Powerful Audis still being targeted by scum
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So here's the £1 million question. What potentially is the priciest motor that you could realistically drive around in - without said motor being on the radar of the gangs?
- Older vehicles might be less desirable - but then again it doesn't always work.*
- Two doors instead of four - since many of these faster vehicles are used for robberies where four blokes need to pile in/out of them.
- Distinctive - e.g. a bright dayglow car or unique appearance that makes it virtually impossible to simply swap plates over and pass it off as another.
- Older vehicles might be less desirable - but then again it doesn't always work.*
- Two doors instead of four - since many of these faster vehicles are used for robberies where four blokes need to pile in/out of them.
- Distinctive - e.g. a bright dayglow car or unique appearance that makes it virtually impossible to simply swap plates over and pass it off as another.
- Totally different level of crime (tends to be plain vehicle theft rather than hijacking) - but one of the reasons I stick with my ratty old Disco 2 was that Defenders (of any age) are rapidly becoming the rural thieves' pick of choice - has been that way for a long time and has only gotten worse since the prices on them went mad. I can leave my Disco parked up anywhere and not really worry about anyone wanting to nick it - I couldn't say the same with a Defender now.
HedgeyGedgey said:
Car theft is pretty bad in Birmingham tbh, nearly got knocked over by a brand new focus rs that had no number plates on in Small Heath a few months back. I do know gangs like this will stash cars away in compounds or car parks to wait for trackers etc and then move them a week later if it's still where they left it. Our car park is a bit funny where I live for uni, nice cars, posh Audis/BMWs get blocked into the corner against a large brick wall with all number plates removed. Always gets me how they get in, as a special pass is needed to get through the automated gates. Not there atm, otherwise I'd say I'll keep my eyes peeled in the spots I know of
I feel insanely self conscious when driving something nice in Birmingham, been followed several times there by odd looking people.LandRoverManiac said:
So here's the £1 million question. What potentially is the priciest motor that you could realistically drive around in - without said motor being on the radar of the gangs?
- Older vehicles might be less desirable - but then again it doesn't always work.*
- Two doors instead of four - since many of these faster vehicles are used for robberies where four blokes need to pile in/out of them.
- Distinctive - e.g. a bright dayglow car or unique appearance that makes it virtually impossible to simply swap plates over and pass it off as another.
I think you'd have to go really pricey. Rolls Royce for example or hypercar, something so rare or unique that's it's impossible to sell on or pointless breaking up.- Older vehicles might be less desirable - but then again it doesn't always work.*
- Two doors instead of four - since many of these faster vehicles are used for robberies where four blokes need to pile in/out of them.
- Distinctive - e.g. a bright dayglow car or unique appearance that makes it virtually impossible to simply swap plates over and pass it off as another.
- Totally different level of crime (tends to be plain vehicle theft rather than hijacking) - but one of the reasons I stick with my ratty old Disco 2 was that Defenders (of any age) are rapidly becoming the rural thieves' pick of choice - has been that way for a long time and has only gotten worse since the prices on them went mad. I can leave my Disco parked up anywhere and not really worry about anyone wanting to nick it - I couldn't say the same with a Defender now.
AshBurrows said:
Jonmx said:
Personally, I'm too far the other way, I'll even pull into a bus stop and let vehicles pass if I think they've been following me too long. Unlikely I'll be targeted for a £200 Mondeo LX but I still risk assess all the time.
I think I said it on the S3 thread back along, but when I was in Birmingham a few years ago in my 123D Coupe I got followed by a group of lads in a car. I took the tactical option of booting it when I hit the motorway. It may well have been some young lads wanting to get a look at what was at the time quite a flash car, but I wasn't going to take that risk.
Really?!I think I said it on the S3 thread back along, but when I was in Birmingham a few years ago in my 123D Coupe I got followed by a group of lads in a car. I took the tactical option of booting it when I hit the motorway. It may well have been some young lads wanting to get a look at what was at the time quite a flash car, but I wasn't going to take that risk.
And in answer to the expensive car to drive around in without attracting attention, I think a Bristol Blenheim might do the trick. This one's up for a touch under £60k and is certainly not flash enough for the thieving skiplickers to pay attention to. Looks like an old BL product, but I quite like them.
adamgti said:
If this was TH Jnr's wife, then it seems a little unfortunate that one of his Instagram posts featured an RS6 illuminated sill plate, with words along the lines of "wife's new car is awesome, thinking of hijacking it"!
Maybe he did it, and it's all a publicity stunt? The story does sound slightly odd.Top lurking, by the way.
Sheepshanks said:
adamgti said:
If this was TH Jnr's wife, then it seems a little unfortunate that one of his Instagram posts featured an RS6 illuminated sill plate, with words along the lines of "wife's new car is awesome, thinking of hijacking it"!
Maybe he did it, and it's all a publicity stunt? The story does sound slightly odd.Top lurking, by the way.
I've started living in Solihull quite recently, the area that this happened in is really not where you'd expect this sort of thing to take place. It's a nice place to live, Birmingham is 7-8 miles away, however the only crime I've ever really known to take place here has been car thefts, always out of town b
ds coming in to steal to order. My neighbour has a number of years ago, had his keys taken in the night, his car was only a Passat. It's a shame that the woman in the article didn't have a chance to speed away and avoid this ordeal
ds coming in to steal to order. My neighbour has a number of years ago, had his keys taken in the night, his car was only a Passat. It's a shame that the woman in the article didn't have a chance to speed away and avoid this ordealLandRoverManiac said:
So here's the £1 million question. What potentially is the priciest motor that you could realistically drive around in - without said motor being on the radar of the gangs?
Sub £5kI know of an Audi A3 that went in Solihull - 3 masked men kicked down the house door and a Mini that went the same way.
My mate's Dad (around 20 yrs ago) had someone bump into his MK1 Golf Cab in Knowle and when he got out to look at the damage / exchange details they pushed him to the floor and stole it - so it's not a new crime.
It really affected him, he never had a late car again and drove an old fiesta for years he even put bars on his windows at home.
You guys reckon the people who carried it out are stting it now they've found who who exactly they car jacked?
I would hazard a guess that people like Hartley n Co (and even Aleem PET Rental also based in Birmingham) have some underworld connections which act a deterrent. I would doubt that there highly publicised multi million pound stocks of supercars of which the whereabouts and storage is public knowledge have been kept safe by just pure luck and CCTV.
I assume the revenge will be pretty serious given the situation where they've pulled his wife and daughter out the car.
tting it now they've found who who exactly they car jacked? I would hazard a guess that people like Hartley n Co (and even Aleem PET Rental also based in Birmingham) have some underworld connections which act a deterrent. I would doubt that there highly publicised multi million pound stocks of supercars of which the whereabouts and storage is public knowledge have been kept safe by just pure luck and CCTV.
I assume the revenge will be pretty serious given the situation where they've pulled his wife and daughter out the car.
TopGear7 said:
You guys reckon the people who carried it out are stting it now they've found who who exactly they car jacked?
I would hazard a guess that people like Hartley n Co (and even Aleem PET Rental also based in Birmingham) have some underworld connections which act a deterrent. I would doubt that there highly publicised multi million pound stocks of supercars of which the whereabouts and storage is public knowledge have been kept safe by just pure luck and CCTV.
I assume the revenge will be pretty serious given the situation where they've pulled his wife and daughter out the car.
I am not sure about the Hartley guy as I don't know much, but Aleems family home is very close to where I live now. The same road in fact. As for underworld connections, probably yes, I read years ago about his father's alleged criminal ties and activities, and neighbours know who he is. As for any of their cars, you pass through more than one gate to get to Aleems drive way, and his house is set back far from the road. Considering where our houses are, and the other cars on peoples driveways, it would not be a sensible idea to try any take a car from him when there's less risky options on the very same road, and in some cases, just as nice cars to steal. tting it now they've found who who exactly they car jacked? I would hazard a guess that people like Hartley n Co (and even Aleem PET Rental also based in Birmingham) have some underworld connections which act a deterrent. I would doubt that there highly publicised multi million pound stocks of supercars of which the whereabouts and storage is public knowledge have been kept safe by just pure luck and CCTV.
I assume the revenge will be pretty serious given the situation where they've pulled his wife and daughter out the car.
Jonmx said:
Sheepshanks said:
adamgti said:
If this was TH Jnr's wife, then it seems a little unfortunate that one of his Instagram posts featured an RS6 illuminated sill plate, with words along the lines of "wife's new car is awesome, thinking of hijacking it"!
Maybe he did it, and it's all a publicity stunt? The story does sound slightly odd.Top lurking, by the way.
I also noticed in the Instagram post comments that two weeks ago, someone mentioned that the RS6 is a car jackers favourite! It beggars belief.
Is there a problem with locating the theives/cars or is it to do with the punishment not being a deterrent?
I'm sick of people committing pre-meditated crimes like car jacking and nothing been done. It's disgusting. I'm not wanting some totalitarian society but decent people shouldn't be scared to own a nice car.
I'm sick of people committing pre-meditated crimes like car jacking and nothing been done. It's disgusting. I'm not wanting some totalitarian society but decent people shouldn't be scared to own a nice car.
A handy feature for cars like these has been created by a company up here in the north east:
https://www.facebook.com/BassMechanix%20/
They call it the ghost immobiliser, works flawlessly. Worth looking into if you have something worth the hassle of nicking, doubt anyone would want my 1.6 X trail.........
https://www.facebook.com/BassMechanix%20/
They call it the ghost immobiliser, works flawlessly. Worth looking into if you have something worth the hassle of nicking, doubt anyone would want my 1.6 X trail.........
RigbyE61 said:
Jonmx said:
You make some pretty big assumptions. Ignorance is not a defence in the eyes of the law, but you have to be some kind of special to say that to a victim of a carjacking. I can assure you there are many owners of RS, AMG and M model cars that will be completely oblivious to the fact that their vehicles are desirable to thieves. Does that make them naïve, possibly, does it justify them being held up at knifepoint, absolutely not.
The woman in this photo hasn't even noticed the guy taking her picture. A prime spot for taking a car as she's out of the vehicle and the keys are to hand.
Little bit off topic and sorry to waste your point but I know that car and it isn't the Grandmothers, its her grandsons. I live in the same town and while he does let her drive it its mostly so it can go viral, and did. He has now changed cars, about 6 times since then I think! to say that to a victim of a carjacking. I can assure you there are many owners of RS, AMG and M model cars that will be completely oblivious to the fact that their vehicles are desirable to thieves. Does that make them naïve, possibly, does it justify them being held up at knifepoint, absolutely not.The woman in this photo hasn't even noticed the guy taking her picture. A prime spot for taking a car as she's out of the vehicle and the keys are to hand.
It's sickening to see more and more posts like this on here. I'm worried these posts are only the tip of the iceberg.
Depressing when you see PHers not buying nice cars because they don't want the hassle of someone breaking into their house.
Can there really a solution to this? I can't see manufacturers using bio security to start cars as these sub human scum would just start getting handy with machetes at 3 in the morning.
More money put back into street policing would go a long way.
Glad to see mother and baby are well, that's all that matters.
Depressing when you see PHers not buying nice cars because they don't want the hassle of someone breaking into their house.
Can there really a solution to this? I can't see manufacturers using bio security to start cars as these sub human scum would just start getting handy with machetes at 3 in the morning.
More money put back into street policing would go a long way.
Glad to see mother and baby are well, that's all that matters.
V8RX7 said:
It really affected him, he never had a late car again and drove an old fiesta for years he even put bars on his windows at home.
I had my garage emptied a few years ago - motorbikes stolen along with tools and a lot of other stuff that the insurer weaseled out of paying for. The ramifications for subsequent insurance have been bad; three motorbikes and two cars where both named drivers have a total loss claim (one bike was the OHs) - it's been through the roof. Not to mention the house insurance who classed it as two claims (one for building damage, one for theft).Anyway - back to the point there by V8RX7 - even a simple burglary like that has affected me badly, and there was no violence involved (although the thieves did draw a picture of a motorbike with "ha ha" written under it on the window). I have regular nightmares about getting my bikes stolen again (I had one the night before last), I can't park anywhere without having panic attacks, the arse with all the extra locks and keys and security and the constant (and it is constant) boiling rage and fury at who did this to me. Genuinely - it's made me ill and I really wish them dead. The OH works from home but today she isn't there and I'm absolutely s
tting it that we will be robbed when she is out or my cats will get hurt.There's always some nob on PH who says something like "well move to a nice area, then", because everyone on PH appears to live in "a village", right? I *do* live in a very nice area, however thieves to have access to cars and vans, and if your property is off the road and hidden then you really can't do much about it.
Even more annoying these days is the way that the Police seem to have removed any sort of involvement in the level of theft in the UK (be it down to funding or IPCC meddling) and basically it's down to insurers to (maybe) pick up the tab. These days folk just expect to have nice things taken from them.
A nice area is determined to be a nice area due to it being perceived as better than the ones around it. In other words, it will be surrounded by less nice areas by definition.
If you have a nice area next to a not so nice one, where do you think the ne'er do wells from the not so nice one will go to do their 'shopping'?
Here in Leeds some of the worst areas for vehicle related thefts are some of the nicest, most expensive areas (Calverley, for example). It has plenty of money and good routes in and out for escape, not to mention a fairly awful estate alongside it (one of those not so nice areas).
Sad that you have to consider the risks of robbery or hijacking, however these are the times we live in. Take sensible precautions and try not to put yourself into a position of conflict. If people want your car and are determined to get it, let them have it. It can easily be replaced, unlike your loved ones or your health (or worse).
If you have a nice area next to a not so nice one, where do you think the ne'er do wells from the not so nice one will go to do their 'shopping'?
Here in Leeds some of the worst areas for vehicle related thefts are some of the nicest, most expensive areas (Calverley, for example). It has plenty of money and good routes in and out for escape, not to mention a fairly awful estate alongside it (one of those not so nice areas).
Sad that you have to consider the risks of robbery or hijacking, however these are the times we live in. Take sensible precautions and try not to put yourself into a position of conflict. If people want your car and are determined to get it, let them have it. It can easily be replaced, unlike your loved ones or your health (or worse).
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