Petrol Station Forecourt and Mobile Phones

Petrol Station Forecourt and Mobile Phones

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M-SportMatt

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1,923 posts

138 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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Friday evening on the way home from work i stopped at my local Shell station and filled the tank with diesel, whilst doing this I noticed on the pump an advert for the Shell pay at the pump app which i download and a QR code to identify the pump, no issues with mobile phone use there then.

Sunday evening i stop at a BP on the A38 and fill up, browsing the sports results whilst I do, only for a green haired unshaven gibbon to pop on the tannoy and ask me to stop using my phone, he then proceeds to give me a lecture whilst i'm paying about how i could cause an explosion with 'just one spark from your phone.......' despite me filling up with diesel and i'm fairly sure a huge lack of petrol vapour anywhere.

Seems odd to have such differing policy between arguably the two largest brands. One encouraging it, the other discouraging.

CraftyBanardo

9 posts

121 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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It's absolute bullst, No cell phone will cause an explosion it's a rumour that kept people scared.

It's actually from places like the US where you can press a button on the filler to keep filling (When you take your hand away) people would get in and out of their cars, a bunch of times then touch the pump, possible spark, possible ignition.

A phone is no danger on the forecourt. Just people enforcing rules they have no comprehension of.

r11co

6,244 posts

230 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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M-SportMatt said:
Sunday evening i stop at a BP on the A38 and fill up, browsing the sports results whilst I do, only for a green haired unshaven gibbon to pop on the tannoy and ask me to stop using my phone, he then proceeds to give me a lecture whilst i'm paying about how i could cause an explosion with 'just one spark from your phone.......' despite me filling up with diesel and i'm fairly sure a huge lack of petrol vapour anywhere.
THat old canard! A throwback from the days when CB radio enthusiasts discovered that heavily amplified radio tranmission signals could mess with the primitive electronics of early digital fuel pumps when used in close proximity, hence a ban on radio transmiters in forecourts.

Had nothing to do with safety and it is now an anachronism - a man-made fibre jacket carries more risk.

Ares

11,000 posts

120 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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1) The chance of a spark is less that the static electricity potential risk in exiting your car
2) Shell actually advise scanning the QR code from inside your car.

It's a bit like the no electric devices in hospitals or planes (unless you pay, which removes the risk, seemingly) - As if the tech in either Plane of Hospital would be hindered with a phone.

Conscript

1,378 posts

121 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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Probably more risk of a spark being caused by him using the Tannoy loudspeaker.

Manners2001

144 posts

83 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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I recall watching an episode of Mythbusters where they tried to blow up some petrol with a mobile phone. In the end they had a number of them (c. 20?), all ringing and not a sausage. Myth busted. Still, makes the man in the petrol stations day to use the tannoy!

alangla

4,774 posts

181 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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I always thought the phone ban was more to ensure people actually concentrated on the highly flammable substances passing through the device they were holding, rather than texting/tweeting/checking in on Facebook as many seem to constantly want to do.

M-SportMatt

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138 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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alangla said:
I always thought the phone ban was more to ensure people actually concentrated on the highly flammable substances passing through the device they were holding, rather than texting/tweeting/checking in on Facebook as many seem to constantly want to do.
What's to concentrate on? Hold nozzle, squeeze.....

cuprabob

14,605 posts

214 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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M-SportMatt said:
alangla said:
I always thought the phone ban was more to ensure people actually concentrated on the highly flammable substances passing through the device they were holding, rather than texting/tweeting/checking in on Facebook as many seem to constantly want to do.
What's to concentrate on? Hold nozzle, squeeze.....
Some people even struggle to.put in the correct nozzle...

Hoofy

76,351 posts

282 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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M-SportMatt said:
alangla said:
I always thought the phone ban was more to ensure people actually concentrated on the highly flammable substances passing through the device they were holding, rather than texting/tweeting/checking in on Facebook as many seem to constantly want to do.
What's to concentrate on? Hold nozzle, squeeze.....
Well, you've already failed. You're supposed to put the nozzle in the filling hole and then squeeze the trigger.

alangla

4,774 posts

181 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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M-SportMatt said:
alangla said:
I always thought the phone ban was more to ensure people actually concentrated on the highly flammable substances passing through the device they were holding, rather than texting/tweeting/checking in on Facebook as many seem to constantly want to do.
What's to concentrate on? Hold nozzle, squeeze.....
Given some of the dozy things I've seen people do while holding a phone, keeping the nozzle in the fuel filler is enough of a challenge.

M-SportMatt

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1,923 posts

138 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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Well, only one of them is flammable anyway.........but either way, holding a mobile isn't going to do anything bad whilst pumping fuel

BuzzBravado

2,944 posts

171 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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Off topic, but yesterday some chav kids were throwing these at the ground near the pumps.

http://www.fireworksarcade.co.uk/media/catalog/pro...

Dad then tells them off, gets in the car then does a few himself. tit.

M-SportMatt

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138 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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Hoofy said:
Well, you've already failed. You're supposed to put the nozzle in the filling hole and then squeeze the trigger.
Just the typical PH pedantry I expect...

Hoofy

76,351 posts

282 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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M-SportMatt said:
Hoofy said:
Well, you've already failed. You're supposed to put the nozzle in the filling hole and then squeeze the trigger.
Just the typical PH pedantry I expect...
biggrin

Flibble

6,475 posts

181 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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M-SportMatt said:
alangla said:
I always thought the phone ban was more to ensure people actually concentrated on the highly flammable substances passing through the device they were holding, rather than texting/tweeting/checking in on Facebook as many seem to constantly want to do.
What's to concentrate on? Hold nozzle, squeeze.....
I'd assume they need to concentrate on not pouring fuel all down the side of their vehicle because they've overfilled it. We're not talking about the top of the gene pool here.

M-SportMatt

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Monday 24th July 2017
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Flibble said:
I'd assume they need to concentrate on not pouring fuel all down the side of their vehicle because they've overfilled it. We're not talking about the top of the gene pool here.
Oh come on, when did you last use a pump that didn't click off on overfill? 1987?

None of the above were in the reasons given by the colourful haired young gent anyway, he was concerned about explosions.

BP cannot possibly have said that in their training ,material?


PieSlayer

8,852 posts

187 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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Conscript said:
Probably more risk of a spark being caused by him using the Tannoy loudspeaker.
You mean public address system. Tannoy is a brand name...

robemcdonald

8,778 posts

196 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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Generally there are lots of pointless rules in life. Some make sense and some don't.
When you go to refuel on the pump there will be a picture of an old fashioned mobile phone with a Red Cross over it. This means don't use your phone. The guy behind the tannoy is just enforcing his employers rules i.e just doing his job. It must be a pretty crap job. Why make it more difficult for him? What were you doing that was so important you couldn't leave your phone alone for a few minutes?

M-SportMatt

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Monday 24th July 2017
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robemcdonald said:
Generally there are lots of pointless rules in life. Some make sense and some don't.
When you go to refuel on the pump there will be a picture of an old fashioned mobile phone with a Red Cross over it. This means don't use your phone. The guy behind the tannoy is just enforcing his employers rules i.e just doing his job. It must be a pretty crap job. Why make it more difficult for him? What were you doing that was so important you couldn't leave your phone alone for a few minutes?
Assume you didnt read the OP then

I was querying why Shell encourage it and BP discourage it.......