RE: Toyota Yaris GRMN: Driven

RE: Toyota Yaris GRMN: Driven

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roverspeed

700 posts

196 months

Monday 17th July 2017
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Corolla T Sport Compressor, yup.

It had a 1.8 VVLTi Supercharged Engine, 217bhp IIRC.

I drove one for a few weeks when I worked for Toyota back in the day, felt pretty gutless below 5000 rpm considering the supercharger.

I assume this is not the same engine, as the old one maxed at over 8000 rpm and redlined about 8500.

The supercharger did very little in the Corolla as the T Sport without it had 190bhp!

SonicShadow

2,452 posts

154 months

Monday 17th July 2017
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Have they confirmed it's a 2ZZ? I'm surprised they are using the ZZ as it's two generations old now.

Save Ferris

2,685 posts

213 months

Monday 17th July 2017
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MorganP104 said:
My thoughts exactly. This hot Yaris should be in the £17-19k bracket.
Most of the New Yaris Hyrid models we sell are just over £20K these days, this was never going to be £17-19.

SonicShadow

2,452 posts

154 months

Monday 17th July 2017
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Save Ferris said:
MorganP104 said:
My thoughts exactly. This hot Yaris should be in the £17-19k bracket.
Most of the New Yaris Hyrid models we sell are just over £20K these days, this was never going to be £17-19.
This is PH, there are people who won't be happy unless it's under 10k.

ZX10R NIN

27,577 posts

125 months

Monday 17th July 2017
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27k you can buy a Hyundai Ni30 for that money biglaugh


Speed_Demon

2,662 posts

188 months

Monday 17th July 2017
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17-19k isn't that what an EP3 Type R went for FIFTEEN YEARS ago?

I'm not sure what you were expecting when it's so limited in numbers and uncompromising.

Loyly

17,995 posts

159 months

Monday 17th July 2017
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Sounds like a really cool testbed of technology for Toyota. I hope it will spearhead their return to form.

Mike1990

964 posts

131 months

Monday 17th July 2017
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https://youtu.be/unCvdS4Vrco

Sounds pretty good. It's going to be a joy to drive hard. Shame the Track wasn't dry though.


Edited by Mike1990 on Monday 17th July 18:28

DanielSan

18,774 posts

167 months

Monday 17th July 2017
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vz-r_dave said:
Bencolem said:
Blah, blah, blah. Why didn't they chuck this engine in the GT86 and GRMN that instead.
Its an I4 not a boxer, it's not in partnership with Subaru...... both pretty good reasons from what I can see.
Low pressure charger on the Boxer lump and some trick dampers. 250bhp and £34k that'd make a nice GRMN specced 86. Think of it as a practical Elise S

stanglish

255 posts

113 months

Monday 17th July 2017
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[quote]Toyota's stated objective for the car is clear and concise: for it to be the lightest, fastest and most powerful car in its class

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Surely a tiny bit annoying for the outgoing Fiesta ST to be 27kg heavier with lots of tuning potential to easily reach these power numbers.

I just think it would be more attractive if it wasn't the best part of £10k more expensive, and then that would encourage them to make more. Then again do you reckon this will be Mugen-esque in that it'll hold its price really well?

lord trumpton

7,381 posts

126 months

Monday 17th July 2017
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If it was a real storming car with the seating and steering position sorted then maybe it would be worth buying - maybe to flip for a profit.

If it's an expensive 'ok' type of car then I can't see them selling well at all

Murphy16

254 posts

82 months

Monday 17th July 2017
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I was really keen on this till i learnt the price, and that there'd only be 100 in the UK.

FourWheelDrifter

39 posts

135 months

Monday 17th July 2017
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ecsrobin

17,101 posts

165 months

Monday 17th July 2017
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stanglish said:
pistonheads said:
Toyota's stated objective for the car is clear and concise: for it to be the lightest, fastest and most powerful car in its class
Surely a tiny bit annoying for the outgoing Fiesta ST to be 27kg heavier with lots of tuning potential to easily reach these power numbers.

I just think it would be more attractive if it wasn't the best part of £10k more expensive, and then that would encourage them to make more. Then again do you reckon this will be Mugen-esque in that it'll hold its price really well?
If considered to be in the same class an Abarth 595 is 1,035kg

dufunk

182 posts

123 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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Its the 2ZR-FAE engine 150bhp standard replaced the 1ZZ long ago. Used in the Elise also sounds great with supercharger really rev hungry all the way to 7K sounds better than the Type R IMO check it out at the ring on youtube will shock many on a track i reckon.

s m

23,219 posts

203 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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ash73 said:
Nice car, price is nuts.
Easy prey for a 320d with that performance.......

ecksjay

327 posts

152 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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Limited run of 100.

No doubt it'll sell out and I am not expecting any on the used market for 'cheap'. That's crazy limited, half tempted myself as someone above has said to flip for a profit.

Great example of a manufacturer having fun with something. As the article said, it shouldn't exist.

It is a homologation exercise only basically. The price is what it is, £20k years back for an ep3 or £27k today. sounds about right for inflation etc.

Those chirping that it's too much and has ruined it for them, remember it's not a modern day starlet turbo/glanza etc. It's a limited 100 run. Very limited. The fact they've even done it should be commended. A big 'FU' to the swathes of other hot hatches on the market which are all pretty much indiscernible.

s m

23,219 posts

203 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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ecksjay said:
Limited run of 100.

No doubt it'll sell out and I am not expecting any on the used market for 'cheap'. That's crazy limited, half tempted myself as someone above has said to flip for a profit.

Great example of a manufacturer having fun with something. As the article said, it shouldn't exist.

It is a homologation exercise only basically. The price is what it is, £20k years back for an ep3 or £27k today. sounds about right for inflation etc.

Those chirping that it's too much and has ruined it for them, remember it's not a modern day starlet turbo/glanza etc. It's a limited 100 run. Very limited. The fact they've even done it should be commended. A big 'FU' to the swathes of other hot hatches on the market which are all pretty much indiscernible.
A sort of modern day R53 Cooper S Works GP then

MustardCutter

238 posts

120 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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I'm not sure the Yaris, the Gazoo brand or the whole of Toyota have enough of an enthusiast / fanboy / cult status to pull off an expensive limited run car like this in the UK. It's not like it's a limited production Porsche that speculators cream themselves to get. Looks like a proper job though and kudos to Toyota for running with it. Let's hope they start making heated up versions of their other cars without the huge mark up, though they could do with a whole new design team first!

df76

3,627 posts

278 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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Loved the look of the Yaris GRMN that was on display at Le Mans, and the concept is great. However, the price is ridiculous in comparison with the competition..