No ICE from 2040?!?
Discussion
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jul/25/b...
Ok so its the guardian, and it all seems a bit short on detail, but the sign of the beginning of the end?
Ok so its the guardian, and it all seems a bit short on detail, but the sign of the beginning of the end?
It's a marker, an aspiration; nothing more behind it I'm sure. And that said, that only-aspirational deadline could move a decade or more either way depending on technology and take-up. And why shouldn't such a transition take place..? Put a timetable to it, and we can have a sensible discussion about the societal effects and the changes required/to be embraced. Essential, IMO: expectation & need for personal travel, expectations of travel/personal freedoms/rights/obligations overdue a thorough examination and reflection. So many ways in which a car is currently considered an 'essential' that simply doesn't have to be, for so many. And much of the answer there of course is actually 'infrastructure investment...' Let's have that intrinsic discussion as-part-of, in the open, in public. a nominal deadline like this gives us decades to refine our expectations and priorities as a society.
[and I say that as one who loves the freedom of a day out to drive.]
Oh, and even taken at face value, that deadline is c.25yrears away: effectively: most of those railing here against today wont be fit to operate a remote control by then I'm sure
PS have added reminder to calendar to place order for the V16 supercharged Aston in time for retirement. And ragging it around giving the Vs to Lentilists stuck on their solarcycles.
[and I say that as one who loves the freedom of a day out to drive.]
Oh, and even taken at face value, that deadline is c.25yrears away: effectively: most of those railing here against today wont be fit to operate a remote control by then I'm sure
PS have added reminder to calendar to place order for the V16 supercharged Aston in time for retirement. And ragging it around giving the Vs to Lentilists stuck on their solarcycles.
Edited by Huff on Tuesday 25th July 23:23
The article mentioning 40'000 deaths a year from air pollution (cars, diesels etc) was proven to be utter bullst, I wish I could remember where I saw a prominent university professor of aniliticle data showing how these figures are manipulated to push certain groups agendas, these groups have the ear of influential politicians who are in a position to make laws.
It's a fking disgrace these people are allowed to make policy that will cost the motorist billions of pounds and are not answerable for the consequences it causes.
It's a fking disgrace these people are allowed to make policy that will cost the motorist billions of pounds and are not answerable for the consequences it causes.
Klippie said:
The article mentioning 40'000 deaths a year from air pollution (cars, diesels etc) was proven to be utter bullst,
its not really bullst, the initial report had a complex methodology that people have extrapolated the figures to a wider audience to come up with a figure. But air pollution is a complex matter to actual study the effects of death.it is also complicated as tit takes into account life reductions in projected ages etc which can become bogged down in details.
The things that can be shown by air pollution are increases in the stunting of children’s lung growth,dementia in the elderly,heart disease, asthma and eye irritation, there are plenty of evidence to consider.
it would be moronic to argue is has no effect in deaths, a true figure would be hard to quantify, but realistically more than 20k people prematurely die a year based on all available studies. People actually affected in some way by air pollution would run into the 100k or even millions.
Edited by The Spruce goose on Wednesday 26th July 01:52
I suspect that technology and 'The Market' will have made mainstream manufacturers stop selling ICE cars by then anyway.
If the Government wanted everyone to stop driving ICE cars all they have to do is mandate the installation of free electricity charging points in every space in all supermarket and out-of-town retail centre carparks, no need to ban anything.
If the Government wanted everyone to stop driving ICE cars all they have to do is mandate the installation of free electricity charging points in every space in all supermarket and out-of-town retail centre carparks, no need to ban anything.
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