RE: Mercedes-AMG E63 S 4Matic : UK Review

RE: Mercedes-AMG E63 S 4Matic : UK Review

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ZX10R NIN

27,598 posts

125 months

Tuesday 9th May 2017
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I hate to be the one to say it but 101k is no small amount of change at that price I might start looking at a Brabus.

Hazman123

41 posts

125 months

Tuesday 9th May 2017
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I think I'd rather have the better looking, less chintzy, rarer, more comfortable B5 Alpina at this price...

User33678888

1,142 posts

137 months

Tuesday 9th May 2017
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Model: Mercedes-AMG E43 Saloon
Price: £55,695
Engine: 3.0-litre V6 turbo petrol
Power: 396bhp/520Nm
0-62mph/155mph: 4.6s/155mph


Almost half the price and certainly not short of power...

V8 FOU

2,974 posts

147 months

Tuesday 9th May 2017
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£100K + and 2 tonnes? Really?
Fast it may be, but it isn't ever going to be agile at that ridiculous weight.

PhantomPH

4,043 posts

225 months

Tuesday 9th May 2017
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V8 FOU said:
£100K + and 2 tonnes? Really?
Fast it may be, but it isn't ever going to be agile at that ridiculous weight.
I don't think it's meant to be 'agile' in that sense, is it? It's meant to be a big, comfortable blunderbus that can make serious progress without compromising too much on ride and 'luxury'.

fatboy b

9,493 posts

216 months

Tuesday 9th May 2017
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V8 FOU said:
£100K + and 2 tonnes? Really?
Fast it may be, but it isn't ever going to be agile at that ridiculous weight.
Could be. Jag managed it on the XF. Well sorted chassis even by today's standards for a 2 tonne car.

Alucidnation

16,810 posts

170 months

Tuesday 9th May 2017
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Maybe, but lets face it, not many people would be seen dead in a Jag.


Liking this Merc a lot and I bet its bloody savage when driven in anger.

J4CKO

41,543 posts

200 months

Tuesday 9th May 2017
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Alucidnation said:
Maybe, but lets face it, not many people would be seen dead in a Jag.
Apart from all those in Jags you see every single day ?

I think the 43 is probably as much performance as you would ever need, in fact a middling diesel is, but you would always wonder what the 63 is like, 0-100 in 7 something seconds, Jesus, that must be utterly ridiculous, and what is the betting that the tuners start fiddling ?


dfen5

2,398 posts

212 months

Tuesday 9th May 2017
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My dream car, in estate form anyway.

Shifts a bit. That noise https://youtu.be/tpzhiyfj8o0

Gandahar

9,600 posts

128 months

Wednesday 10th May 2017
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dfen5 said:
My dream car, in estate form anyway.

Shifts a bit. That noise https://youtu.be/tpzhiyfj8o0
Not as quick as another AutoTopNL car though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=es4QX_cXBes

slightly more throaty exhaust for the turbo to boot.

popeyewhite

19,863 posts

120 months

Wednesday 10th May 2017
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Ex Boy Racer said:
I don't really get these cars. I had an M5 and, yes, it accelerated really quickly.

But on a nice road the fact that it was huge, heavy and high simply removed any fun available. It's ok being able to go fast, but big saloons are compromised to the extent that the performance becomes a hindrance - or even frightening.
The current (rwd) E63 Amg feels neither high, heavy, or huge. It does not feel like a "big saloon" in any way. In fact it feels darty and chuckable in every situation I've encountered.

Honeywell

1,374 posts

98 months

Wednesday 10th May 2017
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Still no MX5 though is it..?

Ahbefive

11,657 posts

172 months

Wednesday 10th May 2017
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Alucidnation said:
Maybe, but lets face it, not many people would be seen dead in a Jag.

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Thats a pretty silly thing to say.

Alucidnation

16,810 posts

170 months

Wednesday 10th May 2017
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Maybe.

Anyway, I see very few on the road.

Edited by Alucidnation on Wednesday 10th May 06:57

Burwood

18,709 posts

246 months

Wednesday 10th May 2017
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PhantomPH said:
sidesauce said:
In estate form, this could well be all a family man would ever need - a lifetime keeper perhaps?
I know someone expecting one of the first ones in the uk and he was telling me about the list of things he's not allowed to do (go over X revs for the first 600 miles, then not above Y revs for a while after that, etc), otherwise it's bye bye warranty. Something tells me that even IN warranty, you have to treat this car like your best girl if you don't want to risk an expensive 'you did ABC' bill. Not sure I'd want to be holding on to it once the warranty is done. Expect a bargain in a few years. wink
And I'd respectfully say that's BS on all fronts except running it outside of warranty.

turboteeth

350 posts

162 months

Wednesday 10th May 2017
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£101k - crazy money!!

Nice as 4wd would be in winter I think I'll stick to my 3 year old E63 for a quarter of the price!!!

wolfie28

696 posts

144 months

Wednesday 10th May 2017
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Ex Boy Racer said:
I don't really get these cars. I had an M5 and, yes, it accelerated really quickly.

But on a nice road the fact that it was huge, heavy and high simply removed any fun available. It's ok being able to go fast, but big saloons are compromised to the extent that the performance becomes a hindrance - or even frightening.

On top of this the big exhaust, wide tyres and firmer suspension make them worse at cruising on the motorway.

I wouldn't have one again
I know its not designed for the above but totally agree with the comment.

crostonian

2,427 posts

172 months

Wednesday 10th May 2017
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Great car but I can't get on with the styling of the current Merc saloon/coupe range. From the front they look great but, subjective I know, the droopy apologetic, back end is a total turn off. The only model that carries it off is the S-Class. Suppose it'll have to be the estate then...

Lukey-C

13 posts

106 months

Wednesday 10th May 2017
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jakesmith said:
Doesn't feel like there is anywhere left to go for car performance, as tire grip and physics become the limiting factor over anything mechanical. If the fastest supercars are doing 0-60 in just under 3 seconds and an AMG E is 3.2, the gap is so small.
And as the technology gets cheaper and manufacturers compete, performance trickles down - today's 330d faster than a Ferarri 348.
I think car performance is at or approaching its peak at the moment, before it all goes electric and autonimous
This, this, a thousand times this. Been saying it for a while, but it seems like in pure performance terms everything is getting "bunched up" around the 3-4 sec mark to 60 - hypercars, supercars and now mega-power family estates too.

Of course, there is far more to a car than the 0-60 dash (which many people think is irrelevant anyway). The hypercars & supercars will deliver their performance in a very different way, pull harder beyond 60/100/120mph and of course handle far better.

But for me, growing up as a lad reading Top Gear Magazine or (more recently) Evo there was always so alluring about the sheer level performance (read - accelerative performance) that was only accessible with supercar ownership. It wasn't breaking distances, steering feel or weight (I couldn't appreciate those at 12 years old) but 0-60 and top speed. In some respects, the relatively "common" accessibility of these levels of performance kind of detracts a little from the allure of a supercar.

epom

11,513 posts

161 months

Wednesday 10th May 2017
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Fab, just fab.