Ford Mustang

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carl_w

9,178 posts

258 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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wormus said:
I'd be tempted by a slightly used one in RHD but it would need a 2.9L Whipple smile

Anyone know why this one is only £140/year tax ?
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
There's enough spec on that to take it over £40k list price, unless the alloys, sound system, etc. were dealer fit rather than factory fit?

ali_XFR

385 posts

171 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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Had a hired 'Stang GT California Special when I drove up the Jebel Jais road in the UAE in April when I was there on holiday. Back seats were very tight for adults, for some strange reason it had been fitted with Mud and Snow tyres which made the handling feel a bit off. It looked good out there but the examples I've seen on U.K. roads seem to be a little bit large. It didn't feel out of place either on the highway from Dubai or up the mountain road. Downside for me was the interior- wasn't as comfortable as my 7 year old XFR. Having said that the Sync system worked a treat and the shaker hood with indicator lights etc was pretty trick. Overall if you want a new rwd V8 coupe that isn't too pricey, it's worth a look.




iSore

4,011 posts

144 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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ali_XFR said:
Had a hired 'Stang GT California Special when I drove up the Jebel Jais road in the UAE in April when I was there on holiday. Back seats were very tight for adults, for some strange reason it had been fitted with Mud and Snow tyres which made the handling feel a bit off. It looked good out there but the examples I've seen on U.K. roads seem to be a little bit large. It didn't feel out of place either on the highway from Dubai or up the mountain road. Downside for me was the interior- wasn't as comfortable as my 7 year old XFR. Having said that the Sync system worked a treat and the shaker hood with indicator lights etc was pretty trick. Overall if you want a new rwd V8 coupe that isn't too pricey, it's worth a look.
Great looking car!

David87

6,652 posts

212 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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The facelift car seems a bit of a monster. eek
http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/future-cars/a...

Superflow

1,399 posts

132 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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Love the look of these cars,will have mine in a loud colour with stripe and a convertible thanks.

iSore

4,011 posts

144 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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David87 said:
The facelift car seems a bit of a monster. eek
http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/future-cars/a...
Jesus! :-o



carl_w

9,178 posts

258 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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David87 said:
The facelift car seems a bit of a monster. eek
http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/future-cars/a...
Even if the front looks a bit melted, I could be seriously interested in one of these with the 10-speed auto.

njw1

2,067 posts

111 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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RobXjcoupe said:
Rover never made a new floorpan when it fitted Ford v8's into its 75 model


Correct, Rover didn't, they gave the job to prodrive who had to massively re-engineer the car to take a rwd layout.





njw1

2,067 posts

111 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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David87 said:
The facelift car seems a bit of a monster. eek
http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/future-cars/a...

I like that a lot. In fact if you told me the Mustang drove like a Morris Marina in the snow, would kill me even if I so much as thought about having a small crash and whole species of endangered animals had to be wiped out to make it I would still want one.

I'm hoping they'll depreciate like a stone but with demand currently seeming to exceed supply I don't think that'll be happening soon.

It's a Ford, with rwd and a V8. What's not to like?


V8 FOU

2,973 posts

147 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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Sold mine after 3 months.
Lovely looking car. Great HVAC. Great seats.Great autobox. Crap, I mean rubbish steering - no feel at all. Main reason I couldn't get on with it. So-so handling. Very poor paint finish. Not very quick - needed to have the nuts revved off it to really go. Lack of torque at low revs.

Shame as I really wanted it. Prefer my GMC van. And that is 1956 with a BB Chevy engine.......

unpc

2,835 posts

213 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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[quote=V8 FOU]Sold mine after 3 months.
Lovely looking car. Great HVAC. Great seats.Great autobox. Crap, I mean rubbish steering - no feel at all. Main reason I couldn't get on with it. So-so handling. Very poor paint finish. Not very quick - needed to have the nuts revved off it to really go. Lack of torque at low revs.

Shame as I really wanted it. Prefer my GMC van. And that is 1956 with a BB Chevy engine.......[/quote

Agreed on the steering feel but it's accurate but almost every modern car I've driven has been the same. I find the handling very good but the tyres are a different matter. They are garbage. Paint finish is very good on mine, certainly way better than my Alpina. Maybe you were unlucky. I'm not sure if you're entirely serious abut the torque though. What are you comparing it to? The power and torque is pretty much linear which in my eyes is ideal.

djc206

12,350 posts

125 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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Peak torque is at 4250rpm and it has more torque at 2000rpm than my RS4 had at peak so to me stepping from the RS4 into the mustang it feels torquey. He's right though it's not actually that fast but it's fast enough and as has been said a few times in this thread with a small amount of money it can be made very quick

bp1

796 posts

208 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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We're waiting to order a 2018 automatic ecoboost in that orange colour - Mrs wants it, her car allowance will pay for it so I didn't argue with her choice smile


mac96

3,771 posts

143 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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njw1 said:
David87 said:
The facelift car seems a bit of a monster. eek
http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/future-cars/a...

I like that a lot. In fact if you told me the Mustang drove like a Morris Marina in the snow, would kill me even if I so much as thought about having a small crash and whole species of endangered animals had to be wiped out to make it I would still want one.

I'm hoping they'll depreciate like a stone but with demand currently seeming to exceed supply I don't think that'll be happening soon.

It's a Ford, with rwd and a V8. What's not to like?
Actually, I think a Morris Marina might be rather fun in the snow. Rear drive, skinny tyres, no power. Better than on a clear road anyway.

KevinCamaroSS

11,629 posts

280 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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RobXjcoupe said:
GroundEffect said:
RobXjcoupe said:
poing said:
RobXjcoupe said:
It's basically a mondeo coupe.... but a v8 version
I'm not sure it's possible for you to be less correct.

Back to the sensible people.

I think they are great, especially in yellow but then I like yellow cars. Saw a nice yellow one the other day and it had a louder exhaust so I followed it around for a while with my window down just to hear it.

I'd imagine that you can use a lot of the aftermarket stuff available for them so it has the option to become very special indeed if you want.
It's the Ford trick to facelift a car to become something better. The current mondeo looks much better with its new face. The current mustang is a mondeo coupe. In the states the mondeo is called a fusion. The tooling was built in Dagenham.
No.

The Mondeo/Fusion platform - CD4.1 - cannot take a North/South installation.

It is its own platform, with its own engines & transmissions.
Rover never made a new floorpan when it fitted Ford v8's into its 75 model
No, because the R75 floorplan was designed with a tunnel in the centre, therefore it could take RWD mechanicals (albeit with much modification). The CD4.1 cannot.

Why do you not simply accept that you are wrong?

willisit

2,142 posts

231 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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Much to echo here - except for the obvious troll (if he isn't, then I've no idea what he's on), there's a lot of good stuff here.

I've had my 5.0 for around 8 months. The steering feel can be fixed very easily and cheaply; the rear subframe and diff mountings are all bushed (on top of each other) so the feeling of the rear being somewhat "free" was, after a few hundred miles, enough for me to think about selling. However, I got a the IRS lockout kit (I forget the actual name) and it's night and day.

A wonderful thing, but it IS too big and long and stupid for our roads; something I quite enjoy. Mine is a toy though - using it daily would drive me nuts at work. £36k (nearer £40k now) was the kicker for me; I couldn't think of much beyond a 10 year old AMV8 or 5/6 year old 911 I'd want more, and the running costs along with them.

Buying with the knowledge it is just a Ford helps immensely. It is what it is, and huge value therein. I love it.

kambites

67,554 posts

221 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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KevinCamaroSS said:
No, because the R75 floorplan was designed with a tunnel in the centre, therefore it could take RWD mechanicals (albeit with much modification). The CD4.1 cannot.
Sorry for going so far off topic, but does that mean there's no longer a 4wd Mondeo available?

Chris Stott

13,360 posts

197 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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A good friend of mine came round in a '17 plate manual V8 on Sunday afternoon. Had a brief drive...

I really like the styling (though not the bright yellow this one was painted). They feel massive to drive... big, heavy and a quite a high driving position.

For something with >400bhp, it didn't feel that fast (and not enough noise from the V8!), and also felt like the rear end was moving laterally slightly when hard on the throttle with lock on - not oversteer, but similar (although less pronounced) to that feel on old live axle cars if the axle wasn't located very well.

Nice enough interior, lots of kit, felt solidly built, nice 'snicky' 'box, sharp clutch with high bite point.

The brakes absolutely ruined the driving experience for me though - so sensitive over the 1st couple of inches of pedal travel that gentle slowing was super tricky, and H&T pretty much impossible unless attempting whilst maximum braking.

16.5mpg showing on the trip computer over it's 1,600 miles.

djc206

12,350 posts

125 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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willisit said:
Much to echo here - except for the obvious troll (if he isn't, then I've no idea what he's on), there's a lot of good stuff here.

I've had my 5.0 for around 8 months. The steering feel can be fixed very easily and cheaply; the rear subframe and diff mountings are all bushed (on top of each other) so the feeling of the rear being somewhat "free" was, after a few hundred miles, enough for me to think about selling. However, I got a the IRS lockout kit (I forget the actual name) and it's night and day.

A wonderful thing, but it IS too big and long and stupid for our roads; something I quite enjoy. Mine is a toy though - using it daily would drive me nuts at work. £36k (nearer £40k now) was the kicker for me; I couldn't think of much beyond a 10 year old AMV8 or 5/6 year old 911 I'd want more, and the running costs along with them.

Buying with the knowledge it is just a Ford helps immensely. It is what it is, and huge value therein. I love it.
I often hear the "it's too big" thing and I have to disagree and it doesn't pass close inspection of the numbers. As I have said before I was driving mine through deepest darkest Cornwall without issue. It's also not too long.

For comparison a new Vauxhall insignia is half an inch wider than the Mustang and 4 inches longer. A Ford Kuga is the same width, the new Ford Mondeo is 2 inches wider and 3 inches longer. None of these cars can be described as too big.

willisit

2,142 posts

231 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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djc206 said:
I often hear the "it's too big" thing and I have to disagree and it doesn't pass close inspection of the numbers. As I have said before I was driving mine through deepest darkest Cornwall without issue. It's also not too long.

For comparison a new Vauxhall insignia is half an inch wider than the Mustang and 4 inches longer. A Ford Kuga is the same width, the new Ford Mondeo is 2 inches wider and 3 inches longer. None of these cars can be described as too big.
That's both your, and my, opinion. A new Insignia is an absolute tank - as is the Mondeo. These cars are now in 5/7 series territory - and the Mustang is a 2 door coupe. So, sure, it's manageable, but I've no intention of going anywhere near a multistory in it.

But that's my opinion, nothing more. I just prefer smaller cars as my daily. smile