Petrol Station Forecourt and Mobile Phones
Discussion
btdk5 said:
Can you somehow ignite petrol with cigarettes now?
Probably not no, but I assume the spark from the lighter and if there were any residual fumes trapped in the car from her filling up with petrol has got to be more of a risk than most other explosion related tales of filling courts. SuperchargedVR6 said:
It's just scaremongering to control the cattle, like seatbelts and safety briefings on planes.
When you've experienced turbulence like I have (over Russia, since you asked), you'll fully understand the value of seatbelts on planes.Bad turbulence + no seatbelt = smacking your head on the overhead lockers.
PS: Before anyone says it, I was wearing my seatbelt at the time, and didn't whack my head on the lockers.
As said earlier, it's a concentration thing rather than an explosion risk. Much like the no eating and drinking signs and not for use by under 16's etc.
Yes probably either bad training or no training and/or poor understanding of the reasons.
Using your phone to make the payment isn't done whilst in the process of actually using the pump.
Yes probably either bad training or no training and/or poor understanding of the reasons.
Using your phone to make the payment isn't done whilst in the process of actually using the pump.
M-SportMatt said:
Yipper said:
The petrol station phone ban is in place because ~5% of people drop their phone from height onto the ground every year. When a phone hits the concrete floor of a forecourt, the rapid separation of battery from connectors can cause a spark. If there are vapours around from spilt petrol, it can cause a fire or explosion. Extremely low risk, of course, but not zero risk.
No recorded incident anywhere in the world ever of a mobile phone causing a fire/explosion......Yet its perfectly safe to drive round in a 30 year old car with old with an old wiring loom open to the elements, bare battery terminals etc...
The ban is precautionary, of course. But a potential "battery spark from a dropped phone" really is the reason phones are not supposed to be used at petrol stations.
M-SportMatt said:
Alucidnation said:
Was this on the way home from the extended test drive?
Weird post, i'd be flattered by the attention if you were;a) a fit female
b) remotely likeable
c) not an internet moron
Unfortunately you don't meet any of the criteria.
Thanks for your input
Anyway, even if I was any or all of the above, you'd be quite safe.
Yipper said:
M-SportMatt said:
Yipper said:
The petrol station phone ban is in place because ~5% of people drop their phone from height onto the ground every year. When a phone hits the concrete floor of a forecourt, the rapid separation of battery from connectors can cause a spark. If there are vapours around from spilt petrol, it can cause a fire or explosion. Extremely low risk, of course, but not zero risk.
No recorded incident anywhere in the world ever of a mobile phone causing a fire/explosion......Yet its perfectly safe to drive round in a 30 year old car with old with an old wiring loom open to the elements, bare battery terminals etc...
The ban is precautionary, of course. But a potential "battery spark from a dropped phone" really is the reason phones are not supposed to be used at petrol stations.
As others have said, the risk of a spark from a phone on a forcourt is no more likely than 100 other things that could cause a spark. I can believe the concentration thing though.
Alucidnation said:
I guess that's a no, then?
Anyway, even if I was any or all of the above, you'd be quite safe.
If you say so, but still weird stalker posting IMOAnyway, even if I was any or all of the above, you'd be quite safe.
FYI I cant post on the test drive thread lol but i had a 30 min test last thursday (after having to go through the finance side of it first) and couldn't come to a decision unsurprisingly, I have made the dealer aware of why.
PieSlayer said:
Conscript said:
Probably more risk of a spark being caused by him using the Tannoy loudspeaker.
You mean public address system. Tannoy is a brand name...
I was actually thinking of that Partridge quote as I typed that. Figured another fan might pick up on it.
Needless to say, I had the last laugh.
Conscript said:
PieSlayer said:
Conscript said:
Probably more risk of a spark being caused by him using the Tannoy loudspeaker.
You mean public address system. Tannoy is a brand name...I was actually thinking of that Partridge quote as I typed that. Figured another fan might pick up on it.
Needless to say, I had the last laugh.
Flibble said:
Ares said:
Drop a lit one into a pool of it and there's a reasonable chance!
There's zero chance. Cigarettes can't light petrol (not hot enough), unless you're in the movies. A lighter on the other hand...Yes i've been wanting to say this to all of the comments about sparks in a pool of fuel
romeogolf said:
Even though we all know the mobile phones aren't going to cause an explosion, it's part of the safety training at fuel garages.
I used to work in one - If we had an audit (unannounced, random checks) and we allowed them to fill while breaking one of the safety rules, we would fail.
100% get that, find it odd that they are trained to educate the customer that there may be an explosion though lolI used to work in one - If we had an audit (unannounced, random checks) and we allowed them to fill while breaking one of the safety rules, we would fail.
M-SportMatt said:
romeogolf said:
Even though we all know the mobile phones aren't going to cause an explosion, it's part of the safety training at fuel garages.
I used to work in one - If we had an audit (unannounced, random checks) and we allowed them to fill while breaking one of the safety rules, we would fail.
100% get that, find it odd that they are trained to educate the customer that there may be an explosion though lolI used to work in one - If we had an audit (unannounced, random checks) and we allowed them to fill while breaking one of the safety rules, we would fail.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GQwnj5nYNo
Looks fairly easy to extinguish a fire, with no skill/training at all....
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