Morgan / Peugeot whoopsie

Morgan / Peugeot whoopsie

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DoubleD

22,154 posts

107 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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Look before you pull out

saaby93

32,038 posts

177 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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DoubleD said:
Look before you pull out
sonar
That doesnt solve it - the Morgan driver will have done that, this is like groundhog day




DoubleD

22,154 posts

107 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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saaby93 said:
DoubleD said:
Look before you pull out
sonar
That doesnt solve it - the Morgan driver will have done that, this is like groundhog day
Oops sorry



Look properly before you pull out

saaby93

32,038 posts

177 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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DoubleD said:
Oops sorry
Look properly before you pull out
Not looking properly is the biggest factor in collisions, or look but did not see
Its partly to do with the way the eye and brain work - scanning and missing or filling in for whats blocking a view
its one thing to accept thats the case, another to try to work out what to do about it once its happened

tin duck dave

167 posts

127 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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saaby93 said:
I havent blamed anyone -has anyone involved done it on purpose?
Besides blame doesnt get us anywhere. Next time it happens it'll be easy to blame someone else
Instead try to look at why someone made a mistake and why someone else wasnt able to avoid
What could reduce the chances of it happening again?
Didn't say you were blaming , quite the opposite, you are seeking excuses when there is nothing more here than a driver turning onto a live lane without observing the vehicle that meant it was an unsafe manoeuvre. It's there on film, nothing to debate.

saaby93

32,038 posts

177 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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tin duck dave said:
Didn't say you were blaming , quite the opposite, you are seeking excuses when there is nothing more here than a driver turning onto a live lane without observing the vehicle that meant it was an unsafe manoeuvre. It's there on film, nothing to debate.
I think we know it became an unsafe manoeuvre wink although that was unlikely the original intention
The question is once someones made that mistake - it's quite a common one, it could happen to any of us at some time
Apart form asking what would have helped prevent them make the mistake- the next question is what would have helped the other party avoid? Once someone makes a mistake, the other party being able to avoid is a good way of reducing the collision stats

DoubleD

22,154 posts

107 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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The Morgan driver should have pulled right onto the chevrons.

Vipers

32,797 posts

227 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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DoubleD said:
The Morgan driver should have pulled right onto the chevrons.
But he didn't, why? Maybe for reasons unbeknown to us, in that few seconds of his manouevour he just didn't see the pug, I can't believe he did what he did on purpose.

Remember as well guys, this is one ofhundreds of accidents occurring on a daily basis on our roads. Error of judgement, result = accident.

Redesign the road, well maybe reduce the speed down further back along the carriageway, then we will have some drivers moaning about it. On the A90 between Dundee and Aberdeen, it's all NSL, except a section past a notorious junction, which has been reduced to 50 apart from that we have vehicles crossing similar junctions to join albeit an NSL busy dual carriageway, from Dundee to Aberdeen.

Re the 50 section I mentioned, I remember a vid from a static camera of a car waiting to cross this junction, nice clear sunny day. (At this time it was NSL). An artic is coming down the southbound carriageway, single car waiting to cross over to the Northbound. As the artic is almost at the junction, the car pulls our, why? haven't got a clue, these things happen.

saaby93

32,038 posts

177 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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Vipers said:
But he didn't, why? Maybe for reasons unbeknown to us, in that few seconds of his manouevour he just didn't see the pug, I can't believe he did what he did on purpose.

Remember as well guys, this is one ofhundreds of accidents occurring on a daily basis on our roads. Error of judgement, result = accident.

Redesign the road, well maybe reduce the speed down further back along the carriageway, then we will have some drivers moaning about it. On the A90 between Dundee and Aberdeen, it's all NSL, except a section past a notorious junction, which has been reduced to 50 apart from that we have vehicles crossing similar junctions to join albeit an NSL busy dual carriageway, from Dundee to Aberdeen.

Re the 50 section I mentioned, I remember a vid from a static camera of a car waiting to cross this junction, nice clear sunny day. (At this time it was NSL). An artic is coming down the southbound carriageway, single car waiting to cross over to the Northbound. As the artic is almost at the junction, the car pulls our, why? haven't got a clue, these things happen.
It's not surprising to find accident rates increase when they lower a speed limit like that. Lower doesnt automatically mean safer
Whats been the experience there?

ModernAndy

2,094 posts

134 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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saaby93 said:
t's not surprising to find accident rates increase when they lower a speed limit like that. Lower doesnt automatically mean safer
Whats been the experience there?
If you mean at the Laurencekirk junction between Aberdeen and Dundee, it's reduced accidents very significantly. There was one a couple of years ago that was a fatality but before that there were quite a few very bad smashes there. It definitely qualifies as a good 50 zone.

angels95

3,157 posts

129 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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saaby93 said:
DoubleD said:
Look before you pull out
sonar
That doesnt solve it
Yes it does.