RE: Mercedes-AMG E63 S 4Matic : UK Review
Discussion
V8 FOU said:
£100K + and 2 tonnes? Really?
Fast it may be, but it isn't ever going to be agile at that ridiculous weight.
I don't think it's meant to be 'agile' in that sense, is it? It's meant to be a big, comfortable blunderbus that can make serious progress without compromising too much on ride and 'luxury'. Fast it may be, but it isn't ever going to be agile at that ridiculous weight.
Alucidnation said:
Maybe, but lets face it, not many people would be seen dead in a Jag.
Apart from all those in Jags you see every single day ?I think the 43 is probably as much performance as you would ever need, in fact a middling diesel is, but you would always wonder what the 63 is like, 0-100 in 7 something seconds, Jesus, that must be utterly ridiculous, and what is the betting that the tuners start fiddling ?
dfen5 said:
Not as quick as another AutoTopNL car thoughhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=es4QX_cXBes
slightly more throaty exhaust for the turbo to boot.
Ex Boy Racer said:
I don't really get these cars. I had an M5 and, yes, it accelerated really quickly.
But on a nice road the fact that it was huge, heavy and high simply removed any fun available. It's ok being able to go fast, but big saloons are compromised to the extent that the performance becomes a hindrance - or even frightening.
The current (rwd) E63 Amg feels neither high, heavy, or huge. It does not feel like a "big saloon" in any way. In fact it feels darty and chuckable in every situation I've encountered.But on a nice road the fact that it was huge, heavy and high simply removed any fun available. It's ok being able to go fast, but big saloons are compromised to the extent that the performance becomes a hindrance - or even frightening.
PhantomPH said:
sidesauce said:
In estate form, this could well be all a family man would ever need - a lifetime keeper perhaps?
I know someone expecting one of the first ones in the uk and he was telling me about the list of things he's not allowed to do (go over X revs for the first 600 miles, then not above Y revs for a while after that, etc), otherwise it's bye bye warranty. Something tells me that even IN warranty, you have to treat this car like your best girl if you don't want to risk an expensive 'you did ABC' bill. Not sure I'd want to be holding on to it once the warranty is done. Expect a bargain in a few years. Ex Boy Racer said:
I don't really get these cars. I had an M5 and, yes, it accelerated really quickly.
But on a nice road the fact that it was huge, heavy and high simply removed any fun available. It's ok being able to go fast, but big saloons are compromised to the extent that the performance becomes a hindrance - or even frightening.
On top of this the big exhaust, wide tyres and firmer suspension make them worse at cruising on the motorway.
I wouldn't have one again
I know its not designed for the above but totally agree with the comment.But on a nice road the fact that it was huge, heavy and high simply removed any fun available. It's ok being able to go fast, but big saloons are compromised to the extent that the performance becomes a hindrance - or even frightening.
On top of this the big exhaust, wide tyres and firmer suspension make them worse at cruising on the motorway.
I wouldn't have one again
Great car but I can't get on with the styling of the current Merc saloon/coupe range. From the front they look great but, subjective I know, the droopy apologetic, back end is a total turn off. The only model that carries it off is the S-Class. Suppose it'll have to be the estate then...
jakesmith said:
Doesn't feel like there is anywhere left to go for car performance, as tire grip and physics become the limiting factor over anything mechanical. If the fastest supercars are doing 0-60 in just under 3 seconds and an AMG E is 3.2, the gap is so small.
And as the technology gets cheaper and manufacturers compete, performance trickles down - today's 330d faster than a Ferarri 348.
I think car performance is at or approaching its peak at the moment, before it all goes electric and autonimous
This, this, a thousand times this. Been saying it for a while, but it seems like in pure performance terms everything is getting "bunched up" around the 3-4 sec mark to 60 - hypercars, supercars and now mega-power family estates too.And as the technology gets cheaper and manufacturers compete, performance trickles down - today's 330d faster than a Ferarri 348.
I think car performance is at or approaching its peak at the moment, before it all goes electric and autonimous
Of course, there is far more to a car than the 0-60 dash (which many people think is irrelevant anyway). The hypercars & supercars will deliver their performance in a very different way, pull harder beyond 60/100/120mph and of course handle far better.
But for me, growing up as a lad reading Top Gear Magazine or (more recently) Evo there was always so alluring about the sheer level performance (read - accelerative performance) that was only accessible with supercar ownership. It wasn't breaking distances, steering feel or weight (I couldn't appreciate those at 12 years old) but 0-60 and top speed. In some respects, the relatively "common" accessibility of these levels of performance kind of detracts a little from the allure of a supercar.
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