guessing it's a recent introduction on Transits.
I think it was a year later for bigger vans than it was for cars and small vans.

All diesel cars had to be EU6 from 1st Sept 2015 (65 reg) and for most medium and large cars that meant fitting SCR's (which use AdBlue).
All E6 Renault and Dacia cars don't need Adblue and I should imagine Nissan will be the same as engines are shared, the Trafics and Masters use it, however the Kangoo doesn't.