Sold a car privately - COURT ACTION

[Pommygranite]

Bookmarked so I can't return in a few weeks to find out the case fell apart as expected.

[Funk]

saaby93 said:

RobDown said:

The only thing that worries me slightly with this case is the OP describing how the car drove faultlessly etc. It shouldn't matter etc etc but maybe the wrong judge on the wrong day?

Without going back and reading the sellers exact words, at the time of sale wasnt it as good as he claimed?
it was only afterwards that some faults appeared, but thats what can happen when you buy anything.
If its new or from a trader there are guarantees. Privately there arent, which is why its cheaper

The guy put 2-3k miles on it, THEN complained there's an issue...!

If this doesn't get thrown out then the magistrate/judge needs their head examined, but OP it'd be worth getting proper advice on this lest you do something daft and lose.

[Sheepshanks]

saaby93 said:

vikingaero said:

blueg33 said:

Fast Bug said:

I'd be amazed not disappointed!

I am sure I read about a similar case that found in favour of the buyer.

The disappointment will be because we will be seeing a worrying drift towards supporting vexatious claimants.

^This.

There have been 3 disappointing cases on MSE where people who sold cars and a decade+ old motorhome, were taken to Court and surprisingly lost. The comments in support were much like on this thread: "buyer beware/sold as seen/caveat emptor/they'll never stand a chance" etc. And the buyers convinced the judge and won. I'd argue that there's a little of the judge getting out on the wrong side that day but also judges seem to be switching a little against all this caveat emptor bullst.

Without going into those isnt that where the seller is trying to get rid of a pile of junk and dresses it up so it appears to be gold

The most remarkable one I can remember was a car with an alleged dodgy gear selector. By the time it got to court the buyer had sold the car. There was no evidence the buyer had had the car fixed.

The Judge awarded the buyer damages and based the amount on the sellers estimate of how much it would cost to fix IF the alleged fault actually existed!

[Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah]

Vibes said:

Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:

evoivboy said:

Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:

Posting just for updates. I'm interested to see how one of these cases concludes.

OP, please do not bugger off/delete the thread etc before conclusion, like the guy in a parallel case with a Range with a busted gearbox. It reflected badly on him IMO, and probably wound anyone contributing to the thread right up.

Wondered what happened to that, it was deleted?

the OP requested it be shut down

Thanks for the update. I spent *hours* looking for it. Was there an outcome, did he win? I was invested in that thread and was rooting for him.

No outcome. I recall some were pressuring him RE if he was looking to be a car trader (he'd previously penned a thread - think of a car dealer name for a 'friend' ) and he got bothered and asked the mods to shut it down. Very annoying.

[Sheepshanks]

Vibes said:

Thanks for the update. I spent *hours* looking for it. Was there an outcome, did he win? I was invested in that thread and was rooting for him.

We all get very excited when there's lot of back and forth but If these things do go to court it's quite normal for it to take 6-9mths or even longer, so there's typically many months where nothing happens.

I'm always amused by comments to buyers on here with a dispute that they should sue, as if it's going to take 5 minutes to get their money back.

[Du1point8]

Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:

Vibes said:

Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:

evoivboy said:

Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:

Posting just for updates. I'm interested to see how one of these cases concludes.

OP, please do not bugger off/delete the thread etc before conclusion, like the guy in a parallel case with a Range with a busted gearbox. It reflected badly on him IMO, and probably wound anyone contributing to the thread right up.

Wondered what happened to that, it was deleted?

the OP requested it be shut down

Thanks for the update. I spent *hours* looking for it. Was there an outcome, did he win? I was invested in that thread and was rooting for him.

No outcome. I recall some were pressuring him RE if he was looking to be a car trader (he'd previously penned a thread - think of a car dealer name for a 'friend' ) and he got bothered and asked the mods to shut it down. Very annoying.

sounds similar to this one.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

[J.C...]

Du1point8 said:

sounds similar to this one.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Someone on that thread is clearly the Mrs X off this thread....

Either that or they've misread the thread title as "Who Can Act The Biggest Sanctimonious Helmet On The Entire Internet - Big Cash Prizes For The Winner"

[bmw320ci]

J.C... said:

Du1point8 said:

sounds similar to this one.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Someone on that thread is clearly the Mrs X off this thread....

Either that or they've misread the thread title as "Who Can Act The Biggest Sanctimonious Helmet On The Entire Internet - Big Cash Prizes For The Winner"

Love this quote
Regular traders trying to make an honest living and standing over their cars are getting stiffed because they are having to compete on price with these "driveway traders" who dont pay tax, VAT, insurance or stand over their cars.

When did car traders become honest!!!

Its the biggest trade for money laundering and crime going!!

[carl_w]

Isn't today the day of the court case?

[RZ1]

interested to hear the outcome

[Funk]

Hope the OP updates even if things don't go how we/he hope.

[Andehh]

Fingers crossed, genuinely curious to see how this goes. All the best to OP out there.....

[DaveH23]

carl_w said:

Isn't today the day of the court case?

Just re read the first page and it's tomorrow.

Hope it goes in the OP's favour.

[The Mad Monk]

DaveH23 said:

carl_w said:

Isn't today the day of the court case?

Just re read the first page and it's tomorrow.

Hope it goes in the OP's favour.

You will just have to wait and see.

[muussaah]

It is indeed tomorrow, bit nervous now and I keep telling myself it'll be alright... hope the best but expect the worst eh chaps

[lord trumpton]

Good luck OP

Would be a tragedy if this kind of thing became more prevalent!

[mikey k]

Good luck OP

[AmosMoses]

Good luck chap!

[TommoAE86]

Good luck OP!

[godskitchen]

Good luck OP, stand your ground, don't be afraid to speak up, stay calm and polite but get your point across.