RE: Daihatsu Charade GTti: You Know You Want To

RE: Daihatsu Charade GTti: You Know You Want To

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jjones

4,426 posts

193 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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Had one for four years. Amazing car well ahead of its time. Friend still has one tucked up in his garage.

s m

23,223 posts

203 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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helix402 said:
I think the article needs a little more research. I remember it's launch and a front page cover on Autocar or Motor. I think the 0-60 was quoted at 7.9 or 7.7 seconds. A couple of seconds research on Google finds this:

http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/archive/article/...
Yes, these were certainly quicker than the early 205s in a straight line - it was only really the 1.9s that would out-accelerate one markedly.
They were pretty tail-happy little things if you lifted off coming into a corner - car stability systems have really tamed things down since then.

Used to see a few of these locally up until about 5 years ago - a guy not too far away and his friends had several between them, the noise ( especially with a louder exhaust and a few mods ) really was like an old mini-911

s m

23,223 posts

203 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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ian2144 said:
Great wee car......It sounded somewhere between a 5 pot quattro and 911. Happy days.











AllanGTti

2 posts

170 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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Had quite a few GTtis and used to own the most famous one the ex works rally car used in the Lombard Rally.

I got into these years ago when I had a thirsty Impreza and was looking for something fun but economical. What I found is they really respond to tuning like few other cars and its very easy to take it from a nippy gti perfomance hatch into something genuinely terrifying and Impreza beating.

One of mine had some very minor tweaks to the suspension, braided brake lines and an exhaust and induction kit and was an absolute hoot to drive and could easilly keep up with vastly more powerful cars on twisty roads. Was more fun than my Impreza.

I still have a GTti. Probably one of the best in the country in my opinion.

Jaybee1981

52 posts

119 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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Had one as my first car, Would love to buy it back.

K8 KAR

ian2144

1,665 posts

222 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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s m said:
ian2144 said:
Great wee car......It sounded somewhere between a 5 pot quattro and 911. Happy days.








I had this magazine article for years.......alway an interesting read. It defused a few arguments I can tell you.

JimGTxx

270 posts

203 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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"Don't expect a phenomenally quick car, mind you. The GTti's 1.0-litre three-pot turbo meant it was never going to challenge, say, a Peugeot 205 GTI for hot hatch supremacy. "

lol! Having owned several of both, you would be wrong there.
The 1.6 GTI was not as punchy. There was very little in it between the 1.9 and a standard GTti.
Just a change of the downpipe (to a less restrictive one)on the GTti made it accelerate quicker than the 205 1.9 GTI, without raising boost at all.

Both standard, the 205 handled WAY better though and was less prone to tin-worm......

oversteerer

104 posts

161 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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Nostalgia! I remember lusting after one of these when I was 21. I couldn't afford one so I bought an Astra SRI instead.

oversteerer

104 posts

161 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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The sub 8 second 0-60 time made it very appealing. IIRC, the only affordable hot hatches at the time (late 80s) that had sub 8 sec 0-60 times were the Renault 5 turbo, 205 1.9 and the Astra GTE 16v

mx5ian

467 posts

190 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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spodrod said:
Is it just me or does the front ride height look too high?
Yes it is, maybe standard Charade springs instead of GTTI?


Ziplobb

1,358 posts

284 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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My sister had one if these and I had a Swift GTi - driven both of the a lot and on the road not a lot between them - both could 'do' anything with XR on the back

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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Drove one back in 1994 I think - collecting it for a friend from its MOT.

The noise was very appealing and the boost gauge was from memory an illuminated thing on the dash a bit like an indicator in the dash.

It felt fast - I drove a stbox Meastro 1.6L so different league. A lot of fun handled massively better (though mu maestro had shot shocks ..)

I'd never buy one tin worm was a problem and as his was red paint fade was shocking.

TypeR555

10 posts

93 months

Sunday 23rd July 2017
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I had one of these as my first car, absolutely loved it, the off beat sound of the 3 cylinder engine was amazing but it went through 3 engines and in the end I'd just had enough and moved to more reliable Honda Type R's (the PH Heroes EK9 is mine). From time to time I still look on eBay to see if theres any decent ones for sale but with the demise of Daihatsu in the UK I've given up now as I can imagine getting parts being a bit of a nightmare.


LewisR

678 posts

215 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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Are people really getting excited about a 3-cylinder front wheel drive hatchback ?

cuprabob

14,614 posts

214 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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LewisR said:
Are people really getting excited about a 3-cylinder front wheel drive hatchback ?
It's not really excitement it's nostalgia.

Cars were so.much fun to drive in those days with no driver aids and relatively light.

s m

23,223 posts

203 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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cuprabob said:
LewisR said:
Are people really getting excited about a 3-cylinder front wheel drive hatchback ?
It's not really excitement it's nostalgia.

Cars were so.much fun to drive in those days with no driver aids and relatively light.
Much more exciting to me to read about than some electric limo or massive slushbox diesel Jag/BMW/Audi or road rage/cyclist encounter

Chacun a son gout though...

cuprabob

14,614 posts

214 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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s m said:
cuprabob said:
LewisR said:
Are people really getting excited about a 3-cylinder front wheel drive hatchback ?
It's not really excitement it's nostalgia.

Cars were so.much fun to drive in those days with no driver aids and relatively light.
Much more exciting to me to read about than some electric limo or massive slushbox diesel Jag/BMW/Audi or road rage/cyclist encounter

Chacun a son gout though...
I can't disagree with you...

rossub

4,442 posts

190 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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LewisR said:
Are people really getting excited about a 3-cylinder front wheel drive hatchback ?
Yes. Close the door on your way out.

LewisR

678 posts

215 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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cuprabob said:
LewisR said:
Are people really getting excited about a 3-cylinder front wheel drive hatchback ?
It's not really excitement it's nostalgia.

Cars were so.much fun to drive in those days with no driver aids and relatively light.
OK, I kind of accept the nostalgia aspect.

I'm well aware of what cars were then but from a driver-enthusiast point of view, which I perhaps erroneously thought most cars here would be judged on, there must have been far better options for similar money available from then.

H-plate 1990 is Mk1 MX5 territory and countless 6-cylinder RWD BMWs. Nissan 200 SX if you wanted to keep it Japanese and have 4 seats.

Edited by LewisR on Monday 24th July 13:56

oversteerer

104 posts

161 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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The 1990 Mx-5 cost twice as much and was slower than the Gtti. The 325i and 200sx were obviously far more expensive. In the late eighties and early nineties, for most of us, the FWD hot hatch was the only affordable young person's performance option - preferably with a turbo smile