RE: Audi RS7 vs Porsche Panamera Turbo
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Seriously, this is why we're constantly stuck in this numbers war of the current age.
As an enthusiast, should we not be applauding the fact that despite the figures of these two cars, the Audi produces more smiles for significantly less money? Why are reviews not questioning the validity of all the extra bells and whistles that cars like this simply don't need, but are added to pad the price and win top trumps?
Oh, because they wouldn't be given cars to review again.
Surely as enthusiasts we should be looking past the guff and searching for the fun. That's what's lacking most in modern motoring.
As an enthusiast, should we not be applauding the fact that despite the figures of these two cars, the Audi produces more smiles for significantly less money? Why are reviews not questioning the validity of all the extra bells and whistles that cars like this simply don't need, but are added to pad the price and win top trumps?
Oh, because they wouldn't be given cars to review again.
Surely as enthusiasts we should be looking past the guff and searching for the fun. That's what's lacking most in modern motoring.
DeltaEvo2 said:
Over £90,000 the Audi and over £113,000 the Porsche. Top speed 190m/h, 0-62 in 3.8 the Audi and 3.9 secs.
Giulia Quadrifoglio Verde, top speed 191m/h, 0-62 in 3.9 secs...fully specced out including carbon ceramic brakes £70,000. Sold.
The Giulia quadrifoliofolololool would also be on my list - but wearing my ultra sensible shoes, I would go further and choose the new RS3 saloon/sedan. The 2.5 TFSI sounds fantastic (arguably a better sound than a V8) outputs 294 kW (400 hp) with 480 Nm (354.0 lb-ft) of torque and 0 to 62 in 4.1 seconds.Giulia Quadrifoglio Verde, top speed 191m/h, 0-62 in 3.9 secs...fully specced out including carbon ceramic brakes £70,000. Sold.
There are 4 doors, a boot and you can actually park it with enough room to exit the vehicle. Pricing is rumoured to be circa £50K - so half the price of the Porsche and RS7 with arguably twice the fun!
kambites said:
There can't be many Porsche/Audi twin-tests which come to the conclusion that the Porsche has the better interior and the Audi is more fun to drive. 
Not if you compared the 2017 digital interior (virtual cockpit).Hence why the test is a bit daft. Old v new tech shockerResolutionary said:
'Bang & Olufsen Advanced sound system for £6,300.00'
Audi can't seriously be suggesting the standard sound system is that rubbish? Or perhaps you don't get one at all in standard guise. You could purchase and have installed an absolutely stellar aftermarket system, with change.
this has been an option since this version of the RS6 launchedAudi can't seriously be suggesting the standard sound system is that rubbish? Or perhaps you don't get one at all in standard guise. You could purchase and have installed an absolutely stellar aftermarket system, with change.
you could get a top end home cinema system for that
You know the funny thing about these 'fast' cars? I've never seen one actually being driven fast.........
The performance of these cars is no soooo far from what an average driver can use or road conditions allow that they are really just big, expensive, penis extensions............ ;-)
The performance of these cars is no soooo far from what an average driver can use or road conditions allow that they are really just big, expensive, penis extensions............ ;-)
If I had that much money to spend on a family car then RS6 Avant would probably get my vote
I have seen one do a couple of track days at Castle Combe , sounds like it is ripping teh universe apart when it goes past at full chat
Though the Maserati Quattroporte would complicate things considerably
I have seen one do a couple of track days at Castle Combe , sounds like it is ripping teh universe apart when it goes past at full chat
Though the Maserati Quattroporte would complicate things considerably
Edited by binnerboy on Thursday 25th May 13:44
Meridius said:
Whenever I see an RS7 they always look a bit awkward, the back is all droopy like a fat person lost weight but still has all the baggy skin.
Great point, and to add to it, why would anybody spend 100K on that shed of an Audi!!!It reminds me of a rover SD1, it sits poorly on its wheels, and when I spend 100k on a car I want it to be special and not look like something that can be purchased for 15k on a 2.0 Tdi format from Mega Cars R Us.
RS6 (though I contradict myself) just makes me smile, its a monster, and sits well on its wheels.
Porsche looks better now too.
I'd have this...MUCH better looking in my opinion, the best part of £70k cheaper and will be every bit as fast as both of these cars.
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
You'd have to be monumentally silly to buy either brand new.
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
You'd have to be monumentally silly to buy either brand new.
DeltaEvo2 said:
Over £90,000 the Audi and over £113,000 the Porsche. Top speed 190m/h, 0-62 in 3.8 the Audi and 3.9 secs.
Giulia Quadrifoglio Verde, top speed 191m/h, 0-62 in 3.9 secs...fully specced out including carbon ceramic brakes £70,000. Sold.
I do not believe any sane person would choose the Alfa over one of these, and I cant see anyone actually specking the alfa to £70k. Giulia Quadrifoglio Verde, top speed 191m/h, 0-62 in 3.9 secs...fully specced out including carbon ceramic brakes £70,000. Sold.
This is going to sound odd but, whilst I'm not sure the RS7 is a good-looking car, I think it looks great!
The Panamera, on the other hand, just doesn't do it for me.
There's a black RS7 locally and it sounds fantastic - he seems incapable of driving it slowly.
So, I understand the Panamera is the better car in this test but, completely irrationally, I'd rather the RS7. I think it's the hooligan aspect of it.
The Panamera, on the other hand, just doesn't do it for me.
There's a black RS7 locally and it sounds fantastic - he seems incapable of driving it slowly.
So, I understand the Panamera is the better car in this test but, completely irrationally, I'd rather the RS7. I think it's the hooligan aspect of it.
PORSCHE PANAMERA TURBO
Engine: 3,996cc, twin-turbocharged V8
Transmission: 8-speed PDK, four-wheel drive
Power (hp): 550@5,750-6,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 568@1,960-4,500rpm
0-62mph: 3.8 seconds
Top speed: 190mph
Weight: 2,070kg (EU with driver)
MPG: 330.4
CO2: 212g/km
I have to say I am really impressed with the MPG of the Porsche. lol
Engine: 3,996cc, twin-turbocharged V8
Transmission: 8-speed PDK, four-wheel drive
Power (hp): 550@5,750-6,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 568@1,960-4,500rpm
0-62mph: 3.8 seconds
Top speed: 190mph
Weight: 2,070kg (EU with driver)
MPG: 330.4
CO2: 212g/km
I have to say I am really impressed with the MPG of the Porsche. lol
geeks said:
TXG399 said:
troc said:
A brand new and £30000 more expensive car is better than a 4 year old model. How terribly unexpected
That was my immediate reaction too! Not quite sure how the article can gloss over such a substantial price difference so happily.I'll take the RS7, with a fiesta ST for MrsTigger1 to go to the shops and spend the remaining 10k on.
I had the use of a 2015 model RS7 for a month. Prior to that I'd had use of a Bentley Continental GT Speed and a Porsche Macan Turbo and the RS7 was the only one I would consider buying with my own money. The noise it makes is intoxicating, something no EV can ever achieve, you don't have to drive it fast, just get there quickly. As for the Panamara, even the new version has still got to be the ugliest Porsche ever designed.
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