Van driver narrowly avoids cyclist
Discussion
Ares said:
Integroo said:
Byker28i said:
Possible a subject for a separate thread, but is it time to ban cyclists from major roads?
There's usually a MAMIL (Middle-aged Man In Lycra) holding up traffic on A roads these days, especially when the Tour de France is on.
Even when you get past, they catch up at traffic lights, ride the pavement to get to the front of the queue and hold everyone up again.
You can usually find them riding in the middle of the road, because it's safest (not in the gutter - I get that) and then gesturing when you overtake because you hadn't given them the space they deemed appropriate, despite the fact you've passed as far as possible on the other side of the road.
Heaven help you if you come across a calamity, sorry peleton, of weekend riders, two or three abreast. "We've got every right to be here, we've got cameras you know" as they ride blocking NSL roads at 10-15mph.
So an easier life for everyone. Cyclists can't ride on major roads unless there's a bike lane, thus avoiding the major cause of friction. Less interaction at speed means less accidents, less reasons for cyclists/motorists to complain. With the major roads freed up, drivers will be more tolerant when coming across riders on minor roads.
Sorted.
Right, now about antisocial Horse Riders
We could just ban knob heads like you from the road, would make life better for everyone. There's usually a MAMIL (Middle-aged Man In Lycra) holding up traffic on A roads these days, especially when the Tour de France is on.
Even when you get past, they catch up at traffic lights, ride the pavement to get to the front of the queue and hold everyone up again.
You can usually find them riding in the middle of the road, because it's safest (not in the gutter - I get that) and then gesturing when you overtake because you hadn't given them the space they deemed appropriate, despite the fact you've passed as far as possible on the other side of the road.
Heaven help you if you come across a calamity, sorry peleton, of weekend riders, two or three abreast. "We've got every right to be here, we've got cameras you know" as they ride blocking NSL roads at 10-15mph.
So an easier life for everyone. Cyclists can't ride on major roads unless there's a bike lane, thus avoiding the major cause of friction. Less interaction at speed means less accidents, less reasons for cyclists/motorists to complain. With the major roads freed up, drivers will be more tolerant when coming across riders on minor roads.
Sorted.
Right, now about antisocial Horse Riders
Ares said:
Cyclists keep away from the very edge of the road as it is covered in debris and often a s
t road surface.
Two wheel riders - not just cyclists t road surface.
Not so much of a st road surface (unless we're talking drains) but certainly where all the top level dressing seems to accumulate. Not a good place to rideHowever, those wide angle cameras on the bike are distorting the view. In one it looks like he's hogging the right of the lane, in the other it looks like he's riding almost in the middle. As the complaint is that the van passed too closely with just a wheels width over the white line (with some suggesting it almost brushed him), he could possibly have moved over a little more rather than dominating the lane.
Did we ever establish what he was wearing - fluorescent clothing, lycra, dark clothing?
Edited by Byker28i on Monday 24th July 14:00
DoubleD said:
Ares said:
DoubleD said:
mybrainhurts said:
Randy Winkman said:
As a keen cyclist for years I'd not have considered myself safer by moving to the right. That would just make it easier for people to skim past with complete disregard.
So you think it's ok to baulk motorised traffic at 10mph on a 50mph slip road, then?DoubleD said:
Ares said:
DoubleD said:
mybrainhurts said:
Randy Winkman said:
As a keen cyclist for years I'd not have considered myself safer by moving to the right. That would just make it easier for people to skim past with complete disregard.
So you think it's ok to baulk motorised traffic at 10mph on a 50mph slip road, then?I'd say with a high degree of certainty the dominant issue was the attitude of the driver, not the exact lane position of the cyclist
Byker28i said:
Ares said:
Cyclists keep away from the very edge of the road as it is covered in debris and often a st road surface.
Two wheel riders - not just cyclists t road surface. Not so much of a st road surface (unless we're talking drains) but certainly where all the top level dressing seems to accumulate. Not a good place to rideHowever, those wide angle cameras on the bike are distorting the view. In one it looks like he's hogging the right of the lane, in the other it looks like he's riding almost in the middle. As the complaint is that the van passed too closely with just a wheels width over the white line (with some suggesting it almost brushed him), he could possibly have moved over a little more rather than dominating the lane.
Did we ever establish what he was wearing - fluorescent clothing, lycra, dark clothing?
Edited by Byker28i on Monday 24th July 14:00
SuperchargedVR6 said:
Lol, van driver doesn't actually knock cyclist off but still warrants 24 pages of discussion 
Nothing news at it's finest.
Those who ride take issue with some drivers seemingly trying to kill them. Nothing news at it's finest.Those who don't ride think those that do are a scourge of the roads and are always in the wrong/should be banned.
Anyone who is neither didn't notice this thread get onto it's 2nd page.
NDA said:
M-SportMatt said:
I was driving locally on Saturday and our local drayman from the local brewer was out delivering on his horse and cart
How lovely and quaint. We don't have any local draymen in our area. Thousands of feckin cyclists though.Ares said:
DoubleD said:
Ares said:
DoubleD said:
mybrainhurts said:
Randy Winkman said:
As a keen cyclist for years I'd not have considered myself safer by moving to the right. That would just make it easier for people to skim past with complete disregard.
So you think it's ok to baulk motorised traffic at 10mph on a 50mph slip road, then?I'd say with a high degree of certainty the dominant issue was the attitude of the driver, not the exact lane position of the cyclist
DoubleD said:
If the van driver was making a point, then the point he was making was that the cyclist was riding in the middle of the road. So if the cyclist had been nearer the edge, the van driver wouldnt of had a point to prove so wouldnt be wanting to swerv towards him. Therefore whichever way you look at it the cyclist would have been safer if he had been nearer the edge.
I'm quite sure that was the Van driver's issue. Maybe his cargo of flying pigs distracted him? Or the Blue Moon was dazzling him. 
Byker28i said:
Possible a subject for a separate thread, but is it time to ban cyclists from major roads?
There's usually a MAMIL (Middle-aged Man In Lycra) holding up traffic on A roads these days, especially when the Tour de France is on.
Even when you get past, they catch up at traffic lights, ride the pavement to get to the front of the queue and hold everyone up again.
You can usually find them riding in the middle of the road, because it's safest (not in the gutter - I get that) and then gesturing when you overtake because you hadn't given them the space they deemed appropriate, despite the fact you've passed as far as possible on the other side of the road.
Heaven help you if you come across a calamity, sorry peleton, of weekend riders, two or three abreast. "We've got every right to be here, we've got cameras you know" as they ride blocking NSL roads at 10-15mph.
So an easier life for everyone. Cyclists can't ride on major roads unless there's a bike lane, thus avoiding the major cause of friction. Less interaction at speed means less accidents, less reasons for cyclists/motorists to complain. With the major roads freed up, drivers will be more tolerant when coming across riders on minor roads.
Sorted.
Right, now about antisocial Horse Riders
At what age do you need to stop wearing Lycra on a bike ? my neighbour is seventy odd and still rocks the Lycra look because he has cycled all these years he can do, I am sat here in Lycra now having just done 20 miles, you should try it if you dont look like a sack of potatoesThere's usually a MAMIL (Middle-aged Man In Lycra) holding up traffic on A roads these days, especially when the Tour de France is on.
Even when you get past, they catch up at traffic lights, ride the pavement to get to the front of the queue and hold everyone up again.
You can usually find them riding in the middle of the road, because it's safest (not in the gutter - I get that) and then gesturing when you overtake because you hadn't given them the space they deemed appropriate, despite the fact you've passed as far as possible on the other side of the road.
Heaven help you if you come across a calamity, sorry peleton, of weekend riders, two or three abreast. "We've got every right to be here, we've got cameras you know" as they ride blocking NSL roads at 10-15mph.
So an easier life for everyone. Cyclists can't ride on major roads unless there's a bike lane, thus avoiding the major cause of friction. Less interaction at speed means less accidents, less reasons for cyclists/motorists to complain. With the major roads freed up, drivers will be more tolerant when coming across riders on minor roads.
Sorted.
Right, now about antisocial Horse Riders
As for when the Tour De France is on, really ? could that be because the TDF is in summer, when it is warm and dry, just a thought, though I go all year on mine, I sometimes prefer the darker, colder months, though it offers less opportunities for displaying myself in skin tight clothing.
If you could quantify cyclist hold ups as a percentage of total journey time over the year, it would be utterly miniscule compared to sitting behind other cars, bit nobody notices that, like pigs in s
t behind cars, instant rage and Daily Mail comments section diatribes forming in their heads if stuck for a little while behind a bike, you have wasted more time typing and reading replies on here than you have actually been incovenienced by cyclists (they dont pay road tax you know)J4CKO said:
Byker28i said:
Possible a subject for a separate thread, but is it time to ban cyclists from major roads?
There's usually a MAMIL (Middle-aged Man In Lycra) holding up traffic on A roads these days, especially when the Tour de France is on.
Even when you get past, they catch up at traffic lights, ride the pavement to get to the front of the queue and hold everyone up again.
You can usually find them riding in the middle of the road, because it's safest (not in the gutter - I get that) and then gesturing when you overtake because you hadn't given them the space they deemed appropriate, despite the fact you've passed as far as possible on the other side of the road.
Heaven help you if you come across a calamity, sorry peleton, of weekend riders, two or three abreast. "We've got every right to be here, we've got cameras you know" as they ride blocking NSL roads at 10-15mph.
So an easier life for everyone. Cyclists can't ride on major roads unless there's a bike lane, thus avoiding the major cause of friction. Less interaction at speed means less accidents, less reasons for cyclists/motorists to complain. With the major roads freed up, drivers will be more tolerant when coming across riders on minor roads.
Sorted.
Right, now about antisocial Horse Riders
At what age do you need to stop wearing Lycra on a bike ? my neighbour is seventy odd and still rocks the Lycra look because he has cycled all these years he can do, I am sat here in Lycra now having just done 20 miles, you should try it if you dont look like a sack of potatoesThere's usually a MAMIL (Middle-aged Man In Lycra) holding up traffic on A roads these days, especially when the Tour de France is on.
Even when you get past, they catch up at traffic lights, ride the pavement to get to the front of the queue and hold everyone up again.
You can usually find them riding in the middle of the road, because it's safest (not in the gutter - I get that) and then gesturing when you overtake because you hadn't given them the space they deemed appropriate, despite the fact you've passed as far as possible on the other side of the road.
Heaven help you if you come across a calamity, sorry peleton, of weekend riders, two or three abreast. "We've got every right to be here, we've got cameras you know" as they ride blocking NSL roads at 10-15mph.
So an easier life for everyone. Cyclists can't ride on major roads unless there's a bike lane, thus avoiding the major cause of friction. Less interaction at speed means less accidents, less reasons for cyclists/motorists to complain. With the major roads freed up, drivers will be more tolerant when coming across riders on minor roads.
Sorted.
Right, now about antisocial Horse Riders
As for when the Tour De France is on, really ? could that be because the TDF is in summer, when it is warm and dry, just a thought, though I go all year on mine, I sometimes prefer the darker, colder months, though it offers less opportunities for displaying myself in skin tight clothing.
If you could quantify cyclist hold ups as a percentage of total journey time over the year, it would be utterly miniscule compared to sitting behind other cars, bit nobody notices that, like pigs in s
t behind cars, instant rage and Daily Mail comments section diatribes forming in their heads if stuck for a little while behind a bike, you have wasted more time typing and reading replies on here than you have actually been incovenienced by cyclists (they dont pay road tax you know)
Ares said:
Those who ride take issue with some drivers seemingly trying to kill them.
Those who don't ride think those that do are a scourge of the roads and are always in the wrong/should be banned.
Anyone who is neither didn't notice this thread get onto it's 2nd page.
Wrong Those who don't ride think those that do are a scourge of the roads and are always in the wrong/should be banned.
Anyone who is neither didn't notice this thread get onto it's 2nd page.
Its about numpty road users including numpty drivers and numpty cyclists
When the two meet we get a long thread
Most drivers and most cyclists dont warrant a thread
Ares said:
SuperchargedVR6 said:
Lol, van driver doesn't actually knock cyclist off but still warrants 24 pages of discussion Nothing news at it's finest.
Those who ride take issue with some drivers seemingly trying to kill them. Nothing news at it's finest.Those who don't ride think those that do are a scourge of the roads and are always in the wrong/should be banned.
Anyone who is neither didn't notice this thread get onto it's 2nd page.
t turning up the melodrama. No one tried to kill anyone you cretin!frisbee said:
cb1965 said:
Oh here's another tt turning up the melodrama. No one tried to kill anyone you cretin!
Did your parents make you ride your sister's hand me down bike when you were growing up or something?t turning up the melodrama. No one tried to kill anyone you cretin!
can you two try keep to the topic rather than taking pop at other posterssaaby93 said:
Ares said:
Those who ride take issue with some drivers seemingly trying to kill them.
Those who don't ride think those that do are a scourge of the roads and are always in the wrong/should be banned.
Anyone who is neither didn't notice this thread get onto it's 2nd page.
Wrong Those who don't ride think those that do are a scourge of the roads and are always in the wrong/should be banned.
Anyone who is neither didn't notice this thread get onto it's 2nd page.
Its about numpty road users including numpty drivers and numpty cyclists
When the two meet we get a long thread
Most drivers and most cyclists dont warrant a thread
The cyclist here wasn't being a numpty? Aside from not riding on that road because a van driver might perform a stupid and dangerous move, what else could he have done? He didn't contravene any rules of the road/Highway Code.
cb1965 said:
Ares said:
SuperchargedVR6 said:
Lol, van driver doesn't actually knock cyclist off but still warrants 24 pages of discussion Nothing news at it's finest.
Those who ride take issue with some drivers seemingly trying to kill them. Nothing news at it's finest.Those who don't ride think those that do are a scourge of the roads and are always in the wrong/should be banned.
Anyone who is neither didn't notice this thread get onto it's 2nd page.
t turning up the melodrama. No one tried to kill anyone you cretin!t" - schools out?I'll invite you to read what I wrote again and highlight where I said someone did try to kill anyone.
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