The BAD PARKING thread [vol4]

[Osinjak]

Horace Van Khute said:

HTP99 said:

If this was a pedestrian crossing would you also think it's ok to park where the arrow is?

Lol! How is that even remotely relevant? Dear God, I really do fear for some people's thinking on this site.

[HTP99]

WarrenB said:

LetsTryAgain said:

PrinceRupert said:

I mean why ask for a view if you are going to ignore the majority that agree with her. If someone regularly parked that close to my drive I'd probably politely ask if they could park a few feet back. Sounds like you responded rather badly to the request.

It was initially parked way too close to 'her' drive.
So what if she *could* get on and off, reversing or driving.
That was made more difficult.

I'd be doing what she did.

To be fair I can see it from both points of view. OP doesn't want to take up more space than he needs to (I have this issue living on a terraced street, where just parking another foot forward frees up another space), yet doing so slightly inconveniences the woman who can't get off her drive easily.

I don't think anyone is right or wrong.

Maybe I was too close, I don't feel that I was, I've always parked like that and this is the first time it has been made an issue to me. That drive is used by the woman roughly once a week, the road is used by others to park, every day, and I know how hard it can be, to get parked on the road by everyone, I'm going to continue to park as I've always done, with consideration for the majority.

[DoubleD]

HTP99 said:

WarrenB said:

LetsTryAgain said:

PrinceRupert said:

I mean why ask for a view if you are going to ignore the majority that agree with her. If someone regularly parked that close to my drive I'd probably politely ask if they could park a few feet back. Sounds like you responded rather badly to the request.

It was initially parked way too close to 'her' drive.
So what if she *could* get on and off, reversing or driving.
That was made more difficult.

I'd be doing what she did.

To be fair I can see it from both points of view. OP doesn't want to take up more space than he needs to (I have this issue living on a terraced street, where just parking another foot forward frees up another space), yet doing so slightly inconveniences the woman who can't get off her drive easily.

I don't think anyone is right or wrong.

Maybe I was too close, I don't feel that I was, I've always parked like that and this is the first time it has been made an issue to me. That drive is used by the woman roughly once a week, the road is used by others to park, every day, and I know how hard it can be, to get parked on the road by everyone, I'm going to continue to park as I've always done, with consideration for the majority.

She has off road parking, you should park in a way that allows her easy access. If the majority are parking on the road then it is up to them to park in a decent way on the road.

Im afraid like almost everyone else has said, you have got this wrong.

[Desiderata]

HTP99 said:

Where I am now, the arrow is where is where I was.

You do realise that if you leave your car parked there, it will be illegally parked after "lighting up time"? I know most people ignore this rule, but you're not actually allowed to be parked facing the flow of traffic after dark.

[Vipers]

PrinceRupert said:

Yes I do, and normally reverse into my drive, but will go in forwards occasionally if I want to get the car jacked up (as per my other posts not very well sometimes as I managed to scrape the car down my gate post yesterday ). If a van parks close to my gate it can make reversing out a bit difficult. Car not so much as I can still see but makes it more difficult to manoeuvre. Note I'm saying more difficult - it still isn't difficult or dangerous, but just a bit more of a nuisance.

Ouch!, not bad I hope.

[Horace Van Khute]

Osinjak said:

Horace Van Khute said:

HTP99 said:

If this was a pedestrian crossing would you also think it's ok to park where the arrow is?

Lol! How is that even remotely relevant? Dear God, I really do fear for some people's thinking on this site.

Blocking is blocking, you struggling with basic logic homes?

[Osinjak]

I'm sorry, what? Are you a bit dense? What the feck has a pedestrian crossing got to do with this situation? Absolutely positively nothing. People who use the 'if' argument just lack the intellectual capacity to unravel the initial problem and often use some spurious and totally unconnected example in order to support an argument that doesn't need supporting. Your example should be preserved in amber and rolled out every time someone rolls out the 'if' argument.

[Skyedriver]

PrinceRupert said:

Parking where you were is not illegal, but it would have made it more difficult than necessary for someone to reverse out of that drive.

Depending upon what she was driving the front (or rear) overhang would have come close to the rear of your car.
We used to have the situation where people would park opposite or diagonally opposite our driveway on a very narrow 4.1m wide road. The number of people who did this effectively blocking our driveway as we couldn't get out really got to the point where I systematically fell out with most of the cul de sac except those sensible enough to see my predicament. Folk even had driveways but visitors particularly parked on the street. Came home one lunchtime to see a car in the favourite position which while not blocking my access would mean a 100m reverse out of my drive back up the road to get out in half an hour. So I left the car in the road blocking it. Other driver still sat in car says "are you just leaving your car there like that" "Yes" and walked off into the house

Oh and to the OP, calling the old lady a"hag" does nothing to improve your situation.

[carlove]

HTP99 said:

Not bad parking, just wanted to get a parking issue of my chest.

Pulled up by the house after work yesterday, the road was relatively clear of parked cars so I parked in my usual spot just opposite the house, reversed back as close as I could to the neighbours dropped kerb so as to give maximum space for anyone else to park along that part of the road ahead infront of (tbh don't know why I actually bother as most just seem to bung their car anywhere with no thought for anyone else, frequently leaving their cars in such a place they they taking up 1 and a half spaces!)

As I was reversing up to the dropped kerb I noticed the daughter of the neighbour (some hag in her 60's), glaring at me, she was on the drive just about to get in her car. I parked up, got out walked round the back of the car to the passenger side to get a few bags out, she was still glaring, she then said "Errr can you not park so close to the drive, I can't get out now, you are parked across the dropped kerb"

I responded with, "I'm not, you've plenty of space to get out", "no, you are too close to the dropped kerb" I walked round to the back of the car pointed to where the rear of the car was and said "look, the rear of my car is right at the beginning of the first sloped bit of the dropped kerb, there is nothing wrong with my parking"

"no, it's the next bit of kerb before that (pointing to the beginning of the next section of kerb before where it drops), that is where you are supposed to park" I told her she was wrong and pointed again to where I was parked and said that, that was were it was however if her driving is so poor that she can't reverse out into a clear road then I'd move my car forward "you are such a no it all" was her response, I just responded with "that's rich coming from someone who tried to tell me something that was wrong"

I moved my car forward, got out to walk to the house "you lot are so annoying, you think you own this but of road with your parking" she shouted after me. I wish I'd got back in the car and moved it back to where it was.

Parking where I live can be a nightmare, I always park considerately to maximise space, I never park across a dropped kerb, not even a fraction over which is more than can be said about some others.

Where I am now, the arrow is where is where I was.

I can see her point, but I do agree with you. It looks like you'd still be able to get out, albeit it maybe not as easily. If you'd blocked the driveway it'd be a different story. Still, at least it wasn't a pedestrian crossing, that'd be a whole other ball game.

One of my neighbours has three cars(his, wife's and son's), and also happens to have the only house without a driveway, the son always parks across from my drive, and although it does make it trickier to get the angle to back in, I can still back in without issue. Therefore in my mind not worth mentioning it.

I do however like to think I'm good at parking, and people who have been in my car have complimented my manoeuvring (apart from when I reversed into a bench, still get laughed at about it a year later). To some people, the sons parking may well cause problems, to me it doesn't, not worth mentioning.

The other thing for me is the last thing I want is neighbourly disputes, I'd have probably just moved the car back as soon as it was clear she was a "Karen" (that's what the youth say I think). If I'm honest though, I'm not the most assertive person in the world, avoid confrontation like the plague.

[eldar]

Horace Van Khute said:

Blocking is blocking, you struggling with basic logic homes?

What are basic logic homes?

[SmoothCriminal]

HTP99 said:

Not bad parking, just wanted to get a parking issue of my chest.

Pulled up by the house after work yesterday, the road was relatively clear of parked cars so I parked in my usual spot just opposite the house, reversed back as close as I could to the neighbours dropped kerb so as to give maximum space for anyone else to park along that part of the road ahead infront of (tbh don't know why I actually bother as most just seem to bung their car anywhere with no thought for anyone else, frequently leaving their cars in such a place they they taking up 1 and a half spaces!)

As I was reversing up to the dropped kerb I noticed the daughter of the neighbour (some hag in her 60's), glaring at me, she was on the drive just about to get in her car. I parked up, got out walked round the back of the car to the passenger side to get a few bags out, she was still glaring, she then said "Errr can you not park so close to the drive, I can't get out now, you are parked across the dropped kerb"

I responded with, "I'm not, you've plenty of space to get out", "no, you are too close to the dropped kerb" I walked round to the back of the car pointed to where the rear of the car was and said "look, the rear of my car is right at the beginning of the first sloped bit of the dropped kerb, there is nothing wrong with my parking"

"no, it's the next bit of kerb before that (pointing to the beginning of the next section of kerb before where it drops), that is where you are supposed to park" I told her she was wrong and pointed again to where I was parked and said that, that was were it was however if her driving is so poor that she can't reverse out into a clear road then I'd move my car forward "you are such a no it all" was her response, I just responded with "that's rich coming from someone who tried to tell me something that was wrong"

I moved my car forward, got out to walk to the house "you lot are so annoying, you think you own this but of road with your parking" she shouted after me. I wish I'd got back in the car and moved it back to where it was.

Parking where I live can be a nightmare, I always park considerately to maximise space, I never park across a dropped kerb, not even a fraction over which is more than can be said about some others.

Where I am now, the arrow is where is where I was.

Parking where the arrow is, is just being a bellend you full well know that it will restrict her visibility when pulling out.

Why dont you park outside your own house?

Hopefully the old dear parks a car outside so you no longer have use of your "usual" space

Edited by SmoothCriminal on Sunday 5th July 22:16

[Frank7]

eldar said:

What are basic logic homes?

Think that there should be a comma after logic, homes is an abbreviation of the U.S. slang term homeboy, a close male friend that you grew up with, or someone from your home town.

[eldar]

Frank7 said:

Think that there should be a comma after logic, homes is an abbreviation of the U.S. slang term homeboy, a close male friend that you grew up with, or someone from your home town.

Ok, sort of makes sense. No idea why it appeared where it did. Some sort of gipsy curse?

[WarrenB]

SmoothCriminal said:

HTP99 said:

Not bad parking, just wanted to get a parking issue of my chest.

Pulled up by the house after work yesterday, the road was relatively clear of parked cars so I parked in my usual spot just opposite the house, reversed back as close as I could to the neighbours dropped kerb so as to give maximum space for anyone else to park along that part of the road ahead infront of (tbh don't know why I actually bother as most just seem to bung their car anywhere with no thought for anyone else, frequently leaving their cars in such a place they they taking up 1 and a half spaces!)

As I was reversing up to the dropped kerb I noticed the daughter of the neighbour (some hag in her 60's), glaring at me, she was on the drive just about to get in her car. I parked up, got out walked round the back of the car to the passenger side to get a few bags out, she was still glaring, she then said "Errr can you not park so close to the drive, I can't get out now, you are parked across the dropped kerb"

I responded with, "I'm not, you've plenty of space to get out", "no, you are too close to the dropped kerb" I walked round to the back of the car pointed to where the rear of the car was and said "look, the rear of my car is right at the beginning of the first sloped bit of the dropped kerb, there is nothing wrong with my parking"

"no, it's the next bit of kerb before that (pointing to the beginning of the next section of kerb before where it drops), that is where you are supposed to park" I told her she was wrong and pointed again to where I was parked and said that, that was were it was however if her driving is so poor that she can't reverse out into a clear road then I'd move my car forward "you are such a no it all" was her response, I just responded with "that's rich coming from someone who tried to tell me something that was wrong"

I moved my car forward, got out to walk to the house "you lot are so annoying, you think you own this but of road with your parking" she shouted after me. I wish I'd got back in the car and moved it back to where it was.

Parking where I live can be a nightmare, I always park considerately to maximise space, I never park across a dropped kerb, not even a fraction over which is more than can be said about some others.

Where I am now, the arrow is where is where I was.

Parking where the arrow is, is just being a bellend you full well know that it will restrict her visibility when pulling out.

Why dont you park outside your own house?

Hopefully the old dear parks a car outside so you no longer have use of your "usual" space

Edited by SmoothCriminal on Sunday 5th July 22:16

Looking at the picture the Zoe is parked opposite the OPs house, who I'm guessing doesn't have a driveway as there isn't a dropped kerb. If he'd parked there though it'd be even more difficult to pull out of the driveway as there'd only be half the roads width to manoeuvre.

[donkmeister]

hyphen said:

DoubleD said:

PrinceRupert said:

HTP99 said:

Not bad parking, just wanted to get a parking issue of my chest.

Pulled up by the house after work yesterday, the road was relatively clear of parked cars so I parked in my usual spot just opposite the house, reversed back as close as I could to the neighbours dropped kerb so as to give maximum space for anyone else to park along that part of the road ahead infront of (tbh don't know why I actually bother as most just seem to bung their car anywhere with no thought for anyone else, frequently leaving their cars in such a place they they taking up 1 and a half spaces!)

As I was reversing up to the dropped kerb I noticed the daughter of the neighbour (some hag in her 60's), glaring at me, she was on the drive just about to get in her car. I parked up, got out walked round the back of the car to the passenger side to get a few bags out, she was still glaring, she then said "Errr can you not park so close to the drive, I can't get out now, you are parked across the dropped kerb"

I responded with, "I'm not, you've plenty of space to get out", "no, you are too close to the dropped kerb" I walked round to the back of the car pointed to where the rear of the car was and said "look, the rear of my car is right at the beginning of the first sloped bit of the dropped kerb, there is nothing wrong with my parking"

"no, it's the next bit of kerb before that (pointing to the beginning of the next section of kerb before where it drops), that is where you are supposed to park" I told her she was wrong and pointed again to where I was parked and said that, that was were it was however if her driving is so poor that she can't reverse out into a clear road then I'd move my car forward "you are such a no it all" was her response, I just responded with "that's rich coming from someone who tried to tell me something that was wrong"

I moved my car forward, got out to walk to the house "you lot are so annoying, you think you own this but of road with your parking" she shouted after me. I wish I'd got back in the car and moved it back to where it was.

Parking where I live can be a nightmare, I always park considerately to maximise space, I never park across a dropped kerb, not even a fraction over which is more than can be said about some others.

Where I am now, the arrow is where is where I was.

Parking where you were is not illegal, but it would have made it more difficult than necessary for someone to reverse out of that drive.

Yeah I can kind of see the woman's point.

+1

Its not so bad when its a car like pictured, a small hatchback and what looks a quiet street. But when coming off a driveway on a busy road with a large SUV with tints on it, parked close, its a pain for visibility.

OP, nothing wrong with your parking though as such.

Can't comment on if she could have handled the discussion better, but another one who can see the woman's point here... I've got no issue with manoeuvring a car, but giving someone the absolute minimum space just because you can is a bit of a knob move. just because something is legal* doesn't make it socially acceptable. But... it's your neighbourly relations, not mine.

* It's like those people who make a point of flooring it onto roundabouts so they can honk at people, or try to block people going through priority gates if they didn't think that person should have gone, or run onto a zebra crossing without looking to see if the traffic is slowing. Yeah, technically you're right, but it's not really in the spirit of getting along in the world and when it gets to a certain point this sort of behaviour leads to more rules and bureaucracy instead of treating people like grown-ups who have common sense.

[HTP99]

WarrenB said:

SmoothCriminal said:

HTP99 said:

Not bad parking, just wanted to get a parking issue of my chest.

Pulled up by the house after work yesterday, the road was relatively clear of parked cars so I parked in my usual spot just opposite the house, reversed back as close as I could to the neighbours dropped kerb so as to give maximum space for anyone else to park along that part of the road ahead infront of (tbh don't know why I actually bother as most just seem to bung their car anywhere with no thought for anyone else, frequently leaving their cars in such a place they they taking up 1 and a half spaces!)

As I was reversing up to the dropped kerb I noticed the daughter of the neighbour (some hag in her 60's), glaring at me, she was on the drive just about to get in her car. I parked up, got out walked round the back of the car to the passenger side to get a few bags out, she was still glaring, she then said "Errr can you not park so close to the drive, I can't get out now, you are parked across the dropped kerb"

I responded with, "I'm not, you've plenty of space to get out", "no, you are too close to the dropped kerb" I walked round to the back of the car pointed to where the rear of the car was and said "look, the rear of my car is right at the beginning of the first sloped bit of the dropped kerb, there is nothing wrong with my parking"

"no, it's the next bit of kerb before that (pointing to the beginning of the next section of kerb before where it drops), that is where you are supposed to park" I told her she was wrong and pointed again to where I was parked and said that, that was were it was however if her driving is so poor that she can't reverse out into a clear road then I'd move my car forward "you are such a no it all" was her response, I just responded with "that's rich coming from someone who tried to tell me something that was wrong"

I moved my car forward, got out to walk to the house "you lot are so annoying, you think you own this but of road with your parking" she shouted after me. I wish I'd got back in the car and moved it back to where it was.

Parking where I live can be a nightmare, I always park considerately to maximise space, I never park across a dropped kerb, not even a fraction over which is more than can be said about some others.

Where I am now, the arrow is where is where I was.

Parking where the arrow is, is just being a bellend you full well know that it will restrict her visibility when pulling out.

Why dont you park outside your own house?

Hopefully the old dear parks a car outside so you no longer have use of your "usual" space

Edited by SmoothCriminal on Sunday 5th July 22:16

Looking at the picture the Zoe is parked opposite the OPs house, who I'm guessing doesn't have a driveway as there isn't a dropped kerb. If he'd parked there though it'd be even more difficult to pull out of the driveway as there'd only be half the roads width to manoeuvre.

Ok I've had a think about this, perhaps me parking to the letter is a bit off, I'll start parking as shown above from now on, unless that space is there and its the only space, ie there is a car parked ahead of where my car is and its parked in such a way that the only space left is tight but doable "legally", I honestly though my parking as I was, was fine as I look at the drive and think, yeahh it's clear and accessible and I'm thinking of other parkers.

As for parking on "my side" it's just not possible as the road would be blocked, I've been here 20 years and parking has always been as shown; on the opposite side.

When I see the woman again I'll go for a quick chat, explain my reasonings and apologise.

[Bonefish Blues]

Good call

[LetsTryAgain]

Bonefish Blues said:

Good call

Took the advice on the chin, looked at it from her point of view, willing to apologise and chat to her.

Can’t fault him.

[Horace Van Khute]

Osinjak said:

I'm sorry, what? Are you a bit dense? What the feck has a pedestrian crossing got to do with this situation? Absolutely positively nothing. People who use the 'if' argument just lack the intellectual capacity to unravel the initial problem and often use some spurious and totally unconnected example in order to support an argument that doesn't need supporting. Your example should be preserved in amber and rolled out every time someone rolls out the 'if' argument.

Are you ok hun?

Don't be a and have some consideration for others is the gist that your brain cell is unable to capture there.

[DoubleD]

HTP99 said:

When I see the woman again I'll go for a quick chat, explain my reasonings and apologise.

Good on you, its not worth falling out over. It would be interesting to hear how you get on.