VW Golf R Does Quarter-Mile in 9.5 Secs

[C70R]

LocoCoco said:

C70R said:

nickfrog said:

C70R said:

And yet you choose you spend your time/energy coming onto a thread about a 4-pot hatch driving in a straight line just to announce this to the world?

And yet you choose to spend your time/energy calling people retards because they are impressed by different things than what impresses you ?

C70R said:

There are some truly odd people on PH.

Indeed

I came to a thread about something that interests me.
You came to a thread that doesn't interest you, just to tell everyone that it doesn't interest you.

Which of us is the odd one?

It's not hard to spot the irony when you complain about a person that's complaining.

I've written out a bunch of posts like yours C70R but can never bring myself to hit the submit button because I know it'd just make me a hypocrite.

I don't really think it's hypocritical to call out the kind of kn*b who comes to a thread that doesn't interest him, just to tell everyone that it doesn't interest him. It's a bizarre version of attention-whoring.

[hondansx]

C70R said:

I came to a thread about something that interests me.
You came to a thread that doesn't interest you, just to tell everyone that it doesn't interest you.

Which of us is the odd one?

Actually, I came to the thread because I was interested. It's just that when I read the article, I didn't find anything to be impressed with.

I explained my rationale, but you just quoted me out of context so you could try to look clever. I've even owned a Golf R!

I would be genuinely interested to know:

a) What is different about the standard Golf R's engine which makes it so apparently capable?
b) Does it benefit from general improvement in engine tech, or does the Golf R engine have unique, world-first innovations?
b) How over-engineered is the rest of the drivetrain from the factory to deal with such big power, if at all?

Otherwise, what is to be impressed by? You can bolt a turbo to any car and make big power. The question is how long it lasts. There are only a select few engines in history that are genuinely landmark. I'm interested to know if the Golf's is one of them.

[ZX10R NIN]

The whole drivetrain would have to be uprated to take that sort of power the standard Haldex system would turn to mush taking that kind of BHP.

[PaulJC84]

I think the CSS/R/S3 engine has quite a few internal engine changes to the normal 2.0T found in the GTI, plus a bigger turbo.

I think its quite impressive that these can be tuned with only a few changes from 300bhp to 500bhp but I was born in the 80s and I was impressed when the 1.8Ts could be tuned from 150bhp to 350bhp with a few bolt on mods too.

I am always sceptical on the reliability but people take their chances.

[C70R]

hondansx said:

C70R said:

I came to a thread about something that interests me.
You came to a thread that doesn't interest you, just to tell everyone that it doesn't interest you.

Which of us is the odd one?

Actually, I came to the thread because I was interested. It's just that when I read the article, I didn't find anything to be impressed with.

title said:

VW Golf R Does Quarter-Mile in 9.5 Secs

I'm interested as to what you expected?

[nickfrog]

C70R said:

I don't really think it's hypocritical to call out the kind of kn*b who comes to a thread that doesn't interest him, just to tell everyone that it doesn't interest him. It's a bizarre version of attention-whoring.

I think you have made the assumption that I wasn't interested. I said I wasn't impressed. If I wasn't interested I wouldn't have come to the thread. As I said, the engineering challenge must be quite fascinating.

I think your name calling is quite consistent at least. I am not sure you should take part in a thread at all if you can't refrain from calling people "retard" or "knob" simply because you're not equipped to deal with good old plurality of opinions on an open forum.

[anonymous-user]

Wouldn't it be better to start off with an RS3 engine like in the Yeti? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-XnIeLriow

[loose cannon]

It's impressive but ultimately you wouldn't want it for your daily driver as it will st itself,
Somebody I no of had a ttrs and that was running similar horses, it snapped its crankshaft
After abuse at the drag strip, personally if I was into drag racing I'd just buy/ build a funny car

[Yipper]

hondansx said:

C70R said:

I came to a thread about something that interests me.
You came to a thread that doesn't interest you, just to tell everyone that it doesn't interest you.

Which of us is the odd one?

Actually, I came to the thread because I was interested. It's just that when I read the article, I didn't find anything to be impressed with.

I explained my rationale, but you just quoted me out of context so you could try to look clever. I've even owned a Golf R!

I would be genuinely interested to know:

a) What is different about the standard Golf R's engine which makes it so apparently capable?
b) Does it benefit from general improvement in engine tech, or does the Golf R engine have unique, world-first innovations?
b) How over-engineered is the rest of the drivetrain from the factory to deal with such big power, if at all?

Otherwise, what is to be impressed by? You can bolt a turbo to any car and make big power. The question is how long it lasts. There are only a select few engines in history that are genuinely landmark. I'm interested to know if the Golf's is one of them.

• Rally turbo cars in 1980s = high cost + high maintenance...
• Jap turbo cars in 1990s = medium cost + medium maintenance...
• Golf R in 2010s = medium cost + low maintenance...

The Golf R has moved the game on quite a bit. You can give it ~400bhp for pennies and the servicing cost is about the same as your granny's Polo.

[Mandalore]

The recent developments in Long Life oil used by performance VW's and other manufacturers have reduced the amount of oil changes required (by increasing the service intervals from 10K to 20K), so that '50%' reduction in maintenance cost cannot be attributed to the Golfs designers.

[RizzoTheRat]

Yipper said:

• Rally turbo cars in 1980s = high cost + high maintenance...
• Jap turbo cars in 1990s = medium cost + medium maintenance...
• Golf R in 2010s = medium cost + low maintenance...

The Golf R has moved the game on quite a bit. You can give it ~400bhp for pennies and the servicing cost is about the same as your granny's Polo.

Civic Type R, Focus RS and presumably a few others are making similar or more power in standard tune as a Golf R, are the Golfs that much more tuneable or just have more a "scene" of people in to tuning them? I'm guessing AWD helps the popularity too.

[ZX10R NIN]

Ford fans have been getting 400bhp from various 2.0T engines since the eighties.

[Zoon]

Great, how reliable is it likely to be as a daily driver?
Not very.

[mwstewart]

Amazing for the outlay.

[C70R]

mwstewart said:

Amazing for the outlay.

Agreed. Is it possible to quicker for £50k in a (relatively new/civilised) road-legal car?
I can't understand the mentality of someone who would try and pick holes in such an epic achievement.

[kayzee]

And this is why I love modified cars

[Christmassss]

Ultrafunkula said:

I remember an S13 200SX running 680bhp back in 2005, not bad from a 1.8. Not particularly reliable though IIRC.

That was Simon Norris's one wasn't it? The white one?

[Christmassss]

There are alot of people banging on about how unreliable it'll be as a daily. Chances are, its not a daily and it is just being used to demonstrate what is possible on that particular car/engine. Like a lot of car tuning companies do.

Although having ran a 450bhp RX7 as a daily for over a year with no problems and my friend who is technical manager at litchfield imports ran a 330d (booo diesel snore devils fuel etc etc) with 400bhp and 700lb of torque as a daily, again with no problems. I don't think a well set up modified car is any less reliable than any other car.

I say well set up because, some peoples idea of tuning is turning up the boost and hoping it lasts...

[Ultrafunkula]

Christmassss said:

That was Simon Norris's one wasn't it? The white one?

Yep, I had the opportunity to look under the bonnet at a jap car meet.. it didn't look like much for what was allegedly the second fastest road car in the country at the time! Impressive car though

[Christmassss]

Ultrafunkula said:

Yep, I had the opportunity to look under the bonnet at a jap car meet.. it didn't look like much for what was allegedly the second fastest road car in the country at the time! Impressive car though

Was impressive out of the chocolate CA18 engine!

My favourite of all his cars was his Evo7 though...that was insane! but similarly, if you looked at the engine it looked pretty standard!