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RE: Hyundai i30 N full details

RE: Hyundai i30 N full details

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GTEYE

975 posts

134 months

Thursday 13th July
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Looks good in a not very original kind of way....tidy sums it up.

The biggest problem is that Hyundai doesn't have much of a track record in the hot hatch market so it may be a tough sell against the established "badges".

Sadly if it is anywhere near £30k, the only ones you see will be Hyundai dealer demos but if it was a useful bit cheaper than say the Focus ST, they might just get a few out on the roads.

JLC25

287 posts

46 months

Thursday 13th July
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Other reports say more circa 25k than under 30k. Let's be honest, big levels of kit, big warranty, something different and actually very fast. Flys under the radar too more than a Golf gti or Fiesta/Focus ST. These will be a cracking second hand buy.

Onehp

302 posts

207 months

Thursday 13th July
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It's not the badge or the spec sheet bragging rights that will make this car, it's the proper development work that went into setting it up that should convince us. Too bad if it turns out to be a great drive yet is dismissed beforehand on a few subjective quid too much, and this is Pistonheads I thought...

Oh and the article states that 19" is better. Perhaps on track, but for a road car I'll take 18" any day on a Golf sized HH!


RacerMike

1,593 posts

135 months

Thursday 13th July
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If it lives up to the EVO drive, it could be pretty special. Which is exactly what they need if they want to make an impression on the market. I followed one of these around the 'Ring last year in Industry Pool and they are really not slow at all. Far quicker than the 275bhp would suggest.

At the end of the EVO article they dropped a hint at a 400bhp 4WD Focus RS competitor arriving at the back end of next year.....

raspy

131 posts

18 months

Thursday 13th July
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Onehp said:
It's not the badge or the spec sheet bragging rights that will make this car, it's the proper development work that went into setting it up that should convince us. Too bad if it turns out to be a great drive yet is dismissed beforehand on a few subjective quid too much, and this is Pistonheads I thought...

Oh and the article states that 19" is better. Perhaps on track, but for a road car I'll take 18" any day on a Golf sized HH!
Indeed. How can people on PH dismiss it as having no value or competence without driving it themselves?

Wouldn't the bloke who oversaw it, "Albert Biermann - who used to be VP of engineering for BMW's M vehicles", know a thing or two about performance cars? The myopia of not being able to see clearly beyond a badge (or a company's limited heritage) makes me chuckle.

More competition in this space is healthy for consumers.
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dazwalsh

3,286 posts

65 months

Thursday 13th July
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The rear of this thing seems to have been designed by 3 different people, and rather than come to a compromise they just wedged the 3 designs together like a child playing with some play doh. It's all over the place.

I do like those wheels however, and the front end.

the_hood

347 posts

118 months

Thursday 13th July
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It look ok, but there quite a few hot hatches with similar power for similar money so it could struggle for sales.

uuf361

2,875 posts

146 months

Thursday 13th July
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£30k - no way Pedro!

glasso

2 posts

6 months

Thursday 13th July
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the veloster n (2018) will be a much more interesting proposition imo.

Speed Badger

676 posts

41 months

Thursday 13th July
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I like the triangular high level brake light. But as observed earlier it seems like it's been designed by committee. Focus front, Civic Type R red front splittery bit, Pug side view, Golf rear with a sprinkle of Audi. It also needs to undercut the RS's and Type R's significantly, because Hyundai lack the pedigree and history of a performance brand - indeed the model name 'N' seems to be plucked out of the air because it 'looks like a chicane' and the performance division is kinda near the Nurburgring.

Having said that, have we ever had it so good with hot hatches?

ZX10R NIN

8,955 posts

49 months

Thursday 13th July
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If they can get people to go & test drive it I'm sure they'll get sales weather that'll turn into lots of sales remains to be seen people will have to get past the badge, which will be the bigger problem just ask Kia the GT C'eed was a decent steer but people won't buy them (a Focus sized hatch for Fiesta money) it looks like a decent car.

Frimley111R

8,119 posts

158 months

Thursday 13th July
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I'm sure it will be good but with so much competition it really will be an uphill struggle given the brand has zero credibility in the performance/hot hatch arena. It'll be a curiosity I suspect for many but this is where brands start and in 20 years we may well think of them in the same way we do the current brands

stevesingo

2,882 posts

146 months

Thursday 13th July
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ZX10R NIN said:
If they can get people to go & test drive it I'm sure they'll get sales weather that'll turn into lots of sales remains to be seen people will have to get past the badge, which will be the bigger problem just ask Kia the GT C'eed was a decent steer but people won't buy them (a Focus sized hatch for Fiesta money) it looks like a decent car.
Thing is they won't test drive them. As you can see from 85% of the posts thus far, badge is more important than how they drive, look or what they cost. Even a £25k and a best in class driving experience, they will still be outsold by a VW, just because...

In the 21st century, sadly motoring enthusiast=image enthusiast.

RacerMike

1,593 posts

135 months

Thursday 13th July
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stevesingo said:
Thing is they won't test drive them. As you can see from 85% of the posts thus far, badge is more important than how they drive, look or what they cost. Even a £25k and a best in class driving experience, they will still be outsold by a VW, just because...

In the 21st century, sadly motoring enthusiast=image enthusiast.
What if it wins absolutely every group test? And it’s declared as the next best thing to an E46 M3? Sounds far fetched, but it could be given the effort they’ve put in and the people involved. I for one am interested in the 4WD one if they bring that out...

Uncle John

1,597 posts

115 months

Thursday 13th July
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Funny thing is Hyundai have had a car in the WRC for quite a few years now, so a strong competition pedigree.....

But no one knows because WRC does not have the public audiences like it used to.


ZX10R NIN

8,955 posts

49 months

Thursday 13th July
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stevesingo said:
ZX10R NIN said:
If they can get people to go & test drive it I'm sure they'll get sales weather that'll turn into lots of sales remains to be seen people will have to get past the badge, which will be the bigger problem just ask Kia the GT C'eed was a decent steer but people won't buy them (a Focus sized hatch for Fiesta money) it looks like a decent car.
Thing is they won't test drive them. As you can see from 85% of the posts thus far, badge is more important than how they drive, look or what they cost. Even a £25k and a best in class driving experience, they will still be outsold by a VW, just because...

In the 21st century, sadly motoring enthusiast=image enthusiast.
I agree to a certain extent you only have to look at the RS Megane it's been the best drivers hot hatch for nearly a decade & yet the Focus ST & Golf GTI/R (& even Ford struggles with it's badge) have ruled the roost in terms of sales.

I hope the next Megane (if it's a good one) gets the sales it deserves but it goes to show how hard it is to crack a badge conscious market.

DanielSan

12,172 posts

91 months

Thursday 13th July
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Guess I'm in the minority then, I like it and I'd definitely consider buying one of the lease deals were decent.

redroadster

657 posts

156 months

Thursday 13th July
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High price for an average looking car ,there lots more cars I'd have over this at this level .

yme402

36 posts

26 months

Thursday 13th July
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Noble effort, but why would you ever choose this over a Golf GTI ?

cuprabob

5,095 posts

138 months

Thursday 13th July
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I would love to have been a fly on the wall at the meeting where they were brainstorming to come up with a performance brand designator as they went through the alphabet discussing the spare letters and coming up with "N" and then coming up with "it symbolises a chicane". I hope the marketing people got a bonus.