RE: Litchfield GT-R LM20: Review
Discussion
GloriaGTI said:
Growing up as part of the Playstation generation, playing the likes of Gran Turismo and Forza as a yout, I used to love taking the already fantastic Skyline and GTR cars and making them absolutely potty, adding every conceivable aftermarket option to them. Bored engines, larger twin turbo chargers, racing exhaust systems, super wide Volk's on racing slicks, larger injectors and intercooler, racing cams and so forth.
That's why I've loved Litchfield's work on these GTR's ever since I discovered them a few years ago. I feel like are living out my GTR tuning dream and share my childish enthusiasm for taking a staggering car from stock to the next level
One day....
Ah, halcyon days, I remember spanking an R34 up over 1000bhp in GT2, then struggling to get it to stop or handle properly with all that power.That's why I've loved Litchfield's work on these GTR's ever since I discovered them a few years ago. I feel like are living out my GTR tuning dream and share my childish enthusiasm for taking a staggering car from stock to the next level
One day....
Krikkit said:
Looks great, full warranty speaks volumes about their confidence in it.
It'd be interesting to get the Nissan engineers with a standard car and one of these to discuss the suspension changes and why Nissan didn't go with the same geo.
At a guess I'd imagine they have different aims for the cars handling characteristics. From Litchfields website "massively reduce the car's natural propensity to understeer" the suspension was developed with Bilstein and Eibach so its a proper job.It'd be interesting to get the Nissan engineers with a standard car and one of these to discuss the suspension changes and why Nissan didn't go with the same geo.
I'd have loved to buy one of these and I expect the residuals to be strong.
threespires said:
Recently I had the pleasure of driving this Nismo around Guadix circuit & then to Granada.
What an impressive car.
I'd refer to that one as the Track Edition rather than the Nismo.What an impressive car.
Engineered by Nismo yes, but the actual GTR Nismo itself is a whole different kettle of fish.
plenty said:
SlimJim16v said:
Nope. Rotors is the AMERICAN term for discs. It makes no difference if they're one or two piece construction.
Nope. He's totally correct in referring to the (British) use of the term "rotors" as being one part of the two-piece discs featured on this car (the other part being the bell). Litchfield themselves refer to "rotors" in the LM20 spec sheet - take it up with them.SlimJim16v said:
It's use by a British journalist is laughable, other than when describing an American vee-hickle.
Not as laughable as a misused apostrophe when criticising someone else's language.I have bespoke brakes; Abarth Brembo calipers, with aluminium bells and floating AP discs on my car. At no time were they refered to as rotors when we were discussing them.
SlimJim16v said:
Well, it's lucky I'm not a journalist then, isn't it? Rather an engineer who likes reading about and playing around with cars and for long enough to know that the term "rotors", has only recently begun to appear on UK forums.
I have bespoke brakes; Abarth Brembo calipers, with aluminium bells and floating AP discs on my car. At no time were they refered to as rotors when we were discussing them.
Wow, egghead mode. Showing his true colors.I have bespoke brakes; Abarth Brembo calipers, with aluminium bells and floating AP discs on my car. At no time were they refered to as rotors when we were discussing them.
StottyGTR said:
Krikkit said:
Looks great, full warranty speaks volumes about their confidence in it.
It'd be interesting to get the Nissan engineers with a standard car and one of these to discuss the suspension changes and why Nissan didn't go with the same geo.
At a guess I'd imagine they have different aims for the cars handling characteristics. From Litchfields website "massively reduce the car's natural propensity to understeer" the suspension was developed with Bilstein and Eibach so its a proper job.It'd be interesting to get the Nissan engineers with a standard car and one of these to discuss the suspension changes and why Nissan didn't go with the same geo.
I'd have loved to buy one of these and I expect the residuals to be strong.
On top of this (and call me a cynic if you like) but how can you charge extra for a NISMO track edition if your standard car is already as capable as is possible?
SlimJim16v said:
Nope. Rotors is the AMERICAN term for discs. It makes no difference if they're one or two piece construction.
Other than actual Americans, probably only used by the type of person who says "can I take/get" when buying something at the 'store'. It's use by a British journalist is laughable, other than when describing an American vee-hickle.
And while we are at it Dan , things this side of the Atlantic are "Standard", not "Stock".Other than actual Americans, probably only used by the type of person who says "can I take/get" when buying something at the 'store'. It's use by a British journalist is laughable, other than when describing an American vee-hickle.
(That aside, interesting article).
AussieFozzy said:
Manufacturers still tend to go for safe understeer even in high end cars.
On top of this (and call me a cynic if you like) but how can you charge extra for a NISMO track edition if your standard car is already as capable as is possible?
Marketing plus a few mechanical and/or electronic tweaks therefore they can charge more .... 911 Turbo / Turbo S ... RS6 / RS6 Performance et al.On top of this (and call me a cynic if you like) but how can you charge extra for a NISMO track edition if your standard car is already as capable as is possible?
Steven_RW said:
When these "brake discs" wear out, you only replace the rotors not the bells.
Have a quick google.
RW
A few owners of my car I know who have floating discs like me have done exactly this. They're cheaper than full discs, whatever they are.Have a quick google.
RW
http://www.tarox.co.uk/product/front-tarox-brake-d...
ZesPak said:
SlimJim16v said:
Well, it's lucky I'm not a journalist then, isn't it? Rather an engineer who likes reading about and playing around with cars and for long enough to know that the term "rotors", has only recently begun to appear on UK forums.
I have bespoke brakes; Abarth Brembo calipers, with aluminium bells and floating AP discs on my car. At no time were they refered to as rotors when we were discussing them.
Wow, egghead mode. Showing his true colors.I have bespoke brakes; Abarth Brembo calipers, with aluminium bells and floating AP discs on my car. At no time were they refered to as rotors when we were discussing them.
Worse than calling brake discs 'rotors', and I know there are many people who use this term, but I don't get why the term 'I run' is used for nearly every aspect of a car in which people describe what type of brakes they use, exhaust they have, wheels, type of map and nearly every other aspect of the car which can be changed. Even when recalling what type of car they used to drive and for how long; 'I ran a C63 for a year' or 'I run a VAG diesel as a daily'. What it wrong with saying 'I drive this' or 'I drove that' or 'I use this' or 'I have fitted that'.
Anyway, completely unimportant but just something I observe frequently and dislike quite a bit!
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