Modern Cars- No Character!?

[Cpb1702]

Struggling to get excited by new cars and been looking for a while. M4, S5, 718 Cayman, etc. Been trying them all.

Are cars getting like sports stars no personality no character!?

[Darryl247W]

It seems a common reaction to modern cars : no involvement.
I commute 300 miles a week and I'm having a blast splitting it between a 10 year old MX-5 and a 14 year old Elise.

[ambuletz]

people want to be seen owning/driving a sports car but they want it to feel comfy/audi-ish.

[Plate spinner]

The average new car buyer wants safety, gadgets, mpg, low co2, aggressive looks, refinement, isolation from the outside world, light controls with minimal feedback and an ability to last for 4 years max.

And so that it what manufactures provide I guess.

[LordHaveMurci]

Saw my 1st M4 on the road recently, sounded wrong & looked like it was trying far too hard.

Once upon a time a new M car would have been quite an event, this left me cold

[anonymous-user]

Cpb1702 said:

Are cars getting like sports stars no personality no character!?

....said the bloke with no cars listed on his profile.

[av185]

Cpb1702 said:

Struggling to get excited by new cars and been looking for a while. M4, S5, 718 Cayman, etc. Been trying them all.

Are cars getting like sports stars no personality no character!?

Turbos are the problem.

Drive a 981 Porsche or an e 90 92 M3 and all will become clear.

Good investment too.

[ian2144]

Cpb1702 said:

Struggling to get excited by new cars and been looking for a while. M4, S5, 718 Cayman, etc. Been trying them all.

Are cars getting like sports stars no personality no character!?

Nothing wrong with the above cars, all very quick and capable. The problem is, to get any feedback from them you need to be traveling at an indecent speed.......not ideal on the public highway.

Get yourself a Toyota GT86 whether you love it or not, it's got character and it's current....!

[Big GT]

Characters usually have some vulnerability. Modern performance cars are too accomplished, efficient, reliable, quiet, comfortable!
The German cars you mention are an example of this dull point and click motoring.

That why modern classics of the recent era are being viewed as the pinnacle of motoring. Hence prices are increasing for previous M cars, 911's TVR's, Ferrari's and the like.

[Alpinestars]

ian2144 said:

Cpb1702 said:

Struggling to get excited by new cars and been looking for a while. M4, S5, 718 Cayman, etc. Been trying them all.

Are cars getting like sports stars no personality no character!?

Nothing wrong with the above cars, all very quick and capable. The problem is, to get any feedback from them you need to be traveling at an indecent speed.......not ideal on the public highway.

Get yourself a Toyota GT86 whether you love it or not, it's got character and it's current....!

It's not just that, in many cases e steering kills the involvement of most new cars, and to a lesser extent, flappy paddles and dreadful suspension.

[JesusSaves]

LordHaveMurci said:

Saw my 1st M4 on the road recently, sounded wrong & looked like it was trying far too hard.

Once upon a time a new M car would have been quite an event, this left me cold

Only recently?

You don't get out much then?

[98elise]

Have you tried an Evora?

[DoubleD]

ian2144 said:

Nothing wrong with the above cars, all very quick and capable. The problem is, to get any feedback from them you need to be traveling at an indecent speed.......not ideal on the public highway.

Get yourself a Toyota GT86 whether you love it or not, it's got character and it's current....!

Apart from the dull engine

[TheDrBrian]

DoubleD said:

ian2144 said:

Nothing wrong with the above cars, all very quick and capable. The problem is, to get any feedback from them you need to be traveling at an indecent speed.......not ideal on the public highway.

Get yourself a Toyota GT86 whether you love it or not, it's got character and it's current....!

Apart from the dull engine

Get an Mx5 then.

[bloomen]

Cars are slowly tailing off in terms of pure enjoyability. The peak for me was the 80s/90s. There's lot of stuff from back then I'd like to own.

Even the bread and butter cars had more poise and appeal. I've been driving loads of different hire cars recently and they all seem to have the same rubbery gearchange and ride.

[DUMBO100]

I'm currently using a Renault Megane 1.5 Diesel for work duties. It has far too much driver involvement

[ian2144]

TheDrBrian said:

DoubleD said:

ian2144 said:

Nothing wrong with the above cars, all very quick and capable. The problem is, to get any feedback from them you need to be traveling at an indecent speed.......not ideal on the public highway.

Get yourself a Toyota GT86 whether you love it or not, it's got character and it's current....!

Apart from the dull engine

Get an Mx5 then.

I did look at the MX5, boot space is diabolical and for a two week continental tour, out of the question....!

[mikefacel]

ian2144 said:

I did look at the MX5, boot space is diabolical and for a two week continental tour, out of the question....!

[ian2144]

mikefacel said:

That just, reiterated my thoughts......MX5 boot space not big enough...!

[V8RX7]

New cars haven't been exciting for many years - they are too competent combined with the speed limits being lowered and rigorously enforced.