RE: Mazda 2 GT Sport
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Having driven the previous gen I actually quite liked in a pedal to the metal way.
As for handling whilst there was more body roll it definitely had decent steering etc., have not tried the current one mind. I still think the Fiesta would be more enjoyable overall though.
As for not using turbos...that is the whole point behind Skyactiv.
As for handling whilst there was more body roll it definitely had decent steering etc., have not tried the current one mind. I still think the Fiesta would be more enjoyable overall though.
As for not using turbos...that is the whole point behind Skyactiv.
My missus has the 2 sport with the 1.5 115bhp engine. It may be low power, but the 8.5s 0-60 is nippy and it returns a tank average of 50mpg. It's not designed to keep up with the Fiesta ST, but it's a great little drive. Handles superbly for what it is, and you can rev the nuts of it! I think Mazda's interiors are quite decent these days and come packed with toys. It made me go out and get the 2017 3 sport which again i really like.
I've been owning Mazda's for years and the post-ford ownership era has certainly improved the cars. Interior spec and quality / design is far better in my opinion.
I've been owning Mazda's for years and the post-ford ownership era has certainly improved the cars. Interior spec and quality / design is far better in my opinion.
alexpatrick86 said:
My missus has the 2 sport with the 1.5 115bhp engine. It may be low power, but the 8.5s 0-60 is nippy and it returns a tank average of 50mpg. It's not designed to keep up with the Fiesta ST, but it's a great little drive. Handles superbly for what it is, and you can rev the nuts of it! I think Mazda's interiors are quite decent these days and come packed with toys. It made me go out and get the 2017 3 sport which again i really like.
I've been owning Mazda's for years and the post-ford ownership era has certainly improved the cars. Interior spec and quality / design is far better in my opinion.
50+mpg on motorway? I've been owning Mazda's for years and the post-ford ownership era has certainly improved the cars. Interior spec and quality / design is far better in my opinion.
kambites said:
great_kahn said:
How do you get so little power from a 1.5 litre engine in 2017?
By not tuning it for power. I'm pretty sure the same basic engine is available in a higher state of tune in some cars. Its about as quick as the Civic with its 1.8 on paper, but in driving it feels faster. I think thats because of how they've calibrated these engines. They do seem to have a nice well of torque at the low RPMs. Not as plentiful as you can do with a turbo engine, but still good thanks to that higher compression ratio. Have a look at the curve (and that linear power delivery yo!):
http://www.automobile-catalog.com/curve/2016/20857...
For this 1.5 115 bhp there is a 100 Nm from 1500 RPM and that climbs until you hit about 150 Nm at 4000 RPM...I dont think that is too shabby and all the torque is realistically in the zone most people will drive it. OK the 1.0T EcoBoost hits about 170 Nm before 1500 RPM and is then flat for a while...But I found that engine quite lethargic in the Focus whereas the Mazda feels zingy and light.
They're definitely calibrated for the lower end because there is nothing at the top, they get a bit breathless...only the engines they put in the MX-5 with more power seem to like going to the red-zone. Incidently, they have pretty much exactly the same peak torque point as the lower powered engines, they just seem to breath better up top.
I reckon this 2 will be a fun little car to crack about in.
I'm awaiting delivery of my new GT Sport, Soul Red, in August. It will replace my well loved Abarth Punto Supersport, my second. Unfortunately, Abarth have discontinued the model and now do only the 595 and the 124, both impracticable for me. Friends own Mazdas and have only good comments to say about them. I realise the power won't be quite as high as the Abarth but I need a small grand tourer rather than a sizzling hatch. I do high mileages so need a car I can enjoy. I'm very much looking forward to getting my hands on her.
Davele7 said:
I'm awaiting delivery of my new GT Sport, Soul Red, in August. It will replace my well loved Abarth Punto Supersport, my second. Unfortunately, Abarth have discontinued the model and now do only the 595 and the 124, both impracticable for me. Friends own Mazdas and have only good comments to say about them. I realise the power won't be quite as high as the Abarth but I need a small grand tourer rather than a sizzling hatch. I do high mileages so need a car I can enjoy. I'm very much looking forward to getting my hands on her.
Enjoy the car obviously, but a Mazda 2 is hardly the car that comes to mind when you need to do high mileage.
Hi xjay1337: I know it might seem strange to prefer a small car for distance but, providing it is sufficiently comfortable, not too small and has reasonably good performance, not a plodder, I prefer small. In the past, I've driven north of the Arctic Circle and Southern Germany and much of the inbetween. I've also driven in Nevada USA. Some of this was in a Volvo 240 Estate at 20 deg below and some in a very good tourer, a Rover 75, a much underrated car but not a sizzler. I did once have a hired Skoda Citigo (I think that was the name) in La Gomera in the Canaries. It was very small and low powered. I hardly had it out of second gear. It needed it for up hill and the roads were such I didn't dare go fast on the winding downhill mountain passes with huge drops at the side. By small, I don't mean that small. It's good to chat to fellow car enthusiasts.
Davele7 said:
Hi xjay1337: I know it might seem strange to prefer a small car for distance but, providing it is sufficiently comfortable, not too small and has reasonably good performance, not a plodder, I prefer small. In the past, I've driven north of the Arctic Circle and Southern Germany and much of the inbetween. I've also driven in Nevada USA. Some of this was in a Volvo 240 Estate at 20 deg below and some in a very good tourer, a Rover 75, a much underrated car but not a sizzler. I did once have a hired Skoda Citigo (I think that was the name) in La Gomera in the Canaries. It was very small and low powered. I hardly had it out of second gear. It needed it for up hill and the roads were such I didn't dare go fast on the winding downhill mountain passes with huge drops at the side. By small, I don't mean that small. It's good to chat to fellow car enthusiasts.
Fair enough i understand your viewpoint. I have a Fiesta and TBH can do as many miles as you need to in a day and it's not too bad.
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