Do PHers still practice bangernomics?

[Dirknights]

I tried a leased car because I thought the idea of fixed costs and a new car would be better economics but after 1 year it really isn't- knowing that money is going each month for a soulless new car (Octavia Vrs estate) and I have nothing to show at the end of the agreement doesn't sit right. Luckily the wife is on maternity leave so i've ditched the Skoda with her and bought an Alfa GT JTD which has a folder full of History -2 former Alfa club owners and new clutch, belts, egr and swirl flap delete and a remap! Dead happy!!

The consensus on this thread is it leaves funds for the cars in the garage to enjoy and for a chance to drive something interesting (nb not a snotter) that ou wouldn't have bought brand new.

[v15ben]

Got to agree with the above.
My daily shed is seeing plenty of use at the moment and we're off to Scotland in it for New Year's Eve.
Plenty of chance to add to the winter grime patina.

Wash Me! by Hobs Hobson, on Flickr

[sjabrown]

Thoroughly enjoying my banger/scrapper motoring. 2002 Corsavan 1.7 DI. It's slow, so I can ring its neck and not risk my licence. It's only required an alternator, wheelbearing, MOT and 4 tyres in 25,000 miles. I can park it anywhere without a care. It's surprisingly comfortable on long journeys too!

[TheInsanity1234]

Hoofy said:

Nobody's judging you here. Just trying to understand the costs. It certainly sounds cheaper for your particular circumstances although I still don't buy the logic. If you're dead, they don't have to pay out anything, if you survive an accident they might be paying rehabilitation costs for years to come. They should have made the Corsa more enticing.

Well no, thing is, the Corsa had quite a good safety rating for its time, but it's likely I would have ended up in a severely disabled state for years to come, whereas my car has many many air bags and crumple zones, so safety-wise, I'm more likely to walk away from an accident unscathed in my car, than I am to walk away unscathed in a 10 year old Corsa.

The other thing that probably makes it cheaper is the fact someone normally would take more care of a £11k brand new car than they would take care of a £500 shed. As in, if I bin my car, I'll have an enormous pile of finance to clear off with no car to show for it, whereas with a £500 shed that incentive to not bin it isn't there. But frankly either of them, I have a nice incentive to not bin it, which is, the fact one would have to pay £1.68 million in insurance per year for the rest of my life.

I always planned on keeping the car for about 2.5 years and then VTing it and buying something nicer finance free (by saving up as I went through the first two years) for my last two years at university.

[Hoofy]

TheInsanity1234 said:

Hoofy said:

Nobody's judging you here. Just trying to understand the costs. It certainly sounds cheaper for your particular circumstances although I still don't buy the logic. If you're dead, they don't have to pay out anything, if you survive an accident they might be paying rehabilitation costs for years to come. They should have made the Corsa more enticing.

Well no, thing is, the Corsa had quite a good safety rating for its time, but it's likely I would have ended up in a severely disabled state for years to come, whereas my car has many many air bags and crumple zones, so safety-wise, I'm more likely to walk away from an accident unscathed in my car, than I am to walk away unscathed in a 10 year old Corsa.

The other thing that probably makes it cheaper is the fact someone normally would take more care of a £11k brand new car than they would take care of a £500 shed. As in, if I bin my car, I'll have an enormous pile of finance to clear off with no car to show for it, whereas with a £500 shed that incentive to not bin it isn't there. But frankly either of them, I have a nice incentive to not bin it, which is, the fact one would have to pay £1.68 million in insurance per year for the rest of my life.

I always planned on keeping the car for about 2.5 years and then VTing it and buying something nicer finance free (by saving up as I went through the first two years) for my last two years at university.

It makes sense. Just wonder why they don't care that anyone over 30 would end up disabled for life. I guess there's less to pay out.

[Buff Mchugelarge]

I'm poor. Does that count?

[Henners]

I love a bit of bangernomics from time to time.

We only 'need' one car in the house, so I am musing with getting an old banger for the 5 times a year when two cars would be useful.

I love just not caring about a car, someone parked like a dick? That's great, so park real close to their shiny new dickmobile People tend not to cut you up too, when you're driving a car that shouts 'I collect dents'

[TheInsanity1234]

Hoofy said:

TheInsanity1234 said:

Hoofy said:

Nobody's judging you here. Just trying to understand the costs. It certainly sounds cheaper for your particular circumstances although I still don't buy the logic. If you're dead, they don't have to pay out anything, if you survive an accident they might be paying rehabilitation costs for years to come. They should have made the Corsa more enticing.

Well no, thing is, the Corsa had quite a good safety rating for its time, but it's likely I would have ended up in a severely disabled state for years to come, whereas my car has many many air bags and crumple zones, so safety-wise, I'm more likely to walk away from an accident unscathed in my car, than I am to walk away unscathed in a 10 year old Corsa.

The other thing that probably makes it cheaper is the fact someone normally would take more care of a £11k brand new car than they would take care of a £500 shed. As in, if I bin my car, I'll have an enormous pile of finance to clear off with no car to show for it, whereas with a £500 shed that incentive to not bin it isn't there. But frankly either of them, I have a nice incentive to not bin it, which is, the fact one would have to pay £1.68 million in insurance per year for the rest of my life.

I always planned on keeping the car for about 2.5 years and then VTing it and buying something nicer finance free (by saving up as I went through the first two years) for my last two years at university.

It makes sense. Just wonder why they don't care that anyone over 30 would end up disabled for life. I guess there's less to pay out.

Probably more likely that someone over 30 would also have health insurance which would pay out for the perma-disability thing. Also someone over 30 is more likely to not drive their car straight into a large stationary solid object, or someone else's vehicle.

[rossub]

Loving my ‘56 Yaris 1.3 this winter. It’s taking all the damp, mud and salt while the two Imprezas are SORNed under cover and not putting on pointless mileage in the permanent dark.

[SystemParanoia]

Buff Mchugelarge said:

I'm poor. Does that count?

Im with this guy lol.

my £500 snotter is my lifeline... which is why i spend lot of time keeping them running!
as long as i get at least 12mths.. i feel im quids in as i do all my own spannering, and bits from the scrappy are cheap as chips ( although quality is wildly variable! )

[Parisien]

SystemParanoia said:

Im with this guy lol.

my £500 snotter is my lifeline... which is why i spend lot of time keeping them running!
as long as i get at least 12mths.. i feel im quids in as i do all my own spannering, and bits from the scrappy are cheap as chips ( although quality is wildly variable! )

I thought the definition of snottering was buying a car thats got 4/6/8mths MOT, ignore its every need and then dump it at first sign of trouble!

Bangernomics, buy cheap car large or small depending on need, requires some care and ongoing care to ensure it doesn't let you down and gives reasonable service at minimal cost over period of ownership?!

P

[SystemParanoia]

Parisien said:

SystemParanoia said:

Im with this guy lol.

my £500 snotter is my lifeline... which is why i spend lot of time keeping them running!
as long as i get at least 12mths.. i feel im quids in as i do all my own spannering, and bits from the scrappy are cheap as chips ( although quality is wildly variable! )

I thought the definition of snottering was buying a car thats got 4/6/8mths MOT, ignore its every need and then dump it at first sign of trouble!

Bangernomics, buy cheap car large or small depending on need, requires some care and ongoing care to ensure it doesn't let you down and gives reasonable service at minimal cost over period of ownership?!

P

yeah.. that one.

[200Plus Club]

My 2003 1.6 vvti auto corrolla stands me at £91 so far for discs n pads in 2 yrs and nearly 20k. I paid £400or £500 for it (can't recall exactly). It's prob still worth same. I do have to put oil in it as it burns a bit but it flies through mots and has very little rust.
Next year I might stick it on gum tree for 500 quid and see what it fetches, I might keep it further. Virtually every panel had a minor scuff or ding from the wife's shopping runs where people open doors onto it or ding it but so what. I can leave it anywhere and not worry.

[shedweller]

5yrs ago I bought a
Citroen ZX Turbo diesel with 12mts MOT for £425...... It had one fat elderly owner from new whom had washed it with a brillo (yes really) and collapsed the drivers seat.... It looks truly awful as its on a zero maintenance schedule that includes no washing

It keeps going through MOTs having only ever had bulbs n pads...discs are perilously thin... It doesn't leak, heater works, leccy windas work..... I've turned the boost and fuel up... Bit Smokey and goes like stink.... Sat outside my house wearing winter knobblies covered in mud.....

Genuinely one if the best cars I have Ever owned.... But it is a bangernomics car so if it breaks and I can't fix it in 30m then I'm chucking it

[A135i]

I don’t do bangernomics but what I like doing is buying a car for a good price, running around in it for a year or two and then getting all my money back come sale time. I’m currently doing it with my fiesta which was bought for an excellent price (basically trade). It was always a car I wanted when growing up so took the plunge earlier this year and bought one. I’ve done a few wee things to it but I know I’ll get the money back. I’ll probably move it on towards the end of next year or perhaps in 2019.

[andburg]

shedweller said:

5yrs ago I bought a
Citroen ZX Turbo diesel with 12mts MOT for £425...... It had one fat elderly owner from new whom had washed it with a brillo (yes really) and collapsed the drivers seat.... It looks truly awful as its on a zero maintenance schedule that includes no washing

It keeps going through MOTs having only ever had bulbs n pads...discs are perilously thin... It doesn't leak, heater works, leccy windas work..... I've turned the boost and fuel up... Bit Smokey and goes like stink.... Sat outside my house wearing winter knobblies covered in mud.....

Genuinely one if the best cars I have Ever owned.... But it is a bangernomics car so if it breaks and I can't fix it in 30m then I'm chucking it

Please do a thread on this!

[Beanbob]

shedweller said:

5yrs ago I bought a
Citroen ZX Turbo diesel with 12mts MOT for £425...... It had one fat elderly owner from new whom had washed it with a brillo (yes really) and collapsed the drivers seat.... It looks truly awful as its on a zero maintenance schedule that includes no washing

It keeps going through MOTs having only ever had bulbs n pads...discs are perilously thin... It doesn't leak, heater works, leccy windas work..... I've turned the boost and fuel up... Bit Smokey and goes like stink.... Sat outside my house wearing winter knobblies covered in mud.....

Genuinely one if the best cars I have Ever owned.... But it is a bangernomics car so if it breaks and I can't fix it in 30m then I'm chucking it

I love the ZX. I used to have a 306 Dturbo as a runabout and it was genuinely one of the best cars I've run!

[Youreterriblemuriel]

I've a Golf I got for £700 including 12 months MOT and a hell of a lot of receipts. The exhaust is horribly loud but I've just had to replace an 02 sensor so far. May stick it back up on gumtree and see what else is out there in a few months.

[bearman68]

veccy208 said:

I'd love to do bangernomics but simple fact is I've a small family and live in the country. I love tinkering at cars, love older quirky cars but I need as reliable a car as possible that is as efficient as possible because we don't have much spare cash. I find the enjoyment of fixing something at 11 o'clock on a Tuesday night when I have to be in work for 7.30 the next morning greatly reduces the enjoyment.
It's a great pastime for maybe someone who is single or retired, but unfortunately today's lifestyle (premium of time, spare cash etc not fashion, I couldn't care less about that) makes it very hard to enjoy things like that.

I have a small family, live in the country,and need a reliable car. I have a Saab 9-3 for £1300 4 years ago, I bought it with 68k miles on it, and it has been superb. New wheel bearing, and a bit of maintenance,and no problems at all. And I get 35 mpg out of it,which is superb for the performance it gives.
And I have a Volvo V50 2.4 D5, alsoa very nice car, which is off to France skiing in the New year. Quite confident about getting to the skiing resorts and back without assistance. I replaced the suspension when I bought it, so that owes me about £2500.
I also run a 12 year old Megane - no particular issues after a rocky start (£90 to buy), and an MR2 for a bit of fun, (£600). So we're hardly talking rich here, but none have failed to start,or dumped me by the roadside. (Unlike my ex 5 year old BMW)

[oldbanger]

Yup I still practice bangernomics.

There’s less to do on a 10-15 year old car these days. Things are less likely to go wrong. But when things do go wrong they are definitely garage fixed rather than something I could deal with myself.