Van driver narrowly avoids cyclist
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Must have been here: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.899086,-0.611050...
As a cyclist I get passes like that every other day (normally by Taxi's). Life goes on - if you want to cycle accept the risks and get on with it. Don't cry to the internet every time someone does something you don't like.
As a cyclist I get passes like that every other day (normally by Taxi's). Life goes on - if you want to cycle accept the risks and get on with it. Don't cry to the internet every time someone does something you don't like.
Edited by Torquey on Tuesday 18th July 11:49
Torquey said:
Must have been here: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.899086,-0.611050...
As a cyclist I get passes like that every other day (normally by Taxi's). Life goes on - if you want to cycle accept the risks and get on with it.
I don't agree with that view. Why should cyclists take the risk of being killed from drivers driving too quickly or not paying attention? Yes, it may have been a fast road, but the fact of the matter is the cyclist was in the right lane when the van changed lane into him - dangerous, and caused by excessive speed and/or lack of care. As a cyclist I get passes like that every other day (normally by Taxi's). Life goes on - if you want to cycle accept the risks and get on with it.
Edited by Torquey on Tuesday 18th July 11:48
Torquey said:
Must have been here: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.899086,-0.611050...
As a cyclist I get passes like that every other day (normally by Taxi's). Life goes on - if you want to cycle accept the risks and get on with it.
Tis a big risk, that van driver could have killed the cyclist. Is it an NSL? Can't see anything to indicate otherwise on that road. It'd be a 30 around here. As a cyclist I get passes like that every other day (normally by Taxi's). Life goes on - if you want to cycle accept the risks and get on with it.
Edited by Torquey on Tuesday 18th July 11:48
Torquey said:
Must have been here: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.899086,-0.611050...
As a cyclist I get passes like that every other day (normally by Taxi's). Life goes on - if you want to cycle accept the risks and get on with it. Don't cry to the internet every time someone does something you don't like.
This is a crazy attitude. Surely if near misses like that happen to you everyday, ones that endanger your life, it makes more sense to try to change attitudes and society to stop those events happening. We used to tolerate really quite intoxicated people driving, we don't anymore. we used to tolerate racism, and sexism, and we try not to anymore. Why should being treated like you are an inconvenience, an obstacle, and deserve to be swept aside on the road as easily and with as little regard as fallen leaves be something we ought to accept?As a cyclist I get passes like that every other day (normally by Taxi's). Life goes on - if you want to cycle accept the risks and get on with it. Don't cry to the internet every time someone does something you don't like.
Edited by Torquey on Tuesday 18th July 11:49
This stuff is the entire reason I mountain bike & only mountain bike. Between the clueless & worse, mendacious drivers, cycle haters, internet forum pedants & point scorers, the easiest thing to do is to simply stay off the roads & away from all this never ending yeah but, yeah but, hamster wheel bull s
t from either side of the argument.
t from either side of the argument.Just to add, the road is a 50 limit with a speed camera 100 yards before the junction that the van had just passed.
So I'd suggest he was doing around 50mph.
If people want to cycle on 40+ mph roads and fight for the right for safe cycling on these roads then go ahead. I wouldn't risk it personally.
So I'd suggest he was doing around 50mph.
If people want to cycle on 40+ mph roads and fight for the right for safe cycling on these roads then go ahead. I wouldn't risk it personally.
Torquey said:
Just to add, the road is a 50 limit with a speed camera 100 yards before the junction that the van had just passed.
So I'd suggest he was doing around 50mph.
If people want to cycle on 40+ mph roads and fight for the right for safe cycling on these roads then go ahead. I wouldn't risk it personally.
The chap was clearly needing to cross that road to get to another road, rather than cycling along the dual carriageway for miles. You saying he shouldn't be allowed to do so (or shouldn't do so), rather than drivers to drive with a little more care?So I'd suggest he was doing around 50mph.
If people want to cycle on 40+ mph roads and fight for the right for safe cycling on these roads then go ahead. I wouldn't risk it personally.
Torquey said:
Just to add, the road is a 50 limit with a speed camera 100 yards before the junction that the van had just passed.
So I'd suggest he was doing around 50mph.
If people want to cycle on 40+ mph roads and fight for the right for safe cycling on these roads then go ahead. I wouldn't risk it personally.
Cyclists don't have to fight for the right....it's there already in law and in guidance for road users, in this case the cyclist is just asking for it to be applied.So I'd suggest he was doing around 50mph.
If people want to cycle on 40+ mph roads and fight for the right for safe cycling on these roads then go ahead. I wouldn't risk it personally.
I usually get something similar every time I go out on the bike too, but that's 1 vehicle out of hundreds that pass, doesn't make it right.
Integroo said:
Byker28i said:
Why was the cyclist to the left of the lane, why not ride more to the right? He must know it's a long filter lane and traffic will be coming up behind to use it. Trying to defend the lane from other traffic?
I'll always take the lane if cycling on the right to take a right turn - you're not where cars expect you to be and you dont want them driving past you without noticing you - it makes you easier to see and part of the traffic (in theory)...its not normally for very long,as you're turning right https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.8991656,-0.61182...
So the logic says don't stick out with traffic coming up fast, he had a lot of room to the right that he could have used in that lane, especially as he'd just set off. Van driver was careless but the cyclist contributed
Byker28i said:
Integroo said:
Byker28i said:
Why was the cyclist to the left of the lane, why not ride more to the right? He must know it's a long filter lane and traffic will be coming up behind to use it. Trying to defend the lane from other traffic?
I'll always take the lane if cycling on the right to take a right turn - you're not where cars expect you to be and you dont want them driving past you without noticing you - it makes you easier to see and part of the traffic (in theory)...its not normally for very long,as you're turning right https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.8991656,-0.61182...
So the logic says don't stick out with traffic coming up fast, he had a lot of room to the right that he could have used in that lane, especially as he'd just set off. Van driver was careless but the cyclist contributed
The cyclist had every right to be in that lane and not wanting a van driver to go past him at that speed in the same lane as him.
Some people have an agenda against cyclists and find any reason to blame the cyclist, when this was clearly the van drivers fault.
Byker28i said:
However in this case - it's a huge long way to the right turn, possibly die to the speed vehicle travel along that road?
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.8991656,-0.61182...
So the logic says don't stick out with traffic coming up fast, he had a lot of room to the right that he could have used in that lane, especially as he'd just set off. Van driver was careless but the cyclist contributed
I don't think the cyclist was remotely carelesshttps://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.8991656,-0.61182...
So the logic says don't stick out with traffic coming up fast, he had a lot of room to the right that he could have used in that lane, especially as he'd just set off. Van driver was careless but the cyclist contributed
I wouldn't have stuck to the right there as you leave yourself wide open to being squeezed up against the verge on the right, plus you don't want to get to the end on the right as you'll be getting in the way of the cars and its awkward to switch right to left further down the slip.
You obviously don't cycle much on this type of road/junction
bigandclever said:
You get a bit more of the start, and a couple of extra angles, of the video here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtBrCM3wggU
Still looks odd layout to meAll the same looking at it longer, is the bike 'trying to make the point' they can use up the whole lane rather than keeping right
and conversely the van 'trying to make the point' the bike could move over to the right.
It's not one of these two numpties meet each other videos?
In the end they both made their point and the world carried on.
saaby93 said:
bigandclever said:
You get a bit more of the start, and a couple of extra angles, of the video here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtBrCM3wggU
Still looks odd layout to meAll the same looking at it longer, is the bike 'trying to make the point' they can use up the whole lane rather than keeping right
and conversely the van 'trying to make the point' the bike could move over to the right.
It's not one of these two numpties meet each other videos?
In the end they both made their point and the world carried on.
saaby93 said:
till looks odd layout to me
All the same looking at it longer, is the bike 'trying to make the point' they can use up the whole lane rather than keeping right
and conversely the van 'trying to make the point' the bike could move over to the right.
It's not one of these two numpties meet each other videos?
In the end they both made their point and the world carried on.
I really struggle to see why you endlessly start these threads. What do you get out of it? All the same looking at it longer, is the bike 'trying to make the point' they can use up the whole lane rather than keeping right
and conversely the van 'trying to make the point' the bike could move over to the right.
It's not one of these two numpties meet each other videos?
In the end they both made their point and the world carried on.
The bloke in the van is a total
. There isn't really much more to it than that. M-SportMatt said:
WVM clearly speeding, deliberately swerved as close to the cyclist as he could manage to intimidate. Very poor and should have a visit from plod for a verbal slapped wrist at the very least.
This. Aggressive AND dangerous driving from the prick in the van that could have easily ended in a serious accident.Police are f*cking useless, totally uninterested. Different matter if they sit on a road pointing a speed gun up an unnaturally low speed-limited but perfectly safe road.
I get so many near misses when out on the bike. Two in the last week from cars with PH stickers on too.
Ares said:
M-SportMatt said:
WVM clearly speeding, deliberately swerved as close to the cyclist as he could manage to intimidate. Very poor and should have a visit from plod for a verbal slapped wrist at the very least.
This. Aggressive AND dangerous driving from the prick in the van that could have easily ended in a serious accident.Police are f*cking useless, totally uninterested. Different matter if they sit on a road pointing a speed gun up an unnaturally low speed-limited but perfectly safe road.
I get so many near misses when out on the bike. Two in the last week from cars with PH stickers on too.
Integroo said:
Ares said:
M-SportMatt said:
WVM clearly speeding, deliberately swerved as close to the cyclist as he could manage to intimidate. Very poor and should have a visit from plod for a verbal slapped wrist at the very least.
This. Aggressive AND dangerous driving from the prick in the van that could have easily ended in a serious accident.Police are f*cking useless, totally uninterested. Different matter if they sit on a road pointing a speed gun up an unnaturally low speed-limited but perfectly safe road.
I get so many near misses when out on the bike. Two in the last week from cars with PH stickers on too.
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