Speedmaster pro fogging

Speedmaster pro fogging

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Nick Madden

Original Poster:

5 posts

116 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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Hello All,
My speedy pro (1 yr old) fogged up while on holiday last September. It went back to omega who said it was thermal shock. They pressure tested it, said it was fine and sent it back.
All was well until it happened again (no swimming or alike) 2 weeks ago. It has since gone back to Omega again and they have said the same thing. No faults and it was thermal shock. See photos.
I have lost confidence in them - not what i expect from a rather expensive watch!
I am obviously concerned about moisture damage in the movement which i cant imagine has been removed. Am I being too cautious?
Anyone had the same issue?
Any advice?
Many thanks




crashley

1,568 posts

179 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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Similar thing happened to my GMT about ten years ago on a dive holiday in Mexico; turned out i'd not done up the crown properly. Upon return to UK, sent it for a dry out and a service and has been spot on ever since (touch wood). Hopefully Omega stop being painful with yours, especially as it would seem it's their fault, and you get a similar resolution.

Nick Madden

Original Poster:

5 posts

116 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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Hopefully! No diving or swimming in this one though!

VGTICE

1,003 posts

86 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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Unless it's a Sinn with that copper sulphate AR dehumidifier capsule your watch will always have moisture inside and be susceptible to fogging up in certain conditions.

This is a good explanation of why it's normal.

https://youtu.be/uQFuZL14Aaw?t=16m44s

Fallingup

1,527 posts

97 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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Your Speedmaster should be fine for swiming . It's rated for 50m. However if the crown is not screwed down properly or if you use the pushers whilst under water then this will compromise that. Don't do it again!

VGTICE

1,003 posts

86 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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Speedies have standard pull out crown. Unless OP describes conditions in which this happened to him we can only guess.

Fallingup

1,527 posts

97 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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The OP may wish to read this thread:

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Speed 3

4,481 posts

118 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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Speedies definitely aren't waterproof, Dom H strongly warned me off getting it wet when I got mine in Jan. We just got back from a couple of weeks in Thailand where we had some wet & humid weather and in/out of aircon regularly (only worn in the evening) but I didn't get that thermal shock. I would be disappointed with the Omega response. Even with standard fairly new seals a non-waterproof watch should avoid this. I do wear mine daily and keep it wound every day to avoid keep popping the crown, don't know if that makes a difference. I also have the second hand on the chrono sweeping permanently so don't keep popping those seals.

Nick Madden

Original Poster:

5 posts

116 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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HI all
thanks for the responses. Just to clarify i didn't do anything out of the ordinary. No swimming, no pushing the buttons underwater etc. We had lunch outside in the sunshine (it was warm, surrey not sardinia!) and noticed it in the evening. That's all.
Given the price and supposed quality, I would be surprised if weather had such an impact!
Oh and i am well aware (now) that 50m resistance only means it can cope with light drizzle while wearing a waterproof jacket!

Edited by Nick Madden on Wednesday 26th April 10:28

Nick Madden

Original Poster:

5 posts

116 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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Fallingup said:
The OP may wish to read this thread:

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
thanks - i had read this before. the differences being my speedy is new not 12 yrs old!

stewies_minion

1,165 posts

186 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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As it's well in warranty I'd send it back in a fairly grumpy fashion.

Nick Madden

Original Poster:

5 posts

116 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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stewies_minion said:
As it's well in warranty I'd send it back in a fairly grumpy fashion.
It is back with them now. My concern is how/why this has happened and will it happen again if they continue to say there is no problem!

z4RRSchris

11,218 posts

178 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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same thing happened to my AP royal oak.

sent it back (again) all fixed now

bry1975

1,246 posts

162 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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Atleast its not 30m water resistant even less waterproof.

mikeveal

4,557 posts

249 months

Thursday 27th April 2017
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It's water resistant to fifty meters static pressure. That's not water proof and it's certainly not good enough to go surface swimming.

If the watch was sealed on a humid day, then the air inside will contain an amount of moisture, which will condense on the glass if there is a dramatic change in temperature (warm watch to cold environment.) Quite hard for me to reconcile the fact that I'm living amongst a generation of adults who've never known the pleasure of mopping (or scraping the ice off) the insides of their house windows every morning!

Lorne

543 posts

101 months

Friday 28th April 2017
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Nick Madden said:
Hello All,
My speedy pro (1 yr old) fogged up while on holiday last September. It went back to omega who said it was thermal shock. They pressure tested it, said it was fine and sent it back.
laugh 'Thermal shock' laugh

Thermal shock is a very specific engineering term that isn't applicable here. What is applicable would be correctly phrased as, 'it's got some water inside that keeps condensing on the glass'. I assume that prior to pressure testing Omega actually dried it out properly. If you feel brave, or have a nearby jeweller, then the thing to do is take the back off and leave in a warm and dry environment for a couple of days to ensure all the water in the movement evaporates away. If you feel less brave about doing yourself, but perhaps more brave about talking to Omega, then send it back to them and ask them if they wouldn't mind doing it properly. Also ask them not to use engineering terms that sound technical and expensive to fix but are completely irrelevant to what's happened.

Being slightly more serious, you should get it dried out back to bone dry status. The speedy movement is made from materials that are corrosion resistant, but they're not corrosion proof. A few weeks with high moisture will cause surface corrosion on the movement parts and whilst it can all be cleaned off it, will need a complete strip down and re-assembly which is a much bigger job.

hilly10

7,076 posts

227 months

Wednesday 3rd May 2017
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Same thing happened to my Speedie reduced, not quite as bad as yours, but still there non the less. I sent it to Omega where they stripped it and serviced it I kept a further five years never happened again.