Drivers that mess up then shout abuse
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Had 2 of these yesterday:
First, woman was blocking exit from retail park and realised her mistake, bs Jed up a bit so I could squeeze through and off in the other direction. She held her hand, I did the same, both smiled and got in with our day.
Second, alive ride Tesco delivery van saw me coming but didn't want to sit in the queue he was in so drive completely into my side of the road and drove at me, then shouted obscenities (when I used the horn to let him know of my presence
)
He got reported, for being a dangerous muppet in a company stickered up van......
First, woman was blocking exit from retail park and realised her mistake, bs Jed up a bit so I could squeeze through and off in the other direction. She held her hand, I did the same, both smiled and got in with our day.
Second, alive ride Tesco delivery van saw me coming but didn't want to sit in the queue he was in so drive completely into my side of the road and drove at me, then shouted obscenities (when I used the horn to let him know of my presence
)He got reported, for being a dangerous muppet in a company stickered up van......
Is it not just symptomatic of people's attitudes these days though? It seems few people can accept responsibility for their actions these days, everything is always someone else's fault, and if they make a mistake on the road it was "Because of X, and you should have known that, it wasn't my fault and how dare you make me aware of my mistake!"
Brigand said:
Is it not just symptomatic of people's attitudes these days though? It seems few people can accept responsibility for their actions these days, everything is always someone else's fault, and if they make a mistake on the road it was "Because of X, and you should have known that, it wasn't my fault and how dare you make me aware of my mistake!"
I think a lot of it is down to how shifty the insurers have gotten over the past decade. Always trying to blame the other party in the event of an accident to save the coffers. If you can blame someone else, the fault is theirs apparently.I had this yesterday! I have just been given a new car on hire as somebody hit my car on Wednesday and was just getting used to the clutch etc. Drove carefully out of a junction (in a residential area) and managed to stall it (stupid of me) and didn't realise the car automatically restarts! Man drives right up to me after accelerating at me hard and shouts at me for a good minute calling me every name under the sun. I apologised as soon as he pulled up but it didn't stop him from having a right go. Nasty looking individual and looked like he was looking for an excuse to shout at someone. It seems people are out there to purposely be angry and not pleasant for those on the receiving end!
If I've made a balls-up then I normally react apologetically - hands up, hazards on, and then wind the window down to apologise if the opportunity presents itself. It's happened twice in the last year and the other drivers were understanding (one straight away said fair, thanks and I let the other call me a f
king before apologising, after which he calmed down).
I see angry people all the time around London who seem to just be commuting for a fight, work being secondary. A few weeks ago I was driving past a T-junction on the other side of the road and there were two cars parked quite close to each other, with both drivers out of their cars mid-fistfight. I couldn't quite pull over but there was nobody behind me, so I stopped and shouted at them to stop fighting. They both looked at me, looked at each other, simmered down and went to the roadside. There was a Police car parked in a layby over the next hill (not even a minute away) so as the road was still clear behind me, I pulled alongside them and said they may want to just do a quick u-turn and go and play referee as there are two angry drivers at the last layby.
Today I saw something similar, I'd just finished shopping in our local Tesco Express and was walking out to the car. As is often the case, the car park was full. There was a car trying to parallel park in a quite tight space, with another car waiting behind, and another one behind that too. The car park is a single lane so nobody could go anywhere until the parallel parker had finished their move.
The passengers of car #2 decided to jump out while they were waiting, to which the woman driving car #3 blasted the horn. The two passengers both looked back at car 3, pointed at the car in front and shouted "it's fking full!". I didn't see what the response from car 3 was but given the reaction of car 2, it wasn't apologetic.
I was parked in a space that car #3 could easily have reversed into. I instead decided to hang on until car #1 had made its maneouver, and cars #2 and #3 had done a loop of the car park, at which point I stepped in front of car 2 and told the driver that he was welcome to my space as I was about to leave. The driver of car 3 looked incredibly pissed off after watching me drive out and #2 drive straight in. Karma works in mysterious ways - I'd have happily offered car 3 my space if the driver wasn't acting so entitled.
king before apologising, after which he calmed down).I see angry people all the time around London who seem to just be commuting for a fight, work being secondary. A few weeks ago I was driving past a T-junction on the other side of the road and there were two cars parked quite close to each other, with both drivers out of their cars mid-fistfight. I couldn't quite pull over but there was nobody behind me, so I stopped and shouted at them to stop fighting. They both looked at me, looked at each other, simmered down and went to the roadside. There was a Police car parked in a layby over the next hill (not even a minute away) so as the road was still clear behind me, I pulled alongside them and said they may want to just do a quick u-turn and go and play referee as there are two angry drivers at the last layby.
Today I saw something similar, I'd just finished shopping in our local Tesco Express and was walking out to the car. As is often the case, the car park was full. There was a car trying to parallel park in a quite tight space, with another car waiting behind, and another one behind that too. The car park is a single lane so nobody could go anywhere until the parallel parker had finished their move.
The passengers of car #2 decided to jump out while they were waiting, to which the woman driving car #3 blasted the horn. The two passengers both looked back at car 3, pointed at the car in front and shouted "it's f
king full!". I didn't see what the response from car 3 was but given the reaction of car 2, it wasn't apologetic.I was parked in a space that car #3 could easily have reversed into. I instead decided to hang on until car #1 had made its maneouver, and cars #2 and #3 had done a loop of the car park, at which point I stepped in front of car 2 and told the driver that he was welcome to my space as I was about to leave. The driver of car 3 looked incredibly pissed off after watching me drive out and #2 drive straight in. Karma works in mysterious ways - I'd have happily offered car 3 my space if the driver wasn't acting so entitled.
Like many others, I stick my hand up when I make a mistake, no point being a nob about it. I will toot the horn if someone's about to pull in front of me, and occasionally I get a moron who will respond with gestures. I tend to just laugh at them.
In Scotland a couple of years ago had a bike do a really sketchy overtake causing my mum who was driving to take evasive action. Having been given a toot on the horn he stopped, got off the bike and walked over. I think he had focused on my mother, a little old lady and had failed to notice me who was significantly bigger than him in the passenger seat. I also got out, and was actually far more civilised than I would have liked to have been. I pointed out that if my mother hadn't braked and swerved as she did, then he would most likely be lying in bits waiting for an ambulance or an undertaker. Apologies made we moved on. I recall Kenneth Noye whenever I see some road rage idiot and realise it's just not worth it. Not sure why I got out of the car on this occasion but I got away with it.
My father had the opposite a couple of years ago when he was cut up at a roundabout and bellowed out of the window at the offending Micra calling the driver a 'brothel bred bd'. The Micra caught up with him a little while later and the aged vicar inside apologised profusely stating that he had indeed misjudged the roundabout and it had been my father's right of way. My dad was lost for words!
In Scotland a couple of years ago had a bike do a really sketchy overtake causing my mum who was driving to take evasive action. Having been given a toot on the horn he stopped, got off the bike and walked over. I think he had focused on my mother, a little old lady and had failed to notice me who was significantly bigger than him in the passenger seat. I also got out, and was actually far more civilised than I would have liked to have been. I pointed out that if my mother hadn't braked and swerved as she did, then he would most likely be lying in bits waiting for an ambulance or an undertaker. Apologies made we moved on. I recall Kenneth Noye whenever I see some road rage idiot and realise it's just not worth it. Not sure why I got out of the car on this occasion but I got away with it.
My father had the opposite a couple of years ago when he was cut up at a roundabout and bellowed out of the window at the offending Micra calling the driver a 'brothel bred b
d'. The Micra caught up with him a little while later and the aged vicar inside apologised profusely stating that he had indeed misjudged the roundabout and it had been my father's right of way. My dad was lost for words!I don't do or say anything when people mess up, because you simply don't know if that wker who just cut you up is a tooled up psychopath or not. Stick your hands up in a shrugging motion and he gets out and shoots you in the face for daring to say anything and you're the dead person who lost the pointless arguement.
Cyclists however...they don't have room to carry guns so they are free game.
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ker who just cut you up is a tooled up psychopath or not. Stick your hands up in a shrugging motion and he gets out and shoots you in the face for daring to say anything and you're the dead person who lost the pointless arguement.Cyclists however...they don't have room to carry guns so they are free game.
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)uuf361 said:
Second, alive ride Tesco delivery van saw me coming but didn't want to sit in the queue he was in so drive completely into my side of the road and drove at me, then shouted obscenities (when I used the horn to let him know of my presence )
He got reported, for being a dangerous muppet in a company stickered up van......
Impressive OP! )He got reported, for being a dangerous muppet in a company stickered up van......
What is an "alive ride Tesco delivery van" anyway?Due to a change of marital arrangements I ended up driving a company stickered van for a year and a half or so! You get so many minutes to do a certain distance, 2 minutes for the handover on the doorstep, need to make 4/5 deliveries in an hour, but then we get w*nkers like you - thanks!
And if you don't meet the targets it's time for a disciplinary - flat-out is the only option!
I have just had this experience while out on lunch. A BMW 5 Series driver cut me up on a mini-roundabout. I sounded my horn but instead of apologizing for his mistake, the driver stopped blocking me on the roundabout, wound down his window and proceeded to shout abuse at me.
He shouted out that the lane he thought I was exiting to was full with traffic and I would have blocked the roundabout – ironically as that was what he was now doing. I pointed out to him that there was two lanes exiting the roundabout and I wanted the second lane which was free of traffic. On realizing this he wheel-spun off while calling me a wker.
It really wound me up, if he had simply put his hand up to apologize it would have completely diffused the situation.
He shouted out that the lane he thought I was exiting to was full with traffic and I would have blocked the roundabout – ironically as that was what he was now doing. I pointed out to him that there was two lanes exiting the roundabout and I wanted the second lane which was free of traffic. On realizing this he wheel-spun off while calling me a w
ker.It really wound me up, if he had simply put his hand up to apologize it would have completely diffused the situation.
The male owner / driver of the blue VW Touran at my local Sainsbury's this lunchtime fits this thread well.
He drove in pretty quickly and decided to ignore the bright yellow (and clearly signposted) height restriction barrier that's been installed due to the increased traveller activity in recent weeks. As a result he proceeded to smash the 3 family bikes, that were attached to the roof, straight off the rack and into the road behind him along with bits of the rack itself. Thankfully the driver of the MX5 that was behind him had left a decent gap to stop in so they didn't land on her car.
Having now blocked the entrance with the bikes, the anus in his Touran decides to drive into the main car park and dump himself over 3 disabled bays whilst he casually walked back to claim the bikes and what's left of the rack itself. Upon seeing various people watching him, including those now stuck in a queue to enter the car park, he decided to fly into a massive fit of rage calling the people watching him, including those with young children, a selection of various swear words
From what I could see the lady MX5 driver behind him had a dashcam in her windscreen so with any luck it might yet appear on YouTube
He drove in pretty quickly and decided to ignore the bright yellow (and clearly signposted) height restriction barrier that's been installed due to the increased traveller activity in recent weeks. As a result he proceeded to smash the 3 family bikes, that were attached to the roof, straight off the rack and into the road behind him along with bits of the rack itself. Thankfully the driver of the MX5 that was behind him had left a decent gap to stop in so they didn't land on her car.
Having now blocked the entrance with the bikes, the anus in his Touran decides to drive into the main car park and dump himself over 3 disabled bays whilst he casually walked back to claim the bikes and what's left of the rack itself. Upon seeing various people watching him, including those now stuck in a queue to enter the car park, he decided to fly into a massive fit of rage calling the people watching him, including those with young children, a selection of various swear words
From what I could see the lady MX5 driver behind him had a dashcam in her windscreen so with any luck it might yet appear on YouTube
Last year, going round a 4 lane roundabout, I veered into the lane next to me. Held my hand up in the mirror as way of apology to the car behind me at the red light 10 feet later; he was about 20 feet behind me, but still, I lane jumped by accident. For some reason, he horned once we'd came to a stop. So I waved again. He horned longer. He then tail gated me as close as he could on the next stretch of road, refusing to overtake. I was doing 40 in a 40, so wasn't speeding up.
Odd animal.
Odd animal.
Edited by Jonno02 on Tuesday 30th May 16:08
You mean people don't always behave like this??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTKL-WERvWw
"No anger"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTKL-WERvWw
"No anger"
I was on a dual-carriageway doing probably slightly over the NSL I'm not ashamed to admit. Come up behind a little van doing probably 45-50mph in the right-hand lane. Flash my lights as the road is otherwise deserted. No reaction. I undertake, such is the difference in speed.
Fast forward I'm stuck at a red light about a mile up the road. Matey in the van only pulls up, onto the grass central reservation and starts spitting feathers.
My windows are up, as are his. I couldn't hear a word! Then the light went green.
Nutter, didn't see him again.
Fast forward I'm stuck at a red light about a mile up the road. Matey in the van only pulls up, onto the grass central reservation and starts spitting feathers.
My windows are up, as are his. I couldn't hear a word! Then the light went green.
Nutter, didn't see him again.
The problem is, how do you actually say sorry if/when you make an error? Other than either stupidly/dangerously getting out of your car to apologise or waiting for said person to pull up beside you and windows down, which doesn't/can't always happen.
So, you can also try and mime sorry or do some fancy sign-language or various hand gestures but you're probably not going to get your point across. Either that or they get taken the wrong way, which i have also seen happen.
It's just something that i've been thinking about as i have also noticed other people's refusal to say sorry or even give out abuse out, even when they're in the wrong. It is extremely annoying but i'm just wondering what you can actually do when it does happen.
So, you can also try and mime sorry or do some fancy sign-language or various hand gestures but you're probably not going to get your point across. Either that or they get taken the wrong way, which i have also seen happen.
It's just something that i've been thinking about as i have also noticed other people's refusal to say sorry or even give out abuse out, even when they're in the wrong. It is extremely annoying but i'm just wondering what you can actually do when it does happen.
culpz said:
The problem is, how do you actually say sorry if/when you make an error?
It is extremely annoying but i'm just wondering what you can actually do when it does happen.
Myself and everyone I've ever come across raise a single hand in the air.It is extremely annoying but i'm just wondering what you can actually do when it does happen.
I've never had anyone mistake it for anything other than sorry.
Mr Tidy said:
Impressive OP! What is an "alive ride Tesco delivery van" anyway?
Due to a change of marital arrangements I ended up driving a company stickered van for a year and a half or so! You get so many minutes to do a certain distance, 2 minutes for the handover on the doorstep, need to make 4/5 deliveries in an hour, but then we get w*nkers like you - thanks!
And if you don't meet the targets it's time for a disciplinary - flat-out is the only option!
Yeah, cause the OP was in the wrong hey. What is an "alive ride Tesco delivery van" anyway?Due to a change of marital arrangements I ended up driving a company stickered van for a year and a half or so! You get so many minutes to do a certain distance, 2 minutes for the handover on the doorstep, need to make 4/5 deliveries in an hour, but then we get w*nkers like you - thanks!
And if you don't meet the targets it's time for a disciplinary - flat-out is the only option!
Please feel free to endanger everyone else on the road going flat out just so long as you make your deliveries. Hopefully you get reported sometime too..
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