RE: Porsche 911 GT3 manual: Review
Discussion
Presuming Ed said:
A great car no doubt but rather pointless article if you can't actually buy the car. Same goes for the R/RS/GT4/GT2 and whatever else Porsche has lined up for VIP customers only.
It's not a pointless article if you enjoy cars is it, which I would tend to assume you would if you are on Pistonheads? To date I've never been able to afford anything above 45K, which I would guess is still far more than many others who enjoy learning about all the different cars, does that mean that reading about any car above that price point would be irrelevant and therefore pointless to me just because I've personally never been able to buy one? No it does not and the fact that I'm never going to have a GT3 doesn't stop me being interested in it and definitely shouldn't deny me the right to learn about it should it.Edited by gigglebug on Monday 8th May 14:53
Digga said:
Bling interior brigade are hardly the target market.
TBH, on a quick lap of a circuit, there's little to separate any 911 - all you see is the speedo and rev counter and the rest are incidental.
Tell that to the panamera with its glossy black touch buttons! :-) Im sure its perfectly functional for those couple of hours on a track but for the rest of you life when your not on one i'd say it's barely good enough.TBH, on a quick lap of a circuit, there's little to separate any 911 - all you see is the speedo and rev counter and the rest are incidental.
gigglebug said:
It's not a pointless article if you enjoy cars is it, which I would tend to assume you would if you are on Pistonheads? To date I've never been able to afford anything above 45K, which I would guess is still far more than many others who enjoy learning about all the different cars, does that mean that reading about any car above that price point would be irrelevant and therefore pointless to me just because I've personally never been able to buy one? No it does not and the fact that I'm never going to have a GT3 doesn't stop me being interested in it and definitely shouldn't deny me the right to learn about it should it.
So You've asked a question and then gone and answered it yourself therefore whatever I say isn't going to change your opinion. If you can't go into a dealership and buy it, it becomes a marketing exercise. I'm only bitter because I can afford one at a stretch with the right financing but I don't make the criteria. I wish Porsche would just build as many as can satisfy demand or charge £250k for the thing so its not tantalising me as affordable. Its not as if I can go and buy a new Porsche to build up my credibility as a client as I don't want anything turbo, 4cyl, diesel, fat or a 4x4. Edited by gigglebug on Monday 8th May 14:53
Presuming Ed said:
gigglebug said:
It's not a pointless article if you enjoy cars is it, which I would tend to assume you would if you are on Pistonheads? To date I've never been able to afford anything above 45K, which I would guess is still far more than many others who enjoy learning about all the different cars, does that mean that reading about any car above that price point would be irrelevant and therefore pointless to me just because I've personally never been able to buy one? No it does not and the fact that I'm never going to have a GT3 doesn't stop me being interested in it and definitely shouldn't deny me the right to learn about it should it.
So You've asked a question and then gone and answered it yourself therefore whatever I say isn't going to change your opinion. If you can't go into a dealership and buy it, it becomes a marketing exercise. I'm only bitter because I can afford one at a stretch with the right financing but I don't make the criteria. I wish Porsche would just build as many as can satisfy demand or charge £250k for the thing so its not tantalising me as affordable. Its not as if I can go and buy a new Porsche to build up my credibility as a client as I don't want anything turbo, 4cyl, diesel, fat or a 4x4. Edited by gigglebug on Monday 8th May 14:53
Nothing is stopping Porsche increasing the RRP and/or increasing the supply of the GT3 except the desire to do so, it has to be more profitable for them to work as they currently are.
I enjoy reading about plenty of cars I can't afford, I can't get enough about Mclarens, Ferraris, Paganis, etc. I just don't consider Porsche in the same bracket. May be I'm wrong not to?
Mattjevans said:
Why would anyone want to spec a clearly slower option in a model designed to be the fastest of the range? Bizarre thinking
Driver interaction, simple.Still, if this is just a manual version of the GT3, it's not a new car it's just the old one with a extra option added to the list. Are these actually available or is it just another halo Porsche headline grabber punted out just to line to pockets of the dealer principles golfing buddies. I would consider a GT3 with either gearbox but the pointless limited production for their interesting products put me off completely.
tankplanker said:
Presuming Ed said:
gigglebug said:
It's not a pointless article if you enjoy cars is it, which I would tend to assume you would if you are on Pistonheads? To date I've never been able to afford anything above 45K, which I would guess is still far more than many others who enjoy learning about all the different cars, does that mean that reading about any car above that price point would be irrelevant and therefore pointless to me just because I've personally never been able to buy one? No it does not and the fact that I'm never going to have a GT3 doesn't stop me being interested in it and definitely shouldn't deny me the right to learn about it should it.
So You've asked a question and then gone and answered it yourself therefore whatever I say isn't going to change your opinion. If you can't go into a dealership and buy it, it becomes a marketing exercise. I'm only bitter because I can afford one at a stretch with the right financing but I don't make the criteria. I wish Porsche would just build as many as can satisfy demand or charge £250k for the thing so its not tantalising me as affordable. Its not as if I can go and buy a new Porsche to build up my credibility as a client as I don't want anything turbo, 4cyl, diesel, fat or a 4x4. Edited by gigglebug on Monday 8th May 14:53
Nothing is stopping Porsche increasing the RRP and/or increasing the supply of the GT3 except the desire to do so, it has to be more profitable for them to work as they currently are.
I enjoy reading about plenty of cars I can't afford, I can't get enough about Mclarens, Ferraris, Paganis, etc. I just don't consider Porsche in the same bracket. May be I'm wrong not to?
You have my genuine sympathies as I'm sure I too would be, and on occasion have been, frustrated to have had the means to afford a particular item I desired but knew full well I would be denied the opportunity. That is, unfortunately, always going to be the case when an otherwise popular items availability has for one reason or another been limited and I expect there will be many in the same position as you that will miss out because of Porsches current marketing strategies.
That is a completely separate and inconsequential argument to the validity of reporting a new car on a car website though isn't it. You've said yourself that your opinion on the article is only born from your own bitterness towards Porsche. It would be a shame if a minority of folks bitterness, even if justified, denied everyone else the opportunity to learn about the GT3, and indeed read about someone else's experience with one. You have to remember that for most these articles are as close as they are ever going to get to seeing one, let alone owning one.
Secondly, Tankplanker, I personally still think a Porsche from the motorsport division is something to look forward too and can be considered special even if we have moved on from merely having sportscars and supercars to having mega expensive hypercars as well.
Edited by gigglebug on Monday 8th May 16:53
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