Can I buy out a portion of someones house?

Can I buy out a portion of someones house?

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Sarnie

8,044 posts

209 months

Thursday 27th April 2017
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Wow, you're a great friend!! smile

Zetec-S

5,873 posts

93 months

Thursday 27th April 2017
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Assuming you have a mortgage balance outstanding on your own property, you'd probably be better off using the £15k to reduce your own mortgage? (appreciate that's the selfish view to take and doesn't help your mate).

If your mate has no way of raising the money to pay off his ex now, in the long term how does he expect to repay you? Are you suggesting he'll be relying on re-mortgaging at a later date for the increased amount? (so what change in circumstances will result in that being approved compared to now?)

£15k is a lot of money to have tied into someone else's property - if you needed it back urgently you might be put in a position where you had to force your mate to sell the flat?


JQ

5,741 posts

179 months

Thursday 27th April 2017
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This has disaster written all over it. However . . .

His mortgage co., won't let you do what you propose, you'd both need to take out a new joint mortgage and pay all the fees associated with this, including likely paying stamp duty, at the higher rate as it'll be a second home for you.

I'd have thought it far simpler that you lend him the money and take a second charge over the property.

MCLARENSLR

321 posts

143 months

Thursday 27th April 2017
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How about giving him a loan as a second charge on the property? transferring ownership would probably cause too many problems.

PistonBroker

2,419 posts

226 months

Thursday 27th April 2017
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Agreed, second charge sounds most obvious.

supercommuter

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2,169 posts

102 months

Friday 28th April 2017
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PistonBroker said:
Agreed, second charge sounds most obvious.
Problem is they take a back seat behind his existing mortgage. I will never get my 15k back if I do it this way, he would just be paying me interest on it. I want some collateral in ownership of the house. Having spoken to my solicitor and mortgage guy today we will have to wait until the end of their mortgage term in November anyway.

I would like to buy a 15k stake in the house with the associated equity, or buy half of it and he rents half back to me at a reduced rate.He has to see if his partner will wait until November to avoid early exit charges of his existing mortgage.

I will then have to pay a portion of stamp duty I believe to buy half. Which is fine, it is not an expensive property.

JQ

5,741 posts

179 months

Friday 28th April 2017
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supercommuter said:
Problem is they take a back seat behind his existing mortgage. I will never get my 15k back if I do it this way, he would just be paying me interest on it. I want some collateral in ownership of the house. Having spoken to my solicitor and mortgage guy today we will have to wait until the end of their mortgage term in November anyway.

I would like to buy a 15k stake in the house with the associated equity, or buy half of it and he rents half back to me at a reduced rate.He has to see if his partner will wait until November to avoid early exit charges of his existing mortgage.

I will then have to pay a portion of stamp duty I believe to buy half. Which is fine, it is not an expensive property.
If you do what you're proposing you'll still be taking a back seat behind the mortgage co. The 2 options:

Buy Equity
Mortgage Co. has first charge, you and mate jointly have second charge

Lend money
Mortgage Co. has first charge, you have second charge, mate had third charge

Lending him the money puts you in a stronger position to get your money back should it go wrong.

If you're a co-owner, why do you think you'll be in any stronger position to get your money back then having a second charge? If he doesn't want to sell, it will be expensive to make him.

If you're a co-owner I presume you'll be happy paying your share of all maintenance and insurance costs for the property? How do you agree what repairs need doing and what don't?