RE: Fortunes of Lotus on the up!

RE: Fortunes of Lotus on the up!

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CABC

5,575 posts

101 months

Tuesday 15th August 2017
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Yipper said:
They need better interiors and lower production costs.
it's a driver's car, i'm happy with the interior. in fact i wish i'd deleted the head unit and speakers to save more weight.
i fear the next Elise will become flabby to appeal to a wider audience, a shame.

unpc

2,835 posts

213 months

Tuesday 15th August 2017
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Has anyone actually said they are definitely doing an SUV? I don't recall reading that and I think a me too car would be a mistake.

Tesla has the straight line performance EV market to itself right now. That Renault Zoe racery thing proved EVs can be fun to drive. There's a gap in the market for a EV that handles like a Lotus and doesn't cost the earth. IMO they need to get on this right now before someone else does and they need to make it Federal compliant from the get go. They have the skills to do it.

Yipper

5,964 posts

90 months

Tuesday 15th August 2017
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CABC said:
Yipper said:
They need better interiors and lower production costs.
it's a driver's car, i'm happy with the interior. in fact i wish i'd deleted the head unit and speakers to save more weight.
i fear the next Elise will become flabby to appeal to a wider audience, a shame.
That driver's car nonsense has been spouted for decades and led to endless losses. Lotus need to grow up and build interiors for adults. They need to move away from the gokart segment and start attacking Porsche and Audi.

CABC

5,575 posts

101 months

Tuesday 15th August 2017
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Yipper said:
That driver's car nonsense has been spouted for decades and led to endless losses. Lotus need to grow up and build interiors for adults. They need to move away from the gokart segment and start attacking Porsche and Audi.
sure they need to do something to make it a commercial success. Selfishly i just hope they manage a way that doesn't blindly chase the Germans. Audi have deviated into appliances, zero interest there. Porsche have grown large and soft, with the exception of halo cars i can't buy. The Evora and suv can address those markets, i hope and pray the Elise stays light and focused. I'll buy another.

Tickle

4,917 posts

204 months

Tuesday 15th August 2017
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Yipper said:
They need to move away from the gokart segment and start attacking Porsche and Audi.
I couldn't think of anything worse for the Lotus brand. As long as they make profit on driver focused cars it's a good thing.


Edited by Tickle on Tuesday 15th August 17:49

andy_s

19,400 posts

259 months

Tuesday 15th August 2017
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Yipper said:
That driver's car nonsense has been spouted for decades and led to endless losses. Lotus need to grow up and build interiors for adults. They need to move away from the gokart segment and start attacking Porsche and Audi.
Evora 400; not gokart, real Porsche alternative.
Interiors are fine.

Are you posting from 7 years ago...?

kambites

67,556 posts

221 months

Tuesday 15th August 2017
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Tickle said:
I wonder if there has been experiments in a front engined bonded/extruded Ally chassis from Lotus?
Would that not be the entire Aston Martin range?

Tickle

4,917 posts

204 months

Tuesday 15th August 2017
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kambites said:
Tickle said:
I wonder if there has been experiments in a front engined bonded/extruded Ally chassis from Lotus?
Would that not be the entire Aston Martin range?
Yes; however, I was thinking more of a modern Elan that uses the alu/bond tech rather than a steel spaceframe.

deltashad

6,731 posts

197 months

Tuesday 15th August 2017
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If Lotus produced a lightweight SUV I would buy it.
It would be the family hack and probably a keeper.

hughcam

419 posts

165 months

Tuesday 15th August 2017
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saaby93 said:
SidewaysSi said:
hughcam said:
saaby93 said:
Wasnt the turning point when someone (there's a thread somewhere) decided to drop the Evora V6 into the back of an Exige

Lotus decided to make the Exige a model in its own right with the V6 and a roadster variant
The Elise becomes a 1.6 4 roadster with a hardtop variant
and the Evora, they bring in a widebody variant and
wheres the Evora roadster?
How to create a range of models without doing very much yes
Have you ever owned a Lotus?
Probably not. But he does have a bicycle.
Thought it was usually the person that has to ask that type of question that doesn't wink
Thought not.. maybe you should actually try one with out quoting someone elses opinions found on the internet? (I have owned 4 including my current Exige btw)

Tuna

19,930 posts

284 months

Tuesday 15th August 2017
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Yipper said:
They need better interiors and lower production costs.
Have you sat in a recent model Evora?

The only way you'll see lower production costs is if they magically start selling 40,000 cars a year. So long as you get a semi bespoke and properly tuned chassis, it costs what it costs.

iSore

4,011 posts

144 months

Tuesday 15th August 2017
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Justin S said:
Nobody saw Porsche with an SUV many years ago and look where they are with that now.
Yes, just look at them............

Tuna

19,930 posts

284 months

Tuesday 15th August 2017
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unpc said:
Has anyone actually said they are definitely doing an SUV? I don't recall reading that and I think a me too car would be a mistake.
Yes, announced last year (early this year?) as a joint venture with a Chinese manufacturer. They're to be made in Asia and (I think) sold there first, where the brand would suit the market well. If it's a success, it may be made available in Europe/America later from what I recall.

The aim was not to produce a 'me too' car, but something that was very much a Lotus driving experience, using their production and design technologies.

iSore

4,011 posts

144 months

Tuesday 15th August 2017
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deltashad said:
If Lotus produced a lightweight SUV I would buy it.
It would be the family hack and probably a keeper.
If Rolex made a £90 quartz watch, you'd probably buy one of those, too,

iSore

4,011 posts

144 months

Tuesday 15th August 2017
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Tuna said:
very much a Lotus driving experience
Which model? RWD Elan, S1 Esprit? Elise.............?

BMW wh0red themselves in the name of profits to make a Zafira and be laughed at. A pity that even Lotus needs to be prostituted to make yet another f*cking SUV.

HustleRussell

24,691 posts

160 months

Tuesday 15th August 2017
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Jesus, keep it in perspective- you'll probably never see one.

CABC

5,575 posts

101 months

Tuesday 15th August 2017
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lots and lots of high margin SUVs please.
just as long as they keep the halo cars.

swisstoni

16,985 posts

279 months

Tuesday 15th August 2017
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I've always had a soft spot for Lotus but have never actually owned one.
They have lacked a naughty range topper since they failed to replace the Esprit.
The Evora has always looked a bit tame to me although I'm sure they are great to drive.

Anyway, I want Lotus to survive and thrive because they are an important marque. SUVs, submarines, whatever - bring it on.

deltashad

6,731 posts

197 months

Sunday 20th August 2017
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iSore said:
deltashad said:
If Lotus produced a lightweight SUV I would buy it.
It would be the family hack and probably a keeper.
If Rolex made a £90 quartz watch, you'd probably buy one of those, too,
I dont wear watches. I dont have a big telly.
I do have a need for a small, light 4wd with decent ground clearance, i generally only buy interesting cars.

98elise

26,568 posts

161 months

Sunday 20th August 2017
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Yipper said:
CABC said:
Yipper said:
They need better interiors and lower production costs.
it's a driver's car, i'm happy with the interior. in fact i wish i'd deleted the head unit and speakers to save more weight.
i fear the next Elise will become flabby to appeal to a wider audience, a shame.
That driver's car nonsense has been spouted for decades and led to endless losses. Lotus need to grow up and build interiors for adults. They need to move away from the gokart segment and start attacking Porsche and Audi.
That would be the Evora?