Van driver narrowly avoids cyclist

[essayer]

Matt p said:

That's a 50mph stretch in between two speed cameras. It's a right hand filter lane, cyclist appears to be turning off towards stanbridge. WVM is a berk and there was no need to pass that close however the area is heavily populated by pikies so more than likely one of those cretins.

+1 see loads of st driving on that road. Usually Navaras, Transits et al. Can only guess why Beds Police didn't want to investigate..

[vz-r_dave]

Another cyclist out looking for confrontation in the name of having a massive gigantic chip on their shoulder. Pathetic! (Not condoning the Van Driver) The government need to build cycle paths like they do on the continent. It is far too dangerous to mix the two on anything above 30mph, Regardless of the current laws here cyclists on 50's is completely ridiculous and dangerous.

Edited by vz-r_dave on Tuesday 18th July 12:40

[Integroo]

vz-r_dave said:

Another cyclist out looking for confrontation in the name of having a massive gigantic chip on their shoulder. Pathetic! The government need to build cycle paths like they do on the continent. It is far too dangerous to mix the two on anything above 30mph, Regardless of the current laws here cyclists on 50's is completely ridiculous and dangerous.

Ares - this is exactly what I was talking about! Almost like a caricature.

[Donbot]

vz-r_dave said:

Another cyclist out looking for confrontation in the name of having a massive gigantic chip on their shoulder. Pathetic! (Not condoning the Van Driver) The government need to build cycle paths like they do on the continent. It is far too dangerous to mix the two on anything above 30mph, Regardless of the current laws here cyclists on 50's is completely ridiculous and dangerous.

Edited by vz-r_dave on Tuesday 18th July 12:40

I ride in 50's and NSL limits all the time. It's fine as long as people aren't being idiots.

[J4CKO]

Van driver was making his point as a mobile driver education unit, with two tonnes of Transit, if not and he didnt see the cyclist, then that is different, but either way he is the one that needs educating, via a Careless or Dangerous driving charge.

[Ares]

vz-r_dave said:

Another cyclist out looking for confrontation in the name of having a massive gigantic chip on their shoulder. Pathetic! (Not condoning the Van Driver) The government need to build cycle paths like they do on the continent. It is far too dangerous to mix the two on anything above 30mph, Regardless of the current laws here cyclists on 50's is completely ridiculous and dangerous.

Edited by vz-r_dave on Tuesday 18th July 12:40

No it's not. Try standing right on the edge of a platform when a train screams past at 50-70mph 6-12 inches away. Comfortable feeling?

And it's no worse than drivers having a rant (expect the drivers are as likely to be KSI's).

It merely needs common sense from drivers and cyclists.

[deeen]

Was the cyclist at a "Give Way" line? Does that mean he should have waited until he could have pulled out without impeding a vehicle on the main carriageway?

Doesn't excuse the van driver's subsequent actions, although at least he avoided a collision.

[Ares]

deeen said:

Was the cyclist at a "Give Way" line? Does that mean he should have waited until he could have pulled out without impeding a vehicle on the main carriageway?

Doesn't excuse the van driver's subsequent actions, although at least he avoided a collision.

Was he impeding the vehicle?

[M-SportMatt]

deeen said:

Was the cyclist at a "Give Way" line? Does that mean he should have waited until he could have pulled out without impeding a vehicle on the main carriageway?

Doesn't excuse the van driver's subsequent actions, although at least he avoided a collision.

The cyclist was already off the main carriageway ( see video ) and the van clearly has a lot more space in front to pull in further along when joining the cyclists lane..........you do have eyesight and a driving license?

[Byker28i]

Integroo said:

saaby93 said:

bigandclever said:

You get a bit more of the start, and a couple of extra angles, of the video here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtBrCM3wggU

Still looks odd layout to me
All the same looking at it longer, is the bike 'trying to make the point' they can use up the whole lane rather than keeping right
and conversely the van 'trying to make the point' the bike could move over to the right.

It's not one of these two numpties meet each other videos?
In the end they both made their point and the world carried on.

No. The cyclist was in the correct and safest position for him to be in. See Matt's response above - if he stays to the right he risks getting pushed into the verge, and then nearer the junction risks being caught between vehicle and side of road. The van driver was in the wrong and his behaviour could have led to a serious incident. Not simply a oh well things happen life goes on.

I can see that - looking at the dual video I think it's also down to the camera positioning, rear view vs front view looks like the bike is positioned differently on the road. Rear camera makes it look likes he's in the middle of the lane which is where I'd expect.

There's 6 secs between when the cyclist left the side turning and the van passing so plenty of time for the van driver to see him, but look at the rear view at 10 secs, the van has only a tyres width over the white line, yet it's too close. he's pulled in, then seen the cyclist, then pulled out.
Could easily have pulled across later having passed the cyclist.

Doesn't look a good junction /road to be cycling along though?

[Adz The Rat]

If the police weren't bothered by it, WTF did he expect Chris Boardman to do??

[Mr GrimNasty]

How was that even close? The van dived around him a bit, but as he passes his nearest side was only just on the lane line, and the cyclist is in the middle of the whole lane next to it.

And appealing to Boardmen for objectivity - pfffffft - sorry (yes I know champion/personal loss etc.), but he is the worst sort of figurehead, his attitude stinks, the favorite talking head for all things cycling on BBC radio, he'll only be happy when cars are banned.

Probably posts as Heeebeeeegeeeebees on here!

[thiscocks]

The van driver knew what he was doing and was a blatant aggressively close overtake of a cyclist for whatever reason the driver thought he had.

[Ares]

Integroo said:

vz-r_dave said:

Another cyclist out looking for confrontation in the name of having a massive gigantic chip on their shoulder. Pathetic! The government need to build cycle paths like they do on the continent. It is far too dangerous to mix the two on anything above 30mph, Regardless of the current laws here cyclists on 50's is completely ridiculous and dangerous.

Ares - this is exactly what I was talking about! Almost like a caricature.

Exactly. I often find that such opinions belong to those who aught to get out and try a little exercise too

[Ares]

Adz The Rat said:

If the police weren't bothered by it, WTF did he expect Chris Boardman to do??

Bring it to public attention? Seems to have worked.

[Ares]

Mr GrimNasty said:

And appealing to Boardmen for objectivity - pfffffft - sorry (yes I know champion/personal loss etc.), but he is the worst sort of figurehead, his attitude stinks, the favorite talking head for all things cycling on BBC radio, he'll only be happy when cars are banned.

Yeah, what a wker. Trying to reduce road deaths, whats the point in that? Go and get a proper fking job Boardman.....




As for trying to get cars banned, well done for introducing the classic anti-cyclist stereotypical fkwit statement

[J4CKO]

vz-r_dave said:

Another cyclist out looking for confrontation in the name of having a massive gigantic chip on their shoulder. Pathetic! (Not condoning the Van Driver) The government need to build cycle paths like they do on the continent. It is far too dangerous to mix the two on anything above 30mph, Regardless of the current laws here cyclists on 50's is completely ridiculous and dangerous.

Edited by vz-r_dave on Tuesday 18th July 12:40

It isnt a chip on the shoulder, its not wanting a van on it, had the van passed at a sensible difference, the video would have stayed on the camera and been overwritten.

I rode in today, first time in a while and went down a fifty stretch, sometimes you have to to get somewhere, planning 30 mph only routes is pretty difficult.

I do avoid the busier roads if I can, go down the single track roads, but of course you then get folk in a hurry using that as a cut through and look surprised when someone comes the other way.

[FiF]

Not acceptable from van driver, not sure why police uninterested, clear section 3 RTA offence in my view, unless perhaps they searched the reg number and see it's a mathematical locksmith type. Regardless of that it's piss poor driving by van man, hence above, and suggest it's trying to teach cyclist a lesson, not sure what lesson frankly, certainly nothing warranted. Be tempted in court to give him more than three points too.

[Adz The Rat]

Ares said:

Bring it to public attention? Seems to have worked.

I suppose so, but 9 out of 10 of the public won't give a monkeys.

[deeen]

Ares said:

deeen said:

Was the cyclist at a "Give Way" line? Does that mean he should have waited until he could have pulled out without impeding a vehicle on the main carriageway?

Doesn't excuse the van driver's subsequent actions, although at least he avoided a collision.

Was he impeding the vehicle?

I'd say yes, because he caused the van driver to hit the brakes?