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It goes on any way so no difference if it passes or not. The bill hasn't made any difference to the number of foxes killed, it's just more are shot now than hunted. Bizarrely shooting is far less humane as the chances of getting a clean kill with the first shot is slim so the wounded animal generally crawls off and dies a slow painful death. In this circumstance it would be better to let a couple of hounds loose to track and despatch the fox.
The Act was only introduced as a piece of class legislation to satisfy those who perceived Fox Hunting to be a bunch of toffs chasing down the animals of Farthing Wood. It's really pretty ineffectual and nigh on impossible to police. Where I live in Mid Devon there's a lot of resentment towards the Act which was seen as being pushed through by a metropolitan elite with no understanding of the issue. It's not so much what the Act banned, rather the supposed trampling over those living in the countryside.
I should add I'm not a hunter and have never been hunting but I do live in the countryside and used to have a small holding so have an idea of the issues foxes cause and the difficulties surrounding pest control. I'm not fussed either way if this repeal goes ahead or not as it doesn't affect me.
The Act was only introduced as a piece of class legislation to satisfy those who perceived Fox Hunting to be a bunch of toffs chasing down the animals of Farthing Wood. It's really pretty ineffectual and nigh on impossible to police. Where I live in Mid Devon there's a lot of resentment towards the Act which was seen as being pushed through by a metropolitan elite with no understanding of the issue. It's not so much what the Act banned, rather the supposed trampling over those living in the countryside.
I should add I'm not a hunter and have never been hunting but I do live in the countryside and used to have a small holding so have an idea of the issues foxes cause and the difficulties surrounding pest control. I'm not fussed either way if this repeal goes ahead or not as it doesn't affect me.
The Boxing Day "Hunt" still brings everybody out to view the tradition and spectacle in my local town.
I'm not a hunter either, and have no issue either way whether fox hunting is allowed or not, but it tends to come up in topic every now and then over a drink and the general consensus in my area is that it would be preferred if it were again allowed.
I'm not a hunter either, and have no issue either way whether fox hunting is allowed or not, but it tends to come up in topic every now and then over a drink and the general consensus in my area is that it would be preferred if it were again allowed.
It employs a whole host of people and it "helps" control a pest (how effective it is is debatable) so I have no issue with it. Living in the Kent countryside and being an ex-hunter/pest control on farms means I've shot a fair few foxes and don't subscribe to the "Aww it looks so soft and fluffy on TV" mentality that people with no actual experience of the damage foxes can do usually have.
Still better than poison (which is illegal but still happens) or baiting/trapping which, if not checked daily (and farmers can get busy), can lead to all manner of suffering.
Still better than poison (which is illegal but still happens) or baiting/trapping which, if not checked daily (and farmers can get busy), can lead to all manner of suffering.
I hope we get the hunt back, we need to stop this left field vision that foxes are somehow cute and cuddly. Like badgers, we need a cull. Unfortunately the urban fox is now a real nuisance and the hunt will do nothing there, but it would be nice to see them tackle the towns which are rife with them,
Jonmx said:
better to let a couple of hounds loose to track and despatch the fox.
Gross oversimplification of what actually happens. Less 'track and despatch' and more run it ragged it for miles before cornering it and tearing it to pieces.
You can make the case about foxes being a pest that needs their numbers reduced, but the manner in which it is done has to be humane... and fox hunting is anything but that.
A waste of government cycles. I'm beginning to wonder if May actually wants to win this election with the carp that seems to be coming out about what she's focusing on.
As for foxes...I saw dozens more of the things when I lived in Richmond than I do now out in the countryside. If pest control is a primary aim, perhaps hunts ought go through urban high streets
I'm not a fan of banning stuff left, right and sundry. But as time was spent on it before, just let that decision rest. There is far more important stuff to consider.
As for foxes...I saw dozens more of the things when I lived in Richmond than I do now out in the countryside. If pest control is a primary aim, perhaps hunts ought go through urban high streets
I'm not a fan of banning stuff left, right and sundry. But as time was spent on it before, just let that decision rest. There is far more important stuff to consider.
Murph7355 said:
A waste of government cycles. I'm beginning to wonder if May actually wants to win this election with the carp that seems to be coming out about what she's focusing on.
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By offering the same free vote on the issue that the last two Tory manifestos promised?.
Who is it exactly who is making a big deal out of the issue, her, or the media.
HughiusMaximus said:
Gross oversimplification of what actually happens.
Less 'track and despatch' and more run it ragged it for miles before cornering it and tearing it to pieces.
You can make the case about foxes being a pest that needs their numbers reduced, but the manner in which it is done has to be humane... and fox hunting is anything but that.
+1Less 'track and despatch' and more run it ragged it for miles before cornering it and tearing it to pieces.
You can make the case about foxes being a pest that needs their numbers reduced, but the manner in which it is done has to be humane... and fox hunting is anything but that.
CountZero23 said:
HughiusMaximus said:
Gross oversimplification of what actually happens.
Less 'track and despatch' and more run it ragged it for miles before cornering it and tearing it to pieces.
You can make the case about foxes being a pest that needs their numbers reduced, but the manner in which it is done has to be humane... and fox hunting is anything but that.
+1Less 'track and despatch' and more run it ragged it for miles before cornering it and tearing it to pieces.
You can make the case about foxes being a pest that needs their numbers reduced, but the manner in which it is done has to be humane... and fox hunting is anything but that.
He who pays the piper, calls the tune.
The rich backers of the Conservative Party want a reversal of the hunting ban, then that is what they have paid for, and that is what they should expect.
Theresa May could not give the slightest of two s
ts whether the little people like it or not. When they start stumping up the big money to run the party, then they get a say in what happens.
Until then, they can suck it up.
The rich backers of the Conservative Party want a reversal of the hunting ban, then that is what they have paid for, and that is what they should expect.
Theresa May could not give the slightest of two s
ts whether the little people like it or not. When they start stumping up the big money to run the party, then they get a say in what happens. Until then, they can suck it up.
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