Bought used car, developed fault 1 day after. My options?

Bought used car, developed fault 1 day after. My options?

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berlintaxi

8,535 posts

173 months

Friday 22nd September 2017
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daemon said:
northwest monkey said:
Integroo said:
jkay1 said:
Do I give them another chance to fix it? I can’t afford for it to go to court and take ages.
Leave the car on his doorstep with the keys, end him a letter before action saying he has seven days to refund or you are issuing a claim, if he doesn't, issue a money claim online (https://www.moneyclaim.gov.uk/web/mcol/welcome) for £50.

Don't let cowboys bully you.
And presumably you sit back and wait for the cheque in the next day's post?

I'm going to make a wild guess here and say you've never been through this process have you?
Indeed. Its the nuclear option if you do that. It could take months if not years to sort out and the dealer knows that.
Not unheard of if the dealer is a limited company and dodgy that he will simply close the business and start afresh the next day rather than pay out.

Trailhead

2,628 posts

147 months

Friday 22nd September 2017
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OP have you established from the previous owner whether the fault was present during their ownership?


jkay1

Original Poster:

13 posts

94 months

Friday 22nd September 2017
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Trailhead said:
OP have you established from the previous owner whether the fault was present during their ownership?
Yep contacted him via WhatsApp. he read it and blocked me on WhatsApp so he’s obviously not interested in telling anything.

As someone already suggested maybe the best action for this situation is for me to sell the car as is, at a loss to a trader. That way I’ll be put out of this stressful situation.




jkay1

Original Poster:

13 posts

94 months

Friday 22nd September 2017
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BTW, the car in question cost me £6500

ZX10R NIN

27,577 posts

125 months

Friday 22nd September 2017
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Sorry to hear the dealer is being an arse, try to see if you can take another car instead seeing as he's not going to refund you (it may not be one you want but it'll be easier to move on) or get it repaired & drive it to another dealer part ex it for another.


daemon

35,795 posts

197 months

Friday 22nd September 2017
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jkay1 said:
Trailhead said:
OP have you established from the previous owner whether the fault was present during their ownership?
Yep contacted him via WhatsApp. he read it and blocked me on WhatsApp so he’s obviously not interested in telling anything.

As someone already suggested maybe the best action for this situation is for me to sell the car as is, at a loss to a trader. That way I’ll be put out of this stressful situation.



Rather than blow your brains out with a massive loss, i'd be pushing the supplying dealer for a repair. At least then you have a fully working car to sell on

northwest monkey

6,370 posts

189 months

Friday 22nd September 2017
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daemon said:
jkay1 said:
Trailhead said:
OP have you established from the previous owner whether the fault was present during their ownership?
Yep contacted him via WhatsApp. he read it and blocked me on WhatsApp so he’s obviously not interested in telling anything.

As someone already suggested maybe the best action for this situation is for me to sell the car as is, at a loss to a trader. That way I’ll be put out of this stressful situation.



Rather than blow your brains out with a massive loss, i'd be pushing the supplying dealer for a repair. At least then you have a fully working car to sell on
The problem is, the repair on this car will involve either a replacement engine or a substantial rebuild. To find the fault involves stripping the engine down before the repair can even take place. There are 3 potential areas it could be - and it could be all 3.

The dealer will know this and that's why they aren't interested.

I really do feel for you OP - it's a horrible situation to be in & it's incredibly stressful.

Honestly, if you need any help then just ask. If it's copies of letters you can use then it's no problem. The best thing I did regarding the car was getting rid of it - it was like a weight off my mind.

What's the current situation now with your dealer?

daemon

35,795 posts

197 months

Friday 22nd September 2017
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northwest monkey said:
The problem is, the repair on this car will involve either a replacement engine or a substantial rebuild. To find the fault involves stripping the engine down before the repair can even take place. There are 3 potential areas it could be - and it could be all 3.

The dealer will know this and that's why they aren't interested.

I really do feel for you OP - it's a horrible situation to be in & it's incredibly stressful.

Honestly, if you need any help then just ask. If it's copies of letters you can use then it's no problem. The best thing I did regarding the car was getting rid of it - it was like a weight off my mind.

What's the current situation now with your dealer?
They arent interested in refunding, but they said they would repair

jkay1 said:
He said he will try fix the problem again and then take it from there.

northwest monkey

6,370 posts

189 months

Friday 22nd September 2017
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daemon said:
northwest monkey said:
The problem is, the repair on this car will involve either a replacement engine or a substantial rebuild. To find the fault involves stripping the engine down before the repair can even take place. There are 3 potential areas it could be - and it could be all 3.

The dealer will know this and that's why they aren't interested.

I really do feel for you OP - it's a horrible situation to be in & it's incredibly stressful.

Honestly, if you need any help then just ask. If it's copies of letters you can use then it's no problem. The best thing I did regarding the car was getting rid of it - it was like a weight off my mind.

What's the current situation now with your dealer?
They arent interested in refunding, but they said they would repair

jkay1 said:
He said he will try fix the problem again and then take it from there.
OP doesn't realistically have much choice then.

Knowing what the fault could possible be though, I'd be very, very wary of a repair...

Shore

412 posts

88 months

Saturday 23rd September 2017
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If the previous owner blocked you then there is good reason to believe that he has traded the car in due to this fault. £6500 is quite a good price for the car so what you should do is either take it to WBAC or sell to a trader. The problem is a trader might get suspicious that you have only just bought the car and want to sell it.

What I would do is get the supplying trader to sort out the issue and then when the car is running well take it round a few dealers and sell it on. Perhaps even approaching Arnold Clark and selling it to them.

MuscleSaloon

1,548 posts

175 months

Saturday 23rd September 2017
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Agent XXX said:
"I purchased a bmw"

There's your first problem.

Just burn it.
A bit harsh .. but they have turned out some proper junk in the last 10 years or so, both petrol and Diesel.


nct001

733 posts

133 months

Saturday 23rd September 2017
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jkay1 said:
Well just been to the garage and he’s saying he will not be refunding and that I can quote all the legislations I want till I’m blue in the face, he has very deep pockets and will take very long for me to get money back.

He said he will try fix the problem again and then take it from there. Will give me nothing in writing about this also

What the heck do I do now?
Firstly - contact RAC explain the situation, as he is an RAC Approved Dealer he has to act within certain rules.

At the very least he will be banned from being an RAC Dealer and you should make him aware of this.

You'll probably find he's bought it from UK car group or webuyanycar anyway so that's why last keeper won't comment.

I really didn't want to get involved with fixing the car I'd offer the car back to the dealer for £5k... take a loss of £1500 and get on with the rest of my life.

Life is far too short to mess about taking small traders or ltd co to county court.

Yes I here people saying it's the principal if the matter... but as my dad would say

As far as I'm concerned Principals is a lady's clothes shop and even that went bankrupt.

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 23rd September 2017
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This sounds scarily similar to me, I purchased a car from Spire/Barons and this happened to me in a week so I gave it back.
Was the reg WP10 V**?
BMW 320i touring

daemon

35,795 posts

197 months

Saturday 23rd September 2017
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northwest monkey said:
OP doesn't realistically have much choice then.

Knowing what the fault could possible be though, I'd be very, very wary of a repair...
Well the choices are either press the nuclear button and go for a full on rejection and commit the next year of his life to hopefully getting his money back OR hoping the seller fixes it. Neither hold much appeal frown

The dealer does sound like a though

helix402

7,858 posts

182 months

Saturday 23rd September 2017
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It’s a 318.

JimmyConwayNW

3,062 posts

125 months

Saturday 23rd September 2017
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I stopped selling this model of car.

I run a used car business and we spent about 2k plus getting the engine rebuilt having thrown loads of sensors at one of these cars and it was just never right.

Had the same issue again on another. Cut my losses and just got rid via auction.

Nothing but trouble and stay away from the 4 cylinder models.

Its not technically the dealers fault the issue is present however his attitude sounds appalling. I worked with my customers to get the issues sorted and offered refund or repair, kept them updated and tried my best.

Just buy a 330i petrol next time as the extra mpg they use will be cancelled out in far lower repair bills.

All the best.

Graeme123

157 posts

79 months

Saturday 23rd September 2017
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I got screwed similar to this a few years ago, it's used car sales people like this who give them all a bad reputation.

I would never buy from a used car garage again as when things go wrong it's not worth the stress

Good luck, and hopefully it gets sorted for you quickly