RE: New TVR Griffith - official
Discussion
Has anyone yet said, "I'm so impressed with this car that I've been straight onto the website and placed a deposit"?
https://www.tvr.co.uk/deposit.
So far as I can see we've had 74 pages so far with very little sign of money changing hands.
https://www.tvr.co.uk/deposit.
So far as I can see we've had 74 pages so far with very little sign of money changing hands.
varsas said:
StottyGTR said:
TA14 said:
StottyGTR said:
Don't know if I need a parrot here or not but that's because weight doesn't influence top speed, except from a negligible increase in rolling resistance.
Weight doesn't even increase rolling resistance for top speed. Without aerodynamic aids uplift is greater than weight so weight won't add any rolling resistance.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F76-npz0CeI
A Bugatti Chiron at 300mph would only need 50bhp to overcome rolling resistance, so a car weighing 3/4 the amount and going 2/3 the speed will only need...what 25ish bhp.
essexstu said:
Btw, the Cerbera in the famous Top Gear drag race was not standard. It was running one of Mr Wheelers race engines and some 450bhp. Standard cars were well below 400bhp.
Not sure that's true. Its been bandied about over various forums for a number of years. The chap who actually drove the Cerb on that day said it was a completely standard 4.2 Cerb, he was just lucky enough to get a very good start.I doubt anything he said though would compete with the internet rumour mill though.
New video of it moving on TVR's YouTube channel posted today. Includes a bit of a 'moment'. 
https://youtu.be/eX8s0Oc8omU
Looks like the wheels may have been painted too.
https://youtu.be/eX8s0Oc8omU
Looks like the wheels may have been painted too.
griffsomething said:
New video of it moving on TVR's YouTube channel posted today. Includes a bit of a 'moment'.
https://youtu.be/eX8s0Oc8omU
Looks like the wheels may have been painted too.
Still looks very Japanese to me.https://youtu.be/eX8s0Oc8omU
Looks like the wheels may have been painted too.
Alpinestars said:
griffsomething said:
New video of it moving on TVR's YouTube channel posted today. Includes a bit of a 'moment'.
https://youtu.be/eX8s0Oc8omU
Looks like the wheels may have been painted too.
Still looks very Japanese to me.https://youtu.be/eX8s0Oc8omU
Looks like the wheels may have been painted too.
griffsomething said:
New video of it moving on TVR's YouTube channel posted today. Includes a bit of a 'moment'.
https://youtu.be/eX8s0Oc8omU
Looks like the wheels may have been painted too.
"Car easily spins wheels in 1st gear" shocka eh! ;-)https://youtu.be/eX8s0Oc8omU
Looks like the wheels may have been painted too.
Thankyou4calling said:
You can still place a deposit on an LE car today so that doesn't bode well.
But but but someone said on a previous page that all deposit places had been taken and it was sold out...Real driver said:
I think that people have to remember that although the S series, Griffith and Chimera allowed TVR to thrive, the later models probably killed the brand.
Putting looks to the side for a moment, where can you get a 1250kg, normally aspirated 500bhp, manual, RWD car that can actually be used on the road? we aren't even talking about price.
What killed it, more than likely, was that times changed and people where no longer willing to put up with shoddy build quality and reliability issues, even if the later ones did apparently address this (though having got 'high' from a T350 after a few laps around Bedford, im not so sure).Putting looks to the side for a moment, where can you get a 1250kg, normally aspirated 500bhp, manual, RWD car that can actually be used on the road? we aren't even talking about price.
I think ill wait for the actual weighbridge wet weight than go by a manufacturers say so and as for the youtube vid, sounds abit quiet to me
StottyGTR said:
varsas said:
StottyGTR said:
TA14 said:
StottyGTR said:
Don't know if I need a parrot here or not but that's because weight doesn't influence top speed, except from a negligible increase in rolling resistance.
Weight doesn't even increase rolling resistance for top speed. Without aerodynamic aids uplift is greater than weight so weight won't add any rolling resistance.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F76-npz0CeI
A Bugatti Chiron at 300mph would only need 50bhp to overcome rolling resistance, so a car weighing 3/4 the amount and going 2/3 the speed will only need...what 25ish bhp.
TA14 said:
varsas said:
Just to put some numbers on rolling resistance, as explained in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F76-npz0CeI
A Bugatti Chiron at 300mph would only need 50bhp to overcome rolling resistance, so a car weighing 3/4 the amount and going 2/3 the speed will only need...what 25ish bhp.
He's tried to oversimplify there and made some mistakes. Net weight rather than gross weight and esp only putting in weight rather than the normal force that the equation demands so the real force cold come down to about 10bhp. For 2/3 the speed it would be about half the value due to V*V in the formula.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F76-npz0CeI
A Bugatti Chiron at 300mph would only need 50bhp to overcome rolling resistance, so a car weighing 3/4 the amount and going 2/3 the speed will only need...what 25ish bhp.
Edited by varsas on Tuesday 19th September 16:42
Edited by varsas on Tuesday 19th September 16:44
rockin said:
Has anyone yet said, "I'm so impressed with this car that I've been straight onto the website and placed a deposit"?
https://www.tvr.co.uk/deposit.
So far as I can see we've had 74 pages so far with very little sign of money changing hands.
I wouldn't worry. The demographic here is more concerned with number plate spacing and EV's. https://www.tvr.co.uk/deposit.
So far as I can see we've had 74 pages so far with very little sign of money changing hands.
yonex said:
rockin said:
Has anyone yet said, "I'm so impressed with this car that I've been straight onto the website and placed a deposit"?
https://www.tvr.co.uk/deposit.
So far as I can see we've had 74 pages so far with very little sign of money changing hands.
I wouldn't worry. The demographic here is more concerned with number plate spacing and EV's. https://www.tvr.co.uk/deposit.
So far as I can see we've had 74 pages so far with very little sign of money changing hands.
On another note, it certainly puts its power down like a TVR in that video.
lemmingjames said:
What killed it, more than likely, was that times changed and people where no longer willing to put up with shoddy build quality and reliability issues, even if the later ones did apparently address this (though having got 'high' from a T350 after a few laps around Bedford, im not so sure).
I think ill wait for the actual weighbridge wet weight than go by a manufacturers say so and as for the youtube vid, sounds abit quiet to me
That's kind of what I was meaning. The cars weren't developed properly. The Griffith and Chimera weren't paragons of reliability, but the Speed Six cars must have been absolutely horrible. Fixing those engines under warranty must have been nice too (I wouldn't have liked to be a TVR dealer then).I think ill wait for the actual weighbridge wet weight than go by a manufacturers say so and as for the youtube vid, sounds abit quiet to me
julian64 said:
Not sure that's true. Its been bandied about over various forums for a number of years. The chap who actually drove the Cerb on that day said it was a completely standard 4.2 Cerb, he was just lucky enough to get a very good start.
I doubt anything he said though would compete with the internet rumour mill though.
I have no idea of the truth, however, I really would have thought PW was the kind of chap to deliver a hooky motor just as he delivered hooky motor numbers. But then if they went to all that trouble of fitting a different engine you would have thought they would have found five minutes to remove the excess glue from the cabin and to make sure the bits that usually fell off were seriously glued in place? The fact they couldn't even be arsed to ensure the cabin of cars going to journos had been stuck together properly makes it harder to believe they would then go to the effort of rigging the engine?I doubt anything he said though would compete with the internet rumour mill though.
griffsomething said:
New video of it moving on TVR's YouTube channel posted today. Includes a bit of a 'moment'.
https://youtu.be/eX8s0Oc8omU
Looks like the wheels may have been painted too.
The wheels are different. 15s also shows you easy it is for the target audience to get out of it gracefully https://youtu.be/eX8s0Oc8omU
Looks like the wheels may have been painted too.
KTF said:
The wheels are different. 15s also shows you easy it is for the target audience to get out of it gracefully
It's a slight worry as Les is clearly a normal height gent and obviously a powfully built company director. Maybe there will be a Stanna option for the more 'non exec' company director?
But I've found that climbing out of TVRs like a lady is the only sensible option these days!
DonkeyApple said:
It's a slight worry as Les is clearly a normal height gent and obviously a powfully built company director.
Maybe there will be a Stanna option for the more 'non exec' company director?
But I've found that climbing out of TVRs like a lady is the only sensible option these days!
I'm 5ft 11 and have a picture of me standing next to Les and he makes me look small.Maybe there will be a Stanna option for the more 'non exec' company director?
But I've found that climbing out of TVRs like a lady is the only sensible option these days!
Forgot to mention I'm an Ex powerfully built company director.
Edited by TVRJAS on Tuesday 19th September 23:12
griffsomething said:
New video of it moving on TVR's YouTube channel posted today. Includes a bit of a 'moment'.
https://youtu.be/eX8s0Oc8omU
No seatbelts fitted to the prototype?https://youtu.be/eX8s0Oc8omU
julian64 said:
Not sure that's true. Its been bandied about over various forums for a number of years. The chap who actually drove the Cerb on that day said it was a completely standard 4.2 Cerb, he was just lucky enough to get a very good start.
I doubt anything he said though would compete with the internet rumour mill though.
I have it on very good authority that it is true. Being lucky enough to get a good start in a standard 4.2 Cerbera and beat all those other top cars by that margin is laughable. Everyone knows that the bhp figures TVR quoted for their cars was optimistic and Wheeler was smart enough to ensure that cars given to the press had top engines in them. I doubt anything he said though would compete with the internet rumour mill though.
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