RE: Audi SQ7: UK Review
Discussion
Chiefbadger said:
We had a run to Goodwood late last year with plenty of Audi's (RS3/4/6/7, Sq7 and a V10 R8+)
Everyone there was amazed at the pace of the Sq7. Incredible mid range and at fast road speeds it was keeping every RS honest.
Not my cup of tea, but a pretty incredible piece of tech and anyone doubting its ability should give one a go.
never really doubted its ability, just that it looks horrible and its diesel, apart from that it's probably reasonable, personally I will stick with my petrol RS6 and S8 thanksEveryone there was amazed at the pace of the Sq7. Incredible mid range and at fast road speeds it was keeping every RS honest.
Not my cup of tea, but a pretty incredible piece of tech and anyone doubting its ability should give one a go.
Willy Nilly said:
This is the only category of car (I say car...) that people buy because they think they "need" it.
This is sort of marketed as an off road car, a big rugged off road car for doing big rugged off road things. It's so good at being a big rigged off roader that the people that use big ruggered off roaders don't buy them. It would be like buying a set of hiking boots with smooth soles.
Can you imagine buying a high performance track day car because you bought a house near Snetterton, that's not really much good on a track day and then never taking it on a track day? That's what this type of car is.
To me it's like buying a hot hatch to use for track days because you need (am I allowed to suggest people 'need' a car on a daily basis?) to use it every day rather than buying a Radical/Caterham/whatever. If that's what you were getting at then we must just have differing opinions on the matter, where you appear you would rather have a fleet of cars all with specialised roles and I would rather have one car that does everything I want it to just maybe not as well as the best in each category.This is sort of marketed as an off road car, a big rugged off road car for doing big rugged off road things. It's so good at being a big rigged off roader that the people that use big ruggered off roaders don't buy them. It would be like buying a set of hiking boots with smooth soles.
Can you imagine buying a high performance track day car because you bought a house near Snetterton, that's not really much good on a track day and then never taking it on a track day? That's what this type of car is.
Willy Nilly said:
They buy them because they are status symbols.
Power to the people comrade.If we all thought that way the car market would be a much duller place.
Fortunately we're not all that narrow minded and judgemental.
An increasing number of ph folk seem to be though, as I have said previously often those who, like you, tell us nothing about what they drive but heap scorn on others' choices.
A whole lot of self affirmation going on.
RSK21 said:
Willy Nilly said:
They buy them because they are status symbols.
Power to the people comrade.If we all thought that way the car market would be a much duller place.
Fortunately we're not all that narrow minded and judgemental.
An increasing number of ph folk seem to be though, as I have said previously often those who, like you, tell us nothing about what they drive but heap scorn on others' choices.
A whole lot of self affirmation going on.
There is a thread in the car buying forum right now about someone that has moved to the countryside and now needs a 4wd car because of damaged tyres, when what that op actually needs is a car with high profile tyres and ideally steel wheels. But no, 4wd is what he'll end up buying, which will have high profile tyre and probably steel wheels...
People want these car because now they have bred they must have a big car. But the big car now takes up more of the parking space and they can't get the doors open wide enough so end up parking across 2 spaces. We have a LWB Transit pick up at work. An utterly brilliant product that Ford and totally nailed. It's everything you want from a utility vehicle, but it's a big b
d. If often take it to indutrial estates, that are expecting vehicles like this and it's size make it an utter pain in the arse. I've read a lot of the car buying threads and my budget was actually higher, quite a lot higher in most cases, than a lot of threads on there, so it's not about jealously and I also get paid to drive some big, expensive gear all day, everyday. The thing is, I'm a practical, pragmatic person, so when people say how they "need" a car like this, my thoughts are, the only need they have is to massage their fragile egos.
Willy Nilly said:
The choice we have as car buyers is great and I for one am glad we live in an age where people can spend more money on a car that is actually worse just because of marketing.
There is a thread in the car buying forum right now about someone that has moved to the countryside and now needs a 4wd car because of damaged tyres, when what that op actually needs is a car with high profile tyres and ideally steel wheels. But no, 4wd is what he'll end up buying, which will have high profile tyre and probably steel wheels...
People want these car because now they have bred they must have a big car. But the big car now takes up more of the parking space and they can't get the doors open wide enough so end up parking across 2 spaces. We have a LWB Transit pick up at work. An utterly brilliant product that Ford and totally nailed. It's everything you want from a utility vehicle, but it's a big bd. If often take it to indutrial estates, that are expecting vehicles like this and it's size make it an utter pain in the arse.
I've read a lot of the car buying threads and my budget was actually higher, quite a lot higher in most cases, than a lot of threads on there, so it's not about jealously and I also get paid to drive some big, expensive gear all day, everyday. The thing is, I'm a practical, pragmatic person, so when people say how they "need" a car like this, my thoughts are, the only need they have is to massage their fragile egos.
But is it not a remote possibility to you that people can buy these cars for non-egotistical reasons? My car gets a lot of comments about it being nice and I don't like the fact it generates attention. I got it because I like the car itself and just accept that because some people like it it gets comments.There is a thread in the car buying forum right now about someone that has moved to the countryside and now needs a 4wd car because of damaged tyres, when what that op actually needs is a car with high profile tyres and ideally steel wheels. But no, 4wd is what he'll end up buying, which will have high profile tyre and probably steel wheels...
People want these car because now they have bred they must have a big car. But the big car now takes up more of the parking space and they can't get the doors open wide enough so end up parking across 2 spaces. We have a LWB Transit pick up at work. An utterly brilliant product that Ford and totally nailed. It's everything you want from a utility vehicle, but it's a big b
d. If often take it to indutrial estates, that are expecting vehicles like this and it's size make it an utter pain in the arse. I've read a lot of the car buying threads and my budget was actually higher, quite a lot higher in most cases, than a lot of threads on there, so it's not about jealously and I also get paid to drive some big, expensive gear all day, everyday. The thing is, I'm a practical, pragmatic person, so when people say how they "need" a car like this, my thoughts are, the only need they have is to massage their fragile egos.
RSK21 said:
Willy Nilly said:
They buy them because they are status symbols.
An increasing number of ph folk seem to be though, as I have said previously often those who, like you, tell us nothing about what they drive but heap scorn on others' choices.A whole lot of self affirmation going on.
CS Garth said:
I struggle with the principle that unless you advertise the cars you drive you can't offer a negative view on another vehicle. The suggestion seems to be that all the less than complimentary views are those of green eyed plebs. I'm guessing that's not what you are saying but personally I couldn't care less if someone owned a 500 quid car or a 500k car
You are right that's not what I am saying and it has nothing to do with value or jealousy be that real or perceived. It's more a question that people feel quite happy to have a pop at other people's choices, frequently straying in to the realms of making personality type jibes and yet aren't prepared to give any insight as to what might drive their own version of motoring "appropriateness".
I couldn't care less what somebody's car costs but I am interested in what they choose to drive as I think that on a motoring website that is surely likely to be to some extension a reflection of who they are and what underpins the views they are happy to give on other's choices. Given that cars are the very raison d'etre for this community I don't understand why some people are so reluctant to share.
RSK21 said:
Hmm
Almost exclusively - yep I stand by that as the majority of your posts seem to be knocking the style, price, or purpose of a car mentioned
Shoot - a Range Rover and previously Discoveries. Have witnessed several Q7, Touareg and Cayenne previously but admittedly not as frequently. You couldn't achieve the same with a Legacy Outback.
Validity - didn't question this, as stated previously everybody has an opinion. Yours seem predominantly negative about modern motoring and prejudiced against certain segments which you have freely admitted
Almost exclusively - from the history you can see or have picked. Since you've included the price topic I can see you're bending things quite a lot. But I'm not here to disseminate my posting history or be subject to character assassination. Note I haven't gone through your history. I think it bears no relation to the conversation at hand.Almost exclusively - yep I stand by that as the majority of your posts seem to be knocking the style, price, or purpose of a car mentioned
Shoot - a Range Rover and previously Discoveries. Have witnessed several Q7, Touareg and Cayenne previously but admittedly not as frequently. You couldn't achieve the same with a Legacy Outback.
Validity - didn't question this, as stated previously everybody has an opinion. Yours seem predominantly negative about modern motoring and prejudiced against certain segments which you have freely admitted
Shoot - so you yourself used offroaders then. Have you tried an outback? Or seen anyone try? Or is that an assumption?
Validity - if you're trying to build up to calling me a hater, just out with it. But remember I can reverse this and just call you a fanboy and we'd end this pointless avenue of discussion there and then.
One word I will object to - prejudice. I have none. My opinions come from experience, not made up frills of fancy. Therefore, your chosen word is incorrect.
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