RE: Ford GT: Review

[je777]

How are they going to sell a thousand of these?
If it was the same price as a 488, for example, most would probably still opt for the 488 (OK for a lot of buyers 'or' won't be an issue - but a thousand?). But at double the cost?
This could be one of the worst depreciating cars ever - OK it's won its segment of Le Mans, but it's a Ford, the engine's not special and its price is ludicrous.

[anonymous-user]

je777 said:

How are they going to sell a thousand of these?
If it was the same price as a 488, for example, most would probably still opt for the 488 (OK for a lot of buyers 'or' won't be an issue - but a thousand?). But at double the cost?
This could be one of the worst depreciating cars ever - OK it's won its segment of Le Mans, but it's a Ford, the engine's not special and its price is ludicrous.

Premium pricing and it appears to be sold out already.

[Ahbefive]

je777 said:

How are they going to sell a thousand of these?
If it was the same price as a 488, for example, most would probably still opt for the 488 (OK for a lot of buyers 'or' won't be an issue - but a thousand?). But at double the cost?
This could be one of the worst depreciating cars ever - OK it's won its segment of Le Mans, but it's a Ford, the engine's not special and its price is ludicrous.

I think you massively underestimate Ford GTs and by the Soynds of it Fords in general. How much is an original GT40? or a previous shape GT or an RS200 or a Cosworth or an 8 year old FRS etc etc.

Sporty Fords generally depreciate less and slower than almost everything else.

These cars are already sold out. Just a Ford?? Ford have huge history and racing pedigree. Just a Zonda or just a Koenissegg perhaps.

[Daisy Duke]

garyhun said:

McAndy said:

I've read rumors that they'll be releasing a second batch due to the demand.

I thought it was 750 of the 1000 released and then the remaining 250 get released later.

Correct. The original selection was for 500, with a further 250 who were waitlisted and then subsequently told that they would get a year 3 car. The application process for the remaining 250 year 4 cars is supposed to be opening again early next year.

[gigglebug]

Daisy Duke said:

garyhun said:

McAndy said:

I've read rumors that they'll be releasing a second batch due to the demand.

I thought it was 750 of the 1000 released and then the remaining 250 get released later.

Correct. The original selection was for 500, with a further 250 who were waitlisted and then subsequently told that they would get a year 3 car. The application process for the remaining 250 year 4 cars is supposed to be opening again early next year.

If this is correct then maybe that will be the measure of what the market and the potential customers truly think of the car. If the final allocation are snapped up Ford will have got both the car and the pricing spot on. If they struggle to shift them though it will show that the car is now either underwhelming or overpriced, or both.

[mainaman]

je777 said:

How are they going to sell a thousand of these?
If it was the same price as a 488, for example, most would probably still opt for the 488 (OK for a lot of buyers 'or' won't be an issue - but a thousand?). But at double the cost?
This could be one of the worst depreciating cars ever - OK it's won its segment of Le Mans, but it's a Ford, the engine's not special and its price is ludicrous.

In 5 years the 488 will be 100k,will be cheaper than the 458 in the long term and the Ford GT will probably be worth more than 500 000 pounds.

Comparing the GT with cars like the 488 is like comparing a 911 GT1 with a 996 GT2.

[CABC]

not necessarily relevant, but Capris are up to 50k now.

[Loyly]

Japveesix said:

I agree with this. I'm surprised it's being compared with 488, huracans ec as these are common, relatively dull looking supercars produced in their thousands and in some cases used as daily cars etc.

The Ford looks wildly exotic and is far more in-keeping looks wise with zondas, gumperts and la ferraris.

The engine may not be the most thrilling but it sounds good and the performance clearly isn;t lacking at all.

This was my take of it from the off. This isn't some dowdy Ferrari your old mother could take shopping, it's a demonstration of what can be produced when the brief is 'motorsport first, road car second', and as such, would always be sportier, more hardcore and more exciting than the Ferrari and McLaren competition.

[vz-r_dave]

Amazed at the critisim over the price and comparison with 488's etc..... typical PH comments.....

[pardonmyenglish]

gigglebug said:

If this is correct then maybe that will be the measure of what the market and the potential customers truly think of the car.

Regarding what? Its actual qualities or its potential as a good financial investment?

[lee_erm]

The hate for the GT on here is astonishing. Ford never stood a chance on the Piston Heads forum.

Talk about the tech', not the interior switch gear you utter plebs!

Edited by lee_erm on Monday 15th May 00:03

[gigglebug]

pardonmyenglish said:

gigglebug said:

If this is correct then maybe that will be the measure of what the market and the potential customers truly think of the car.

Regarding what? Its actual qualities or its potential as a good financial investment?

Surely the second part of my post explained? If the last batch of 250 cars are snapped up it will show that neither the pricing or the luke warm on-road reviews have had any effect on the cars potential to be sold so anyone's negative opinion on either will be irrelevant. If Ford however now struggle to sell the final allocation it would probably show that those who would have been interested now feel that it is either now too expensive or too much of a compromise when compared to the competition.

[HighwayStar]

lee_erm said:

The hate for the GT on here is astonishing. Ford never stood a chance on the Piston Heads forum.

Talk about the tech', not the interior switch gear you utter plebs!

Edited by lee_erm on Monday 15th May 00:03

Lol... Dictator Lee Erm
I don't care that it's a Ford. They make some great cars. I don't like the look of it so the interior, the tech, what it's capable of doesn't matter. I admire what they've done but if I had the money it would go on a car that had more room than a sardine tin and I could use on the road. Brilliant on the track, rubbish on the road.
That's what i think, sorry I haven't followed your instruction

[simonrockman]

http://sniffpetrol.com/2015/01/13/new-ford-gt-engi...

[Roundm]

All the conversation around the engine being crude and wrong for a supercar is reminiscent of the complaints about the XJ220 having a turbo V6 (albeit in that case derived from the engine in a Metro - even if that was a 6R4!). bloody effective and allowed fancy underbody aero even in 1990 (1400kg of downforce at 200mph)

sounds familiar.....

[PGNSagaris]

Looks amazing. Would have one in a heartbeat.

I mean just look at it....

[erics]

It is stunning to look at no doubt about it. However, modern supercars are superior to the ones from the past because of their usability in the real world.

This seems massively compromised on that front. Was watching a review from a tester saying how uncomfortable the seats were before of the circles.

No boot space to talk about.

It reminds me of the cars from the 2005 era like a carrera gt, or even some of the previous hypercar generation like ferrari Enzo or Jaguar XJ 220.

I don't see much progress / innovation here. More like backwards approach to things.

As a car in isolation, it's just fantastic.

But factor in the flaws and the comedy price and i suddenly find it very uninteresting.

[anonymous-user]

NDA said:

There was something a bit special about the last version.....

That just looks right.

[cib24]

erics said:

It is stunning to look at no doubt about it. However, modern supercars are superior to the ones from the past because of their usability in the real world.

This seems massively compromised on that front. Was watching a review from a tester saying how uncomfortable the seats were before of the circles.

No boot space to talk about.

It reminds me of the cars from the 2005 era like a carrera gt, or even some of the previous hypercar generation like ferrari Enzo or Jaguar XJ 220.

I don't see much progress / innovation here. More like backwards approach to things.

As a car in isolation, it's just fantastic.

But factor in the flaws and the comedy price and i suddenly find it very uninteresting.

It doesn't really matter. These won't be driven. In 10 years every car will have less than 2,500 miles on it anyway. They won't be tracked. At most they will be flown into London during the summer and driven at 5 mph around Knightsbridge and parked in squat mode for cool photo opportunities.

It simply doesn't matter how cars of this price category drive. The looks matter the most and this new Ford GT has it in spades.

[anniesdad]

I quite like the fact that it's sparse inside and the switchgear is more function than form. Somebody posted a link to a video earlier that shows how you move the pedal box, just pull a strap on the doorsill, no electric motors required.