RE: Ford Focus RS Option Pack: Review
Discussion
Ahbefive said:
Indeed, very odd.
The quintessential RS owner. Someone who actually thinks that people are looking at their Ford Focus going 'wowwwww I wish I could afford that'. It's not a supercar, it's not a high end BMW or Merc, it's a sub-£30k Focus for crying out loud. We'll see which car history looks on more favourably in the long run, the MK7 Fiesta ST or the MK3 RS. One was Top Gear's car of the year the year it came out, described by Clarkson as 'a future classic' and remains the darling of its class 4 years after release - the other has a luminous blue paint job, a drift mode and is already the subject of gale force laughter from Type R and soon to be Megane RS owners. But yeah, if it's more expensive it must be better right? Abahahahaha. I love what an expert you are on everyone else's finances as well and how you automatically know that people who drive a less expensive car do so due to not being able to afford anything more expensive (because we all know more expensive cars are automatically better and everyone spends every spare penny they have on cars).
HumanDoing said:
The quintessential RS owner. Someone who actually thinks that people are looking at their Ford Focus going 'wowwwww I wish I could afford that'. It's not a supercar, it's not a high end BMW or Merc, it's a sub-£30k Focus for crying out loud. We'll see which car history looks on more favourably in the long run, the MK7 Fiesta ST or the MK3 RS. One was Top Gear's car of the year the year it came out, described by Clarkson as 'a future classic' and remains the darling of its class 4 years after release - the other has a luminous blue paint job, a drift mode and is already the subject of gale force laughter from Type R and soon to be Megane RS owners. But yeah, if it's more expensive it must be better right? Abahahahaha.
I love what an expert you are on everyone else's finances as well and how you automatically know that people who drive a less expensive car do so due to not being able to afford anything more expensive (because we all know more expensive cars are automatically better and everyone spends every spare penny they have on cars).
Serious case of inferiority complex going on here, someone should help you by hiding your keyboard lolI love what an expert you are on everyone else's finances as well and how you automatically know that people who drive a less expensive car do so due to not being able to afford anything more expensive (because we all know more expensive cars are automatically better and everyone spends every spare penny they have on cars).
IanJ9375 said:
Serious case of inferiority complex going on here, someone should help you by hiding your keyboard lol
Yes you're right, I'M the nob head here rather than the 'grown man' who keeps editing my posts and sneering at how I apparently can't afford an RS - because clearly the only reason someone would object to a car replete with reliability issues and depreciating like a stone is due to jealousy bahahahaha. 
This is genius. You have gone from saying its terrible, to its great and I want one and might one day buy one to, it's worth £17k, to its the worst thing ever and ok worth £30k, to I'm buying a megane despite being obsesses with depreciation, to oh yea they are all broken.All with literally no experience of any of them. Comedy gold.
HumanDoing said:
Yes you're right, I'M the nob head here rather than the 'grown man' who keeps editing my posts and sneering at how I apparently can't afford an RS - because clearly the only reason someone would object to a car replete with reliability issues and depreciating like a stone is due to jealousy bahahahaha.
The only thing you've "grown" is a nob on your head from what I can tell...Ahbefive said:
This is genius. You have gone from saying its terrible, to its great and I want one and might one day buy one to, it's worth £17k, to its the worst thing ever and ok worth £30k, to I'm buying a megane despite being obsesses with depreciation, to oh yea they are all broken.All with literally no experience of any of them. Comedy gold.
My opinion has never changed - I'm not averse to picking up an RS when they hit around 17-20k. What's wrong with that? Have you ever stopped to think that having to put words in my mouth to 'win the argument' means you don't actually have much of an argument? I've never said 'they are all broken' either.
You come across like a 6 year old with a bad case of hemorrhoids whose necked too many smarties.
An early one with basic spec was £29k. WBAC would now be offering £23k. Thats pretty damned good after almost 18months.
Try telling that to a simpleton though and it would blow their mind. Apparently its loads even though it would have worked out cheaper than many lease deals on inferior cars.
I think its just that some people don't understand that almost all new cars depreciate, for a few years anyway.
Try telling that to a simpleton though and it would blow their mind. Apparently its loads even though it would have worked out cheaper than many lease deals on inferior cars.
I think its just that some people don't understand that almost all new cars depreciate, for a few years anyway.
So, the absolute worst case valuation (WBAC) for the earliest RS in good order is 20% depreciation in 18 months?
UK average is ~30% at year 1.
Ford GMFV for the RS is currently set at 34% depreciation at year 2 and 48% at year 3 (based on 9k mpa).
All looks fairly healthy, doesn't it?
Of course, the real short term winners were those who got in an RS on day one and sold up after 12 months. They pretty much got a years free steer.
Still, considering the relatively high production volumes (compared to the mk2), it doesn't look like anyone will be taking a bath on their RS in the near-term (unless they're running M380 and it blows up, but that's another story...).
Looks like our coprophilic friend will have to wait a while to get one for £17k
UK average is ~30% at year 1.
Ford GMFV for the RS is currently set at 34% depreciation at year 2 and 48% at year 3 (based on 9k mpa).
All looks fairly healthy, doesn't it?
Of course, the real short term winners were those who got in an RS on day one and sold up after 12 months. They pretty much got a years free steer.
Still, considering the relatively high production volumes (compared to the mk2), it doesn't look like anyone will be taking a bath on their RS in the near-term (unless they're running M380 and it blows up, but that's another story...).
Looks like our coprophilic friend will have to wait a while to get one for £17k
tallpaul26 said:
What was the RRP of the RS at launch versus the current WBAC valuation for an early example?
They've on track to be, by some margin, the worst performing RS ever from a financial standpoint - about 50% loss in 3 years. People can spout vitriol diarrhoea all they like but it won't change the cold reality of the unsmiling dealer when the PCP ends at 3 years. RS owners seem to simultaneously get off on the car being 'a lot of car for the money' and 'a working class hero' whilst also smugly congratulating themselves on how expensive the car is, sneering at those in cheaper cars and lecturing how the residuals make them investment genuises. They seem to see no contradiction in holding these directly opposing viewpoints.
InhumanExcrement said:
The quintessential RS owner. Someone who actually thinks that people are looking at their Ford Focus going 'wowwwww I wish I could afford that'. It's not a supercar, it's not a high end BMW or Merc, it's a sub-£30k Focus for crying out loud. We'll see which car history looks on more favourably in the long run, the MK7 Fiesta ST or the MK3 RS. One was Top Gear's car of the year the year it came out, described by Clarkson as 'a future classic' and remains the darling of its class 4 years after release - the other has a luminous blue paint job, a drift mode and is already the subject of gale force laughter from Type R and soon to be Megane RS owners. But yeah, if it's more expensive it must be better right? Abahahahaha.
And here we have hit the nub of the issue.Jealousy is a cruel cruel mistress.
Case closed
Car-Matt said:
And here we have hit the nub of the issue.
Jealousy is a cruel cruel mistress.
Case closed
Yes because anyone who doesn't have an RS must be jealous of it. There is no other possible explanation. Presumably you walk around telling anyone who has a car they have chosen that costs less than 20k that they simply werent able to afford the supercar that is the RS.Jealousy is a cruel cruel mistress.
Case closed
Do you not see the irony in driving a 'working class hero', a car deacribed as 'a lot of car for the money' whilst sneering down your nose at other cars?
HumanDoing said:
Yes because anyone who doesn't have an RS must be jealous of it. There is no other possible explanation. Presumably you walk around telling anyone who has a car they have chosen that costs less than 20k that they simply werent able to afford the supercar that is the RS.
Do you not see the irony in driving a 'working class hero', a car deacribed as 'a lot of car for the money' whilst sneering down your nose at other cars?
I don't own one, I don't want to and I don't care what anyone else thinks of my car of choice. ( My daily is a thoroughly reliable 6 year old 320d touring )Do you not see the irony in driving a 'working class hero', a car deacribed as 'a lot of car for the money' whilst sneering down your nose at other cars?
You however felt it necessary to post up how your car is a test winner, a modern classic, best in class etc etc and then run down the RS because its not as good as your car and tell us that owners of other cars are laughing down at them.
The irony about the irony is that its you trying to exercise some reverse snobbery against something that doesn't exist
Car-Matt said:
I don't own one, I don't want to and I don't care what anyone else thinks of my car of choice. ( My daily is a thoroughly reliable 6 year old 320d touring )
You however felt it necessary to post up how your car is a test winner, a modern classic, best in class etc etc and then run down the RS because its not as good as your car and tell us that owners of other cars are laughing down at them.
The irony about the irony is that its you trying to exercise some reverse snobbery against something that doesn't exist
Complete mis-reading of my post - congratulations. I don't care about people's views on my car either. I was merely responding to the preposterous notion that criticism of the RS is invalid unless someone owns a similar or better car. An M4 owner or similar would widdle themselves silly over the notion that someone should snort down their nose at a Ford because they own ... a marginally more expensive Ford. You however felt it necessary to post up how your car is a test winner, a modern classic, best in class etc etc and then run down the RS because its not as good as your car and tell us that owners of other cars are laughing down at them.
The irony about the irony is that its you trying to exercise some reverse snobbery against something that doesn't exist
HumanDoing said:
Complete mis-reading of my post - congratulations. I don't care about people's views on my car either. I was merely responding to the preposterous notion that criticism of the RS is invalid unless someone owns a similar or better car. An M4 owner or similar would widdle themselves silly over the notion that someone should snort down their nose at a Ford because they own ... a marginally more expensive Ford.
Little clue.....inferiority complex is in your head.People are only reacting badly to your criticism of the FRS residuals because you're accusing them of buying the cars as an investment and your numbers are ludicrous.
Get over it
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