RE: Ford Shelby Mustang GT350R: Driven
Discussion
Is Ford limiting GT350 supply to generate demand like Porsche RS brand?
Ford could sell these in UK for £80k plus I would say, if they limited supply. Then it goes toe to toe with Evora 410, M3 CS & Cayman GT4.
If it was my £80k I would find it hard to walk past an Evora 410 to a Ford Mustang, even a very special one.
Those carbon wheels might work in the US but UKs best pot holes would destroy them, and that's before my wife has had a chance to attack the nearest kerb!!
Then I guess the wheels need to be junked.
hondansx said:
g7jhp said:
1,660kg is lardy, even with carbon fibre wheels which would be ruined quickly.
A 996 turbo is lighter, quicker, cheaper and will take 4 people (small ones in the back)!
You say that like a 996T is some kind of deft sports car! It is in no way a track day car. I imagine this Mustang is much better to drive, and quicker than a 996T. It would also sound a lot, lot better than a boring 911 Turbo lump (had two Turbos, before anyone jumps on me).A 996 turbo is lighter, quicker, cheaper and will take 4 people (small ones in the back)!
It's also second hand, so is an unknown quantity. Not to mention more expensive to run in general.
A friend has one. Nice car, but definitely a classic in todays terms. And there's no way it would touch the Mustang on performance. My Focus RS can stay on the bumper of the 996T, so the Mustang would be in another county....
Rick1.8t said:
g7jhp said:
Rick1.8t said:
g7jhp said:
1,660kg is lardy, even with carbon fibre wheels which would be ruined quickly.
A 996 turbo is lighter, quicker, cheaper and will take 4 people (small ones in the back)!
Im not sure what a 15 year old porsche has to do with anything and is a completely silly comparison to a brand new car - no?A 996 turbo is lighter, quicker, cheaper and will take 4 people (small ones in the back)!
If you go down this route you could compare buying an older M3 to a new 116d, a second hand jacket to a new one from primark etc etc.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2017...
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2017...
Also if you want to compare apples with apples a Cayman costs a smidge over 50k:
Cayman
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/porsche/718-cayman/cou...
Or if you take into account the average of a 15k mark up by the dealers:
Cayman
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2017...
RacerMike said:
I'm also assuming no one has looked at 996T prices recently?
A friend has one. Nice car, but definitely a classic in todays terms. And there's no way it would touch the Mustang on performance. My Focus RS can stay on the bumper of the 996T, so the Mustang would be in another county....
A friend has one. Nice car, but definitely a classic in todays terms. And there's no way it would touch the Mustang on performance. My Focus RS can stay on the bumper of the 996T, so the Mustang would be in another county....
You must have a very special Focus if it can stay on the bumper of a fit 996TT all the way to 190 mph. I don't think a GT350R would go past either.
g7jhp said:
1,660kg is lardy, even with carbon fibre wheels which would be ruined quickly.
A 996 turbo is lighter, quicker, cheaper and will take 4 people (small ones in the back)!
996 turbo isn't lighter in any meaningful way, having owned a 911 the rear seats are good for fA 996 turbo is lighter, quicker, cheaper and will take 4 people (small ones in the back)!
k all but your luggage and isn't any quicker in fact officially it's slower in terms of acceleration than this GT350R.As for cheaper? That depends on whether you want to run a shed or pony up to run a sorted 15-17 year old 911 and if it's the latter then that isn't a cheap exercise.
The thing just sounds epic.
https://youtu.be/VJG5kXNpGAg
I can't see how this thing would fail to make any petrolhead smile. What a noise!
https://youtu.be/VJG5kXNpGAg
I can't see how this thing would fail to make any petrolhead smile. What a noise!
If you want a 911, buy a 911. If you want a BM, buy a BM. Good for you, I won't try to talk you out of it! Everyone has their own personal motoring nirvana and short of something 4 or 5 or 10 times the price (458 or F12 TdF or Aventador or something) a GT350R is mine. No pretence, no BS. Looks (to me anyway) fantastic, pretty good chassis, epic engine, manual gearbox and primeval noise. Perfection 
If it comes I guess numbers will be limited and I hope Ford do the same as they did with the GT in trying to stop the cars going to speculators. As an early orderer of a (Mustang) GT back in Jan 15 I just hope that I'm on their list!
If it comes I guess numbers will be limited and I hope Ford do the same as they did with the GT in trying to stop the cars going to speculators. As an early orderer of a (Mustang) GT back in Jan 15 I just hope that I'm on their list!
Bladedancer said:
Sadly 65k USD will probably mean 65k GBP or 70K EUR.
I'm expecting UK pricing to be similar to the Corvette. The top of the range Corvette is ~$70k, but £90k in the UK (from Chevrolet UK with full UK warranty for a left hand drive car) and can be spec'd to over £100k without much trouble. I am expecting Ford to price it to slightly under cut a decently spec'd C63s, which is madness when you compare everything other than the performance between the two cars. I would hope Ford would price the GT350 about the same as the current VXR8, which is more powerful and a larger car, so about £60k. I am expecting limited edition shenanigans from Ford UK over the GT350 to try and protect from discounts on the price as well (decent discounts are available on the C63 and M4 for example). When I recently looked at a new Mustang I had a few local dealers trying to tell me the car was hard to get hold off when I pushed for a discount, yet I had my pick of ready available cars to choose from.
I love this car, mainly because its giving the middle finger to hybrid and electric cars.
Ford could have bolted on a supercharger and sent it on its way, but instead went to town on it, and just look at what they have come up with.
In many ways, this reminds me of the days where Car manufacturers made cars for the fun of it, and not just to fill a gap in the market that doesn't exist. Cars like the Clio V6, BMW Z3m Coupe and Megane R26R.
Well done Ford.
Ford could have bolted on a supercharger and sent it on its way, but instead went to town on it, and just look at what they have come up with.
In many ways, this reminds me of the days where Car manufacturers made cars for the fun of it, and not just to fill a gap in the market that doesn't exist. Cars like the Clio V6, BMW Z3m Coupe and Megane R26R.
Well done Ford.
I feel a lot are mixing up 996 and 997 Turbo's. I can't see an old 996 living with the Mustang and as already discussed, the 996 is too old to be considered a modern sharp steer, and not old enough to have that throw back, old school, air cooled, 993 coolness.
Edited by RumbleOfThunder on Thursday 20th July 14:57
RumbleOfThunder said:
I feel a lot are mixing up 996 and 997 Turbo's. I can't see an old 996 living with the Mustang and as already discussed, the 996 is too old to be considered a modern sharp steer, and not old enough to have that throw back, old school, air cooled, 993 coolness.
Which probably means it's time to buy because prices will be low and people will soon start thinking about it as of a youngtimer.Edited by RumbleOfThunder on Thursday 20th July 14:57
Bladedancer said:
Sadly 65k USD will probably mean 65k GBP or 70K EUR.
The MRSP is $67K, but you will need to pay a hefty dealer markup to get a GT350R, and need to add sales tax in the USA, usually around 8%, but there are dodges, then 10% duty and 20% VAT on importation to the UK. Think more like £110K here with freight and IVA conversion costs.
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