RE: Lotus Exige Cup 380

RE: Lotus Exige Cup 380

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gofasterrosssco

1,237 posts

236 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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Alex L said:
It looks great but I don't see that it's worth the £40k increase on top of what i've already got. I can spend £7k and get 420+bhp from the SSC supercharger upgrade instead.
Because then you'd have a used Exige S with a modified engine, not a new Exige Cup 380...

Alex L

2,575 posts

254 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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gofasterrosssco said:
Alex L said:
It looks great but I don't see that it's worth the £40k increase on top of what i've already got. I can spend £7k and get 420+bhp from the SSC supercharger upgrade instead.
Because then you'd have a used Exige S with a modified engine, not a new Exige Cup 380...
Which is all well and good until they bring out the Exige Cup 381 which is probably only weeks away...

andy_s

19,400 posts

259 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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DonkeyApple said:
Great looking car and in my personal opinion the Exige is the best looking Lotus in their range.

£83k seems fair value and it's good to see Lotus pushing their prices up and moving away from the mistakes of the previous decade.

Re the interior, it is very functional but there is no doubt that the dash design is looking a little bit 'turn of the century hatchback' and is probably due bringing more up to date if they want to keep pushing prices forward.
The 311 dash would work a treat I reckon.



kambites

67,543 posts

221 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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tankplanker said:
he switch gear could do with an update, doesn't have to be expensively machined out of pig iron, just something lightweight but higher quality from another supplier. When I drove the 350 I felt like the switch gear was out of an early fiesta or metro and I felt like it was going to snap if I didn't treat it carefully.
They're out of an Astra, at least in the case of the indicator stalks. I suppose Lotus could spend some money on replacing them, but would the buyers of this sort of car really be willing to pay more money for some nicer stalks? I'm probably in a minority, but I really couldn't care less what secondary controls feel like as long as they work.

I agree that more information and/or configuration of the stack would be nice, though. There are aftermarket solutions but Lotus should really have something with a bit more function there.

Edited by kambites on Friday 21st April 14:35

DonkeyApple

55,165 posts

169 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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andy_s said:
DonkeyApple said:
Great looking car and in my personal opinion the Exige is the best looking Lotus in their range.

£83k seems fair value and it's good to see Lotus pushing their prices up and moving away from the mistakes of the previous decade.

Re the interior, it is very functional but there is no doubt that the dash design is looking a little bit 'turn of the century hatchback' and is probably due bringing more up to date if they want to keep pushing prices forward.
The 311 dash would work a treat I reckon.

That looks quite smart. I do prefer big, simple clocks personally. But it was the whole dash panel that I was thinking was beginning to look out of step with the price range they are clearly moving into.

gofasterrosssco

1,237 posts

236 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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Alex L said:
gofasterrosssco said:
Alex L said:
It looks great but I don't see that it's worth the £40k increase on top of what i've already got. I can spend £7k and get 420+bhp from the SSC supercharger upgrade instead.
Because then you'd have a used Exige S with a modified engine, not a new Exige Cup 380...
Which is all well and good until they bring out the Exige Cup 381 which is probably only weeks away...
True! But they'll at least take the next one up to 385, surely... wink

400superamerica

26 posts

217 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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Alex L said:
It looks great but I don't see that it's worth the £40k increase on top of what i've already got. I can spend £7k and get 420+bhp from the SSC supercharger upgrade instead.
The SSC supercharger upgrade doesn't make 420+ bhp

Alex L

2,575 posts

254 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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400superamerica said:
Alex L said:
It looks great but I don't see that it's worth the £40k increase on top of what i've already got. I can spend £7k and get 420+bhp from the SSC supercharger upgrade instead.
The SSC supercharger upgrade doesn't make 420+ bhp
Ok, 415bhp according to SSC's website - but you get my point.

400superamerica

26 posts

217 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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Alex L said:
400superamerica said:
Alex L said:
It looks great but I don't see that it's worth the £40k increase on top of what i've already got. I can spend £7k and get 420+bhp from the SSC supercharger upgrade instead.
The SSC supercharger upgrade doesn't make 420+ bhp
Ok, 415bhp according to SSC's website - but you get my point.
Yes, I get your point, but it doesn't make 415 either, it is great upgrade though - loads more torque.

saaby93

32,038 posts

178 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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gofasterrosssco said:
Alex L said:
gofasterrosssco said:
Alex L said:
It looks great but I don't see that it's worth the £40k increase on top of what i've already got. I can spend £7k and get 420+bhp from the SSC supercharger upgrade instead.
Because then you'd have a used Exige S with a modified engine, not a new Exige Cup 380...
Which is all well and good until they bring out the Exige Cup 381 which is probably only weeks away...
True! But they'll at least take the next one up to 385, surely... wink
nah it'll be a 390 with their numbering system but before that we'll have the 'Cup Light' with another 25g shaved off the weight of the cupholder

GranCab

2,902 posts

146 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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You've missed out the Special Editions !

The Exige Cup 380 Camel (yellow/blue), the Exige Cup 380 JPS (black/gold), the Exige Cup Gold Leaf (red/gold/white) ......

suffolk009

Original Poster:

5,373 posts

165 months

Saturday 22nd April 2017
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But would you have the SSC or KomoTec upgrade?

sege

558 posts

222 months

Saturday 22nd April 2017
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spameister said:
Could someone please tell me what is the point of giving a dry weight? I know Lotus isn't the only manufacturer to do this but I can't understand what purpose it serves.
Well I thought the Sport 380 was supposed to be bang on 1100kg wet with that lightweight titanium exhaust...? So if that's correct the point in quoting a dry weight here would be to hide the fact that the cup isn't actually any lighter than a sport! The carbon bits on this car are either carbon or option-able on the Sport surely.
So it seems a bit tame really? 1/2 a second quicker than a sport doesn't seem a lot to me. If I was lucky enough to own a sport I don't think i'd lose too much sleep over no longer having the baddest and bestest...In fact a Sport 350 would do me fine smile

Alex L

2,575 posts

254 months

Saturday 22nd April 2017
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suffolk009 said:
But would you have the SSC or KomoTec upgrade?
SSC for me, seems the more popular choice over here. I'm tempted but may need that cash for a house move.

andy_s

19,400 posts

259 months

Saturday 22nd April 2017
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DonkeyApple said:
That looks quite smart. I do prefer big, simple clocks personally. But it was the whole dash panel that I was thinking was beginning to look out of step with the price range they are clearly moving into.
6 different modes with a big clock one too DA - https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

mjlloyd500

90 posts

86 months

Saturday 22nd April 2017
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how much has it still got that engine from a twenty year old car good looking car but 83 grand no

Yipper

5,964 posts

90 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Reavenger said:
Yipper said:
An epic car from the outside. Hideous car on the inside. Lotus badly need to up their game on their awful interiors.
I disagree. Lotus Exige interiors are functional and minimalist. It fits with the ethos of the car. Everything is logically laid out even if there isn't much to lay out! The seats are some of the best bucket seats you can buy. However, it would be good to see more of the alcantara in the cabin and the sills a tad thinner.
Paying 83k for an interior that looks like a cheap gokart is insane.

Lotus is finally pulling itself together in business terms and making a small profit. If Lotus can refine its interiors and appeal to normal people, their profits will go even higher.

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

234 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Yipper said:
Reavenger said:
Yipper said:
An epic car from the outside. Hideous car on the inside. Lotus badly need to up their game on their awful interiors.
I disagree. Lotus Exige interiors are functional and minimalist. It fits with the ethos of the car. Everything is logically laid out even if there isn't much to lay out! The seats are some of the best bucket seats you can buy. However, it would be good to see more of the alcantara in the cabin and the sills a tad thinner.
Paying 83k for an interior that looks like a cheap gokart is insane.

Lotus is finally pulling itself together in business terms and making a small profit. If Lotus can refine its interiors and appeal to normal people, their profits will go even higher.
That makes no sense at all. Having the interior of a Lexus or Porsche is not the Lotus way and will come with a weight penalty.

People who like nice interiors won't get Lotus at all. No point going after that sort of buyer. The Evora does have a better interior if that maters.

jayemm89

4,025 posts

130 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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spameister said:
Could someone please tell me what is the point of giving a dry weight? I know Lotus isn't the only manufacturer to do this but I can't understand what purpose it serves.
It is a worrying trend Lotus appear to have adopted in the last few months. I always praised them for quoting honest and simple "wet" weights. Now they are doing a Ferrari and quoting "dry with lightweight options" as the headline figure. Not cool IMHO.


Also, for those complaining of the interior, the interior of the regular Exige is actually half decent and if you want a Lotus with a proper interior, this is why the Evora exists.

suffolk009

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5,373 posts

165 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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^^ I get your point about wet vs dry weights. But the problem is that most people will make comparisons without knowing the difference. And when your "thing" is lightweight, why give away an advantage to the competition. You have to level the playing field.