MOT station mystery fail then pass

[Plate spinner]

r11co said:

cuprabob said:

Garages often fail on minor points to demonstrate they are picking stuff up to DVSA and keep the fail to pass rate ratio.

This.

I've no direct insight, but have read / heard this a few times. Sort of makes sense...

[Riley Blue]

This is when you might want to get concerned...

[xjay1337]

My car had the same.

Didn't worry me....pretty normal.

[PorkInsider]

xjay1337 said:

My car had the same.

Didn't worry me....pretty normal.

Crikey. I'd be at least slightly concerned. It's completely rotted away.

[The Mad Monk]

Riley Blue said:

This is when you might want to get concerned...

No problem.

They are all like that sir.

[Byker28i]

Riley Blue said:

This is when you might want to get concerned...

Pah

[wack]

bobtail4x4 said:

cuprabob said:

Garages often fail on minor points to demonstrate they are picking stuff up to DVSA and keep the fail to pass rate ratio.

they get pulled up if they pass everything,

Correct 2463 passes and no fails in 4 months attracts their attention what a moron

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/8490271....

[SonicShadow]

My MOT process - check everything I can check myself, usually involves adjusting the handbrake on the MR2... Give it an Italian tune up beforehand to get everything nice and hot for the emissions test and get it tested. Usually passes

[Bradley1500]

DaveH23 said:

A car that has had zero issues come MOT time would ring alarm bells for me as a buyer.

Why?

I've taken three cars for MOTs this month and all passed first time with no advisories. Not a dodgy garage, simply there was nothing to advise on.

[neil1jnr]

I really can't see an issue here.

They failed your car because the headlamp needed adjusted, they adjusted it for free (it can be done from the inside).

If you want an MOT history with zero fails then pay for a pre-MOT check and anything that you can fail for or have an advisory for is highlighted and you can get the issues fixed before putting the car through it's MOT.

[mcford]

neil1jnr said:

They failed your car because the headlamp needed adjusted, they adjusted it for free (it can be done from the inside).

That's not correct, the headlamp aim is checked - if found to be too low then the internal level adjuster is checked and if not on 0, it is set to 0 and the aim is ok - this would get an advisory.

If the headlamp aim is still out after this, the tester is permitted during the test to adjust the headlamps using the adjusters on the headlamps this will get a PRS which will generate a refusal followed by a pass.

The tester doesn't have to adjust the headlamps, he could just fail the car and let the customer arrange for the repair and retest.

[SMB]

Bradley1500 said:

DaveH23 said:

A car that has had zero issues come MOT time would ring alarm bells for me as a buyer.

Why?

I've taken three cars for MOTs this month and all passed first time with no advisories. Not a dodgy garage, simply there was nothing to advise on.

Even if you prep a car as I always do, the advisories can be added for the tester for things they deem a future concern, e.g. Perishing bushes, cv gaiters etc or even standard fitment, such things as undertrays to protect themselves should there be an issue under that cover. Neither means the car is in anyway unsafe or poorly maintained, failure to mark such comments on a car would suggest the mot was probably not such a full review of the cars status as it could have been. We all know cars claiming no advisories at sale time, yet in our view have serious issues let alone advisories.

Personally I always want a thorough mot to ensure the car is as safe as it can be.

[AdeTuono]

Byker28i said:

Pah

Cerbera? They're all like that Sir!

[gforceg]

The Mad Monk said:

Riley Blue said:

This is when you might want to get concerned...

No problem.

They are all like that sir.

At least the air intakes and carbs are nice and shiny.

[Little Pete]

Richard-390a0 said:

Threads like this make me glad I gave up testing years ago!.

Threads like this make me glad some of these posters aren't customers of mine!

[lucido grigio]

Where's the thread about PHer's mate with a Z3 with a boot floor about to fall out who went catatonic over the advisory ?

Okay ,it wasn't about to fall out but there was rust around the mountings.

[TheCarMadDad]

spanky3 said:

Just looking at my cars MOT history. The last three MOTs have all been at the same place and it's passed each time.However, in 2016 there's a fail for headlamp aim, immediately followed by a same-mileage pass.

I watch them do it each year and they've not touched my headlamps, nor was I told they'd failed and then passed it so I'm surprised and annoyed. Aside from the fact they've lost a loyal customer what incentive would they have for quietly making up a fail?

This is going to sound random, but I don't suppose your car is a Lexus IS300 is it?

[Bradley1500]

SMB said:

Bradley1500 said:

DaveH23 said:

A car that has had zero issues come MOT time would ring alarm bells for me as a buyer.

Why?

I've taken three cars for MOTs this month and all passed first time with no advisories. Not a dodgy garage, simply there was nothing to advise on.

Even if you prep a car as I always do, the advisories can be added for the tester for things they deem a future concern, e.g. Perishing bushes, cv gaiters etc or even standard fitment, such things as undertrays to protect themselves should there be an issue under that cover. Neither means the car is in anyway unsafe or poorly maintained, failure to mark such comments on a car would suggest the mot was probably not such a full review of the cars status as it could have been. We all know cars claiming no advisories at sale time, yet in our view have serious issues let alone advisories.

Personally I always want a thorough mot to ensure the car is as safe as it can be.

I can understand that but surely the condition of the car when viewing would show whether the MOT was likely dodgy or not? I mean, the cars I've had tested, two of my own and one which is my mothers, are all maintained to a high standard, and there was no advisories on the MOTs as none were needed.

I too want a thorough MOT to pick up on anything I may have missed. This year there was clearly nothing.

[Mr2Mike]

njw1 said:

Why do people worry about these things? If I put my car in for an mot and I come away with a pass I don't give a st what they had to do before issuing the pass. I've got much more to worry about than my cars's mot history.

Agreed, but there do seem to be a lot of odd people with some kind of obsessive disorder. It makes no sodding difference if the car fails on a minor point which is immediately rectified, it doesn't suddenly halve the value of the car.

[cuprabob]

Mr2Mike said:

njw1 said:

Why do people worry about these things? If I put my car in for an mot and I come away with a pass I don't give a st what they had to do before issuing the pass. I've got much more to worry about than my cars's mot history.

Agreed, but there do seem to be a lot of odd people with some kind of obsessive disorder. It makes no sodding difference if the car fails on a minor point which is immediately rectified, it doesn't suddenly halve the value of the car.

I think they are same people who think that a car will self destruct at 60k miles.