RE: Megane Renault Sport IV - Frankfurt 2017

RE: Megane Renault Sport IV - Frankfurt 2017

Tuesday 12th September 2017

Megane Renault Sport IV - Frankfurt 2017

Four-wheel steer, 280hp and a six-speed manual (if you want) - full lowdown on Renault Sport's latest here!



Is it a Renault Megane Renault Sport, a Renault Megane RenaultSport, RenaultSport Megane or Renault Megane R.S. (note the Ford-pleasing use of full stops)? Frankly, it doesn't matter: it's a new Renault Megane Renault Sport (that's the official title), a car which must replace one of finest hot hatches of the 21st century.


From Honda Civic Type R to Ford Focus RS, via the Peugeot 308 GTI, VW Golf GTI, Hyundai i30 N and more, this is a golden era for the hot hatch buyer. But what makes this Megane Renault Sport special is that it brings yet another new angle to the hot hatch party - chiefly in the form of four-wheel steering, but also because the team behind the car has resisted being lured into a power race.

That team is lead by Patrice Ratti, formerly of the Renault F1 team back when fat slicks, big wings and 1,000hp turbos were de rigueur, and now a long time boss of Renault Sport, who sums up the former decision thus: "What became clear was that we had two choices: to make a car without four-wheel steer and to make incremental improvements in every area over what had gone before, or to make the car with it and to make a step change in terms of improvements. The benefits go across every area of the car's dynamics - we have been able to rework the dampers, diffs, steering and more." A "step change" in dynamics over the previous Megane Renault Sport? That's a statement to whet the appetite...

Those with a long memory, or a (probably guiltily secreted) love affair for Lagunas, will recall that Renault has flirted with four-wheel steering before, most recently with the Megane GT that was launched last year. The logic, say engineers, is that four-wheel steer is now greatly improved in terms of capability and cost by improvements in the electronic control of the system.


On the Megane Renault Sport it allows the rear wheels to turn up to 2.7 degrees, improving the Megane RS's turning radius at low speeds, delivering greater all-round agility and improving stability at higher speeds. In turn, the added stability allows for the use of a smaller and therefore more responsive steering ratio. It also mimics some of the role normally taken by the anti-roll bars, allowing for a different, more rear-biased chassis set-up. In short, and in the eyes of its makers at least, a virtuous circle of agility and stability is born. Fans of facts of dubious value may also like to note that the movement of the rear wheels has required the addition of small winglets on the rear wheel arches, to meet crash protection requirements.

So far, so good. But can 280hp and 288lb ft of torque, all from 1.8-litres, really cut the mustard in the face of its rivals, some of which have upwards of 20 per cent more power? That, according to Ratti, depends on what you want from your hot hatch.

"Our 0-62mph time is under six seconds - fast enough, I think," he says, without being drawn on an exact acceleration figure. "Crucially, at no point has the team sacrificed fun - which means agility - for top speed. That is never our goal and we are very happy with the results. It is a fun car, I promise."

To that end, Ratti highlights the engine's key numbers - peak power from 6,000rpm, a rev limit of 7,000rpm and peak torque from 2,400rpm - and the improvements that his team has made on the basic engine architecture that was first revealed under the bonnet of the Alpine A110. Essentially the same aluminium block, it benefits from a different, larger turbo and a new cylinder head that was developed in conjunction with the Renault Formula 1 team to a timescale that Ratti says "simply wouldn't have been possible for a road car company".


Just how agile your Megane Renault Sport will be hinges on at least three spec decisions you'll have to make. There are two chassis options - Sport or Cup - and two gearbox options - six-speed EDC or manual - plus the choice of 18- or 19-inch wheels. As you might imagine, the engineers have optimised the car's set-up along the same lines, so while you can have any combination of those options you like, the focus of attention has been on the combos of Sport/EDC/18s or Cup/manual/19s.

As you might imagine, Sport/EDC/18s is for those who want their Megane Renault Sport to have a broader bandwidth of abilities; so while it won't be ultimately as sharp on track, it will be that bit more comfortable, refined and less demanding to drive quickly. The Cup/manual/19s triumvirate, in contrast, is tuned to deliver maximum thrills for those who like to drive on the limit. And if your inner PH alarm is sounding at this point, wondering who on earth wouldn't go for the latter option, bear in mind that Renault Sport enjoys substantial sales in non-European markets including Asia, where the idea of changing gear using synchronised hand and foot movements is in nowhere near as cool as flicking steering wheel mounted paddles like those F1 drivers you watch on television. Each to their own - and thank goodness the Renault-Nissan Alliance parts bin has the right parts to offer both options, unlike for the EDC-only Clio.


The manual 'box is essentially identical to what has gone before. The larger, 245-sectioned wheels also bring with them the option of going for lighter alloys, which save 1.8kg each and improve cooling. The Cup chassis also delivers a mechanical LSD, where the Sport uses an electronic system that brakes a spinning wheel. Finally, as if your mind needs any more encouragement for which way to go, in the most aggressive of the four driving modes (comfort, normal, sport and race) the Cup car switches off all electronic aids, whereas the Sport chassis still has the electronic braking system at work, trying to maximise traction. As a happy aside, a manual handbrake is standard with both chassis.

Other points of note include the widened track (the front track is 60mm wider and the rear track 45mm than the standard Megane's), consequent blistered wheel arches, complete with air outlets, the rear spoiler and diffuser, central exhaust (the noise of which can be amplified in the cabin, if you choose) and the Volcanic Orange paintwork that may have had you blinking when you last glanced at the pictures.

Sold? We can't wait to try it, although even the most eager UK customers will have to wait until next spring to order it and next summer to have it on the driveway, for an expected asking price of just over £30,000. But there's also the prospect of yet faster models still to come, as with the Trophy and R26.R models of yesteryear. "I would never swap pleasure for speed - but an RS Trophy car will come," says Ratti. Bring it on!

 

 

   
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wab172uk

Original Poster:

2,005 posts

227 months

Tuesday 12th September 2017
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I actually really like that.

krismccloy

256 posts

149 months

Tuesday 12th September 2017
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I'm impressed with the aesthetics and the logic behind the spec. sheet. Looking forward to an on road review indeed!

Krikkit

26,527 posts

181 months

Tuesday 12th September 2017
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RS said:
"Our 0-62mph time is under six seconds - fast enough, I think," he says, without being drawn on an exact acceleration figure. "Crucially, at no point has the team sacrificed fun - which means agility - for top speed. That is never our goal and we are very happy with the results. It is a fun car, I promise."
If they really have focussed on fun it should be a very good car indeed. Ultimately once you're under 6s to 60mph I'm not sure what else you really need from a hot hatch.

IanCress

4,409 posts

166 months

Tuesday 12th September 2017
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If the following lines don't appear in the reviews for the new Megane RS, i'll eat my hat:

"The Megane has grown up"
"Much more refined"
"Lost it's dynamic edge"
"We'll wait for the cup/trophy version"
"Needs an extra 20bhp"

MrBarry123

6,027 posts

121 months

Tuesday 12th September 2017
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It has a nice bum.

I'll look forward to the proper reviews next year.

Kosy

99 posts

161 months

Tuesday 12th September 2017
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Agree with the above. Looks great and I like the extra practicality of the 5 door shell.

Hopefully it has retained its sparkle.

Vocht

1,631 posts

164 months

Tuesday 12th September 2017
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I'm sure it'll be a great drive but at that price point it'll struggle imo. That interior just looks too plasticy and cheap for a £30k car.

hondansx

4,569 posts

225 months

Tuesday 12th September 2017
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It looks weird from the front. I think it sounds great, but I have to be able to look back at a car and long for it! Shame, as the rear looks great.

D7Cup

123 posts

133 months

Tuesday 12th September 2017
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I like that. Weight?

culpz

4,882 posts

112 months

Tuesday 12th September 2017
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I think the styling on this final version does look a bit fussy in places. However, i do think it looks great on the whole. I honestly wasn't expecting a 1.8 litre engine though and i just assumed it would be a 2.0. It'll be interesting to see how it compares to the old unit.

I'd like to see how many will go for the manual gearbox option. For me, it'd probably be the EDC. I quite liked it in the Clio and i reckon it'll suit this Megane more but it all depends how it will work with that new engine. 280bhp is probably about right but it's obviously not a huge leap from the 275. The Megane has never been about pure power and straight line speed though.

It looks set to be a cracker!

culpz

4,882 posts

112 months

Tuesday 12th September 2017
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anonymous said:
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If you read the full article, it appears that it won't be offered. The car featured is Volcanic Orange, which replaces Liquid Yellow.

framerateuk

2,732 posts

184 months

Tuesday 12th September 2017
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Looks great! I think I'll hold off for the Trophy since I've got a Clio Trophy at the moment and that would be a bigger upgrade.

I'm going to have trouble picking EDC or manual though. Brain says one, heart the other....

IanJ9375

1,468 posts

216 months

Tuesday 12th September 2017
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Like it more than I thought I would, look forward to seeing it in the flesh

GibsonSG

276 posts

111 months

Tuesday 12th September 2017
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Looks nice, but I will miss the old three door shape. My 275 Cup S isn't classically attractive from some angle but it's a distinctive car. Plus I can wave my near-empty nester flag high with two three door cars and one two seater!!!

I do like the focus on fun rather than the power race, I look forward to the reviews and group tests.

MustardCutter

238 posts

120 months

Tuesday 12th September 2017
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I find the looks a bit challenging but love the orange paint. Renault should be commended for chasing fun rather than playing top trumps and 280bhp is more than adequate on the road. Let's hope it's better received than the Clio...

Quickmoose

4,490 posts

123 months

Tuesday 12th September 2017
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Yep, new hot hatch king there I reckon.
I see the fad for crappy black alloys has moved on the overly fussy mixed finish instead. frown

I'd like some simpler multi-poke 'rally' style jobs and some stupid mad stickers on it please....

The current Megane in it's most basic form is good design imo.

Norbury90

6,897 posts

206 months

Tuesday 12th September 2017
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No liquid yellow option?

Yipper

5,964 posts

90 months

Tuesday 12th September 2017
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This is basically a 911R for poor people.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 12th September 2017
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It's going to be all about the drive. If it's light enough and actually manages to be genuinely fun rather than just brutally effective they'll have a winner on their hands.

KPB1973

918 posts

99 months

Tuesday 12th September 2017
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Bit of an odd launch strategy.

Underwhelming power figure vs its rivals (perhaps enforced by what the new 1.8 is reliably capable of), plus a virtual confession that a better version is coming along.

Surely RS' more hardcore supporters, myself included, will just wait for the Trophy?

No pics of the seats nor reference to recaro upgrades either.